Info with BioDiesle Mass & Sweet Tooth under LED

tsmith8

Member
These are my plants off of my first grow. I am using LED lights and believe one is ready for switch to 12/12 with the flower cycle lighting. The sweet Tooth, something went wrong it is a stub of a plant. Any opinions???


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tsmith8

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Yes it is. I have been running it under 24 hour light and can switch my LED to the flowering setting. Do I leave it on 24hour when I do that??
Not a lot of information for LED and autoflower. I don't have alot of experiece either.
 

profcornish

Member
As it's an autoflower there's no need to change the light cycle to 12/12 & trick it into flowering, changing the light cycle will will only decrease yield dramatically. You're better off keeping it on a 18/6 to give it some rest for root structure and nute uptake or 24/0 for more groath and higher yeilds. I've done a biodesial mass grow and it's a lovely plant, with a pungent smell with a very nice stone, I hope your grow goes well!
 

tsmith8

Member
Hight 29" on the BioDiesle. Generic soil. Have not tested PH levels. Miracle grow veg nutrients up until last week.

When I started this I figured I would play around with the lights and plants. Figure some of that out and go into specific nutrients and PH in water for the second grow. I am on a well and am using water pre water softner.
 

tsmith8

Member
As it's an autoflower there's no need to change the light cycle to 12/12 & trick it into flowering, changing the light cycle will will only decrease yield dramatically. You're better off keeping it on a 18/6 to give it some rest for root structure and nute uptake or 24/0 for more groath and higher yeilds. I've done a biodesial mass grow and it's a lovely plant, with a pungent smell with a very nice stone, I hope your grow goes well!

What was your timeline with the BioDiesle? was that an LED grow?
 

foreverflyhi

Well-Known Member
Miracle grow is your problem.
Take pictures without your led on so we can look at the leaves.
i guarnetee miracle grow is your problem.
give it good water and see what happens.


Edit: LEDs off not on
 

profcornish

Member
Not sure as I didn't take time into account, though to guess about two months - three weeks in 125w CFL then the rest on a 600w HPS, it came out about 16-20" though the budsites where close. Has your plant stretched? I can imagine due to low light penetration on an LED the plant might stretch?
 

profcornish

Member
Miracle grow is your problem.
Take pictures without your led on so we can look at the leaves.
i guarnetee miracle grow is your problem.
give it good water and see what happens.
Mirical grow nutes are fine, theres such a controversial veiw on them it's insane. Personally wouldn't use them again as they're too hot, but for beginners they can do the job at half the strength.
 

tsmith8

Member
I can stop miracle grow no problem. Is there a nutrient that anyone reccomends for future gorws? Veg and flower stage?

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I don't know how to determine if it stretches. It has been a steady grow with branches at equal distances up the stalk.
 

foreverflyhi

Well-Known Member
Mirical grow nutes are fine, theres such a controversial veiw on them it's insane. Personally wouldn't use them again as they're too hot, but for beginners they can do the job at half the strength.

Sorry man but your wrong on this one.

His plant is obviously having nute problems not light problems.

Miracle grow is concentrated sythetics that no one should use let alone a beginner.

From experience most auto flowers require little nutes. Keep it simple

Just by looking at your plant without LEDs they look dark green with a claw look. Nute problem
Check here

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=231387

I suggesest use something simple like roots. Keep it organic grow dank
 

tsmith8

Member
What other nutrients should I use/order?

Am I right to say the BioDiesel is flower because of the white hairs and I should switch my LED to the flowering light stage?
 

Canna Connoiseur

Active Member
These are my plants off of my first grow. I am using LED lights and believe one is ready for switch to 12/12 with the flower cycle lighting. The sweet Tooth, something went wrong it is a stub of a plant. Any opinions???
You are probably root bound. Your pots look like they are one gallon or less. They cannot grow big if roots cannot get big.
 

foreverflyhi

Well-Known Member
What other nutrients should I use/order?

Am I right to say the BioDiesel is flower because of the white hairs and I should switch my LED to the flowering light stage?
Also look into AACT. That's always fun
Concentrate on your soil not your water nutrient.
and she's showing her sex so yes she's flowering, sometimes autos can be a bit trick to figure out.
switch back to 24/7 led on. I'd take canna connoisseur advise, however might be too late too transplant, especially when they are flowering.
 

profcornish

Member
Sorry man but your wrong on this one.

His plant is obviously having nute problems not light problems.

Miracle grow is concentrated sythetics that no one should use let alone a beginner.

From experience most auto flowers require little nutes. Keep it simple

Just by looking at your plant without LEDs they look dark green with a claw look. Nute problem
Check here

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=231387

I suggesest use something simple like roots. Keep it organic grow dank
I suggest not stating someones wrong when you're not entirely sure what they're stating, I'm saying mirical grow can work fine in general at half the strenght, not that his problems are nutes :) As I said it's a very controversial issue
 

profcornish

Member
What other nutrients should I use/order?

Am I right to say the BioDiesel is flower because of the white hairs and I should switch my LED to the flowering light stage?
You're indeed right, though when it comes to nutes that's something you've got to experiment out yourself, some like dutch pro, some like fox farm, others like advanced nutrience, it's all a matter of opinion and experience :)
 

mamakush

Active Member
Always, always test pH and ppm. Most common problem I see is people burning young plants with overly concentrated nutrient solutions.
 
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