injunction/court case updates
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VIANARCHRIS
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Conroy repeated several times that patients have the right to grow or have someone grow for them. Any speculation that DG's will be banned is simply bullshit. The charter doesn't say only physically able patients have a right to affordable meds., that right applies to all.
Dg's and plant counts are not going anywhere. There's no justification to cutting plant counts and like it's already been mentioned patients who need dg's usually have no other options to obtain their meds affordably. The mmpr is dead the mmar is dead. In 6 months everyone will be on a even playing field no one held in higher esteem then anyone else. I think we will even see some of the stupid arbitrary rules like dg's only being allowed to grow for 2 patients going away. The courts were clear AGAIN we have the right to treat our medical needs with mj. No one can stop us. We have the right to self produce or designate someone to grow for us. The liberals cant change any of this.
nohibition
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I think there will be a cap on how many patients a DG can grow for. If they don't every *professional patient* and hypochondriac will be lining to get a script which they can then take to their buddy who could say he/she has 35 patients and has to grow 400 plants in his barn. All headed for the streets. One way or the other I think they will give serious consideration to DGs. The LPs will freak if they don't and they have corporate $$$ behind them.
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spider9
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this whole thing about DG's going away seems to have started with Johnny sunsets link he posted but if you look at it. it was done by a LP consulting firm that holds no weight with me he is just trying to give the LP's some hope because if they give up then he has no work. it is all crap nowhere does it say DG's are going away
ricky1lung
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They could rewrite dg rules so only lp type facilities are able to produce meds for patients as a dg.
Watch for it, that's the only way they can keep lp's happy until rec is legal.
I bet the rec lobby just got louder and is having cash tossed at it from every direction now so there is a quick change in law.
Watch for it, that's the only way they can keep lp's happy until rec is legal.
I bet the rec lobby just got louder and is having cash tossed at it from every direction now so there is a quick change in law.
nohibition
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I agree, but they will have to address the issue of potential abuse and close any doors to the crooks. The decision is three hundred pages long so until the Conroy Crew sifts through it we don't know everything. I posted on TY many times that "the Jolly Green Giant doesn't care about granny's vegetable garden" and this should be pretty much the same. After the dust settles and the newbies realise how much work is involved in growing they will pull out their plastic and go to a dispensary or liquor store or where ever and there will be a lot of lightly used equiptment on Kijiji and e-Bay
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VIANARCHRIS
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LP's are not able to provide a specific strain for individual patient needs, nor are they affordable. I think there will be other options...at least I hope there will for those that need it.
CalyxCrusher
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That would be no different then the MMPR then would it? Doubtful that will happen. In regards to LP DGs
ricky1lung
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It's my assumption because people will be allowed to grow their own so access is there.
The hitch is keeping lp's satisfied during the forced changes and decreased revenue. There will be some who go under because of this.
I'm speculating, but it's easy to assume new dg rules could force people who choose a dg to use an lp type who is federally licensed to "guarantee" the "quality" and "safety" of meds. (That's how it would be packaged and sold to the general public).
It will help lp's get through until rec is legal. Which, still has no timeframe. I'm sure this ruling will speed up the process because friends of the party have much to lose if rec doesn't come quick.
The hitch is keeping lp's satisfied during the forced changes and decreased revenue. There will be some who go under because of this.
I'm speculating, but it's easy to assume new dg rules could force people who choose a dg to use an lp type who is federally licensed to "guarantee" the "quality" and "safety" of meds. (That's how it would be packaged and sold to the general public).
It will help lp's get through until rec is legal. Which, still has no timeframe. I'm sure this ruling will speed up the process because friends of the party have much to lose if rec doesn't come quick.
CalyxCrusher
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The decision only concerns them in the grand scheme of things. It doesnt ensure that they stay satisfied until things are worked out. Its called capitalism
ricky1lung
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I agree. That's why I believe all lp's will be throwing loads of cash at the rec lobby.
Even guaranteeing dg grows won't be enough for lp's so they need rec to keep the lights on.
This decision has completely wiped the board clean and there is too much at stake to prolong legalization.
Too many players, too much money.
nohibition
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If they force people to go with an LP the provider would have to make it affordable which would impact their bottom line dramatically, then the LPs would be screaming for legal rec to bring up the numbers so maybe it will serve to speed the a libs up a bit. So imho they can't force patients to go to the LPs if it's too costly. They may also require patients to show proof of financial hardship in order to grow their own or have a DG...who knows. Have to wait for the small print.
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CalyxCrusher
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True but the liberals have said legalization is years away. So basically too bad so sad for them. They get to eat some humble pie after thinking theyd corner the market. Now they can sit and wait unhappily as we smile at their misfortune
Much like the position patients have been in since the MMPRs inception. Theres literally nothing they can do but wait for legalization. Oh how the tables have turned
Much like the position patients have been in since the MMPRs inception. Theres literally nothing they can do but wait for legalization. Oh how the tables have turned
ricky1lung
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I don't think it will be too far off now.
They need the new stream of tax revenues badly to offset spending.
Their buddies need to protect their investments and crop out in a rec market or lose it all.
I don't think rec will be too far off now.
nohibition
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You can be sure the sleazebag money whores are gathered behind closed doors today 
ricky1lung
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Not for those who choose a dg, it won't.
By allowing home grows they allow access, by providing lp's as dg's they provide alternate sources.
I'm not saying it's good for people who need dg's, just speculating how they could create rules to support their buddies while rec is worked out and they have a larger market to supply.
nsbudca
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Seriously, this will cause confusion and I bet a few of us will still see a court room. Once rec is legal, I kind of feel like that will protect patients in a way. There will be no more "hmm is this good enough proof of authorization to possess?" It will be common public knowledge that mj is legal. No grey area.
And LPs are definitely going to be in hot water until rec is legal. If everyone one of their clients are allowed to grow, they're going to take a large hit.
I've been wondering if LPs will begin to sell clones or seeds? It would be a way for them to compensate for losing sales in the bud and oil department. Though I'm honestly not interested in run of the mill genetics if I'm going to grow. Some might be.
And LPs are definitely going to be in hot water until rec is legal. If everyone one of their clients are allowed to grow, they're going to take a large hit.
I've been wondering if LPs will begin to sell clones or seeds? It would be a way for them to compensate for losing sales in the bud and oil department. Though I'm honestly not interested in run of the mill genetics if I'm going to grow. Some might be.
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