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doingdishes

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@ricky1lung the DG model you have proposed takes away my right to choice. if i don't want to support a LP, i wouldn't get anything.
having a DG even grow in their own home should be the patients choice like it was before. who is the Government to force me into something i don't want. we just won our right to have choice.
if they restrict DG's to only LP type model, i would be filing a motion the next day to get my choice back
 

doingdishes

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I keep bringing it up because no one is willing or able to see what could happen and how all players from med patients to lp's have to be considered.

They can regulate mom and pop dg's out of the equation under the guise of safety and quality assurance from licenced producers and still be following the ruling.

They don't have to allow anyone to be a dg, thy simply have to allow dg's and can regulate the crap out of them.

To think otherwise is extremely shortsighted.
they can't take away DG's.
they way i hear you is if you are too sick, you can't chose where you get your meds...well you could chose from a list but if you aren't THAT sick, you can do it in your own home. that's not fair and there would be another challenge
 

ricky1lung

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@ricky1lung the DG model you have proposed takes away my right to choice. if i don't want to support a LP, i wouldn't get anything.
having a DG even grow in their own home should be the patients choice like it was before. who is the Government to force me into something i don't want. we just won our right to have choice.
if they restrict DG's to only LP type model, i would be filing a motion the next day to get my choice back

It's a possible scenario. I was clear in saying I was speculating but the possibility is very real. If no one talks about it, no one prepares.

Side note: he's not a big guy. He thinks he is, but, he's still a little guy with an attitude and a mouth to some guys.
 

doingdishes

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It's a possible scenario. I was clear in saying I was speculating but the possibility is very real. If no one talks about it, no one prepares.

Side note: he's not a big guy. He thinks he is, but, he's still a little guy with an attitude and a mouth to some guys.
i don't think it is a possibility. that takes away choice and there will be another fight

what do you consider big? over 6 ft and 200+ lbs...i consider that big and he fits the bill
 

ricky1lung

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i don't think it is a possibility. that takes away choice and there will be another fight

what do you consider big? over 6 ft and 200+ lbs...i consider that big and he fits the bill

It takes away the ability to choose just anyone. They can do it and get away with it by legislating that only licenced producers could be deemed dg's.

I'm not saying it's fair or ideal, just that it's possible and people should be talking about the possibility of the next round of rules.

Over 6ft and 200lbs is Standard stock where I come from. No, I don't consider that big at all.
 
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itsmehigh

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Seems to me that a lot of you haven't read the entire decision, and are just wasting your time speculating and arguing about here say. HC will base the new MMPR from the decision. From what I read Canada is way over prescribed cannabis compared to countries who have done actual scientific research and are considered in the forefront of medical marijuana. Cost has nothing to do with it, it comes down to reasonable access. Bottom line to me was that Canadians are protected under the charter to grow their own cannabis for personal consumption. The wording has been changed from Designated grower to caregiver, and that changes things in my opinion. Define caregiver? I think the new system will be a lot of hoops for anybody to get a ppl, they aren't just going to let patients do what ever they want, there will be restrictions. As long as they allow reasonable access for patients it will satisfy the courts.

Itsme.
 

ricky1lung

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Seems to me that a lot of you haven't read the entire decision, and are just wasting your time speculating and arguing about here say. HC will base the new MMPR from the decision. From what I read Canada is way over prescribed cannabis compared to countries who have done actual scientific research and are considered in the forefront of medical marijuana. Cost has nothing to do with it, it comes down to reasonable access. Bottom line to me was that Canadians are protected under the charter to grow their own cannabis for personal consumption. The wording has been changed from Designated grower to caregiver, and that changes things in my opinion. Define caregiver? I think the new system will be a lot of hoops for anybody to get a ppl, they aren't just going to let patients do what ever they want, there will be restrictions. As long as they allow reasonable access for patients it will satisfy the courts.

Itsme.

Reasonable access = ability to self produce and allowing someone else to produce if the patient cannot.

Reasonable access to "medication" does not mean any Tom dick and Harry can grow "medicine".

The gov could set restrictions on who can become a dg and grow approved "medicine" and provide a list to patients as to who has been approved to grow.

They can do it. They just might to protect their buddies who are heavily invested in the current lp model.

It's all still reasonable access and would be very difficult to challenge in court.
 

itsmehigh

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the key words are "reasonable". It was outlined in the decision, and the new MMPR will be a result of the findings in the decision. It seems pretty clear to me what's going to happen, it's spelled out in the decision.if there are 300 LP's there will be no need for "DG's" and patients will be allowed to produce for their personal needs, step out of that frame work and sell your meds. And there will be consequences. With 300 LP's there's a pretty good chance there will be several quality producers, the shitty ones will be left in the dust and fold. Storefronts must be included in the new regs. That's important for reasonable access, I foresee cc/disp. Needing to buy from a licensed producer, no more BM/grey market in theses store fronts, it will be regulated where the product comes from.

Itsme.
 

gb123

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I agree that we should all be left to do as we please. Unfortunately the nature of government is to get into their citizens business.

Inspections could be done my municipalities with proof being sent into health Canada. I hope I'm wrong as I'd rather not any taxpayer money be spent on this but I do think it's a possibility.
inspections??...health canada...? why???
it's already been proven to be done safely at home, in a court of law..
a few lights and some plants..tomatoes..cucs..beans...what have you...all ready for the outdoors come spring!!!
nothing left to be said!
 

redi jedi

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the key words are "reasonable". It was outlined in the decision, and the new MMPR will be a result of the findings in the decision. It seems pretty clear to me what's going to happen, it's spelled out in the decision.if there are 300 LP's there will be no need for "DG's" and patients will be allowed to produce for their personal needs, step out of that frame work and sell your meds. And there will be consequences. With 300 LP's there's a pretty good chance there will be several quality producers, the shitty ones will be left in the dust and fold.

Itsme.
LP's in regard to medical are done...They're waiting to jump on the rec wagon. Tweeds probably planning to buy them out as we speak.
 

itsmehigh

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LP's in regard to medical are done...They're waiting to jump on the rec wagon. Tweeds probably planning to buy them out as we speak.
I disagree, that's on the likes as saying that lab bats is done because of home brewing. I think that licences produces have a place in the system, many people will choose to buy over produce. I agree that the current "market" is a farce but with more competition it could work.

Itsme
 
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