instead of buying a C02 gen, i hear theres a way to make C02 yourself
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mad dog bark
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so how do u make a homemade co2 kit and wot measurement for water yeast and sugar wood u do?????
bamfrivet
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you add sugar, water and yeast together in a bottle or a cup. water activates the yeast, the yeast eat the sugar and in return burp out c02.
you can do it this way and add a very small amount of c02 to your area, but unless you were decent in chemistry you won't be able to control how much c02 your getting or how long it's giving off c02. Even then, it's only really going to help out in an area that is enclosed and doesn't have a lot of air exchanging out of it.
you can do it this way and add a very small amount of c02 to your area, but unless you were decent in chemistry you won't be able to control how much c02 your getting or how long it's giving off c02. Even then, it's only really going to help out in an area that is enclosed and doesn't have a lot of air exchanging out of it.
Gastanker
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http://www.hydrofarm.com/articles/co2_enrichment.php
Read that article first. And then this blurb from another thread:
Read that article first. And then this blurb from another thread:
yea i was just going to mix it in a 5 gal bucket, put a lid on it and seal it, drill a half inch hole or so in the top and put a t fittig so it eases out. i have mr room in the garage, its a single car garage with a room made into it, about half the garage is being used, but theres a tent in the room also, in veg'n in the tent and flowring in the rest. when you say C02 is heavy, what will happen, itll just sink to the bottom of the room. i was just gonna put it in the center of my stash and let it seep out through the t fittings....good or bad idea? any suggestions?
why do you say that? i would think the $10 spent here as apposed to what $150 0r more on a generator. i suppose i could just go get a C02 tank and a small regulator or something? what kind of time should i run the c02, minutes in the hour, non stop still the sugar runs out....?
stumps
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well that $10 is weekly or more. you have to stir or mix 3-4 times a day. As the stuff ferments it starts to smell sour. try a 2l bottle put a balloon on top poke a small hole in it watch how long it works. It's just not worth the trouble. Also if you can't afford to set up a good co2 system chances are you wont get much benefit form co2 in the first place.So all and all a waste of time and money.
co2 is heavier then air so it tends to settle to the lowest point. But not much worry producing co2 by fermenting sugar and yeast.
co2 is heavier then air so it tends to settle to the lowest point. But not much worry producing co2 by fermenting sugar and yeast.
well im on my first grow, ive got about 10 plants flowering and a few more veg'n. was just trying to increase my yield
Hydrotech364
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Just a little info.Depending on the size of the grow just you being in the room is enough CO2 for you're Ladies and CO2 Displaces Oxygen O2 that is why it is used to extinguish Fires.It can kill you in just a few minutes.Don't go pushing the envelope fellas would hate for someone to die trying to max out weight.
resinousflowers
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you can actually buy co2 tablets.
Hydrotech364
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Dry Ice is also a good source,Solid CO2.
stumps
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you would have to have on hell of a sealed room to get enough co2 to hurt much. Just one fan would move enough air to move that amount of co2. Don't get me wrong I hate that anyone would use or keep co2 in a sealed room in a home. It really can mess you up fast. I watched a guy go down two steps into a room where co2 cylinders were draining.
bigv1976
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I dont think it is a pain in the ass at all. I do my mix in a 5 gallon bucket. I put an airstone in it from a little air pump to keep it active and I change it out every 2 weeks. According to my Co2 moniter it brings my room to 1000 ppm which is a substantial increase from the ambient 600ppm. All for 10 minutes of my time and $5 every 2 weeks. I guess it all boils down to are you willing to work a little to produce good buds or do you expect the girls to grow themselves. To each his own I guess.
Hydrotech364
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Almost everything has a warning label.I have yet to see this warning on any CO2 post.That is my job.....
stumps
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your right. to each his own. At 600 ppm your about 200 ppm over the normal co2 level in ambient air. As far as changing every two weeks. not 100% sure. But the byproduct of yeast and sugar is alcohol and alcohol kills the yeast. What mix of sugar to yeast do you use. I've never seen the yeast live more then 3-4 days. I would like to try what your doing before I call 100% bull shit.
stumps
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If you never read this in any post. you haven't read any of my co2 posts. try reading the msds on co2. Just for you, dry ice is a source not a good source of co2. dry ice is solid co2 and it takes a lot of compressed co2 to make dry ice. I think it's like 5 to 1. cost co2 is around .28 per pound and dry ice is around 1.00 per pound. Do the math. one more fyi for you. co2 turns soil or to dry ice at around 72 psi.
Jogro
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Generating CO2 is easy. I do it all the time merely by breathing.
With respect to enriching the CO2 in your grow room, there multiple issues with doing so.
First of all, CO2 is heavier than air and will sink to the bottom of your grow area. Not a huge deal. . .you can just disperse it upwards with a fan. . .but if you don't do that, you're simply wasting it.
Next, if you're ventilating your grow room as most people do, you'll probably be blowing out the CO2 faster than you'll be creating it. If you want to enrich your CO2, you'll have to recirculate air, or at least be absolutely meticulous about ventilation intake/output. C02 enrichment is only going to add something in a low-ventilation grow environment.
Adding more CO2 only helps to the extent that the lack thereof is a limiting factor in growing, and that's generally only going to be the case if you're pushing more light than normal.
While I don't doubt that on paper CO2 enrichment can improve yields a little bit, to me that's one of the last things to try, after you've optimized just about every other parameter including lighting, nutrients, strain, grow technique, etc. Tweaking those things is probably going to help more than trying to enrich carbon dioxide.
Lastly, if you're going to go the (IMO ridiculous) route of trying to supplement CO2 by simple yeast fermentation, then I'd suggest skipping the sugar bucket and instead put an active beer fermenter in your grow room. At least that way instead of having to throw away nasty bubbling sugar water every couple of days, you'll at least be making some tasty brew to enjoy!
With respect to enriching the CO2 in your grow room, there multiple issues with doing so.
First of all, CO2 is heavier than air and will sink to the bottom of your grow area. Not a huge deal. . .you can just disperse it upwards with a fan. . .but if you don't do that, you're simply wasting it.
Next, if you're ventilating your grow room as most people do, you'll probably be blowing out the CO2 faster than you'll be creating it. If you want to enrich your CO2, you'll have to recirculate air, or at least be absolutely meticulous about ventilation intake/output. C02 enrichment is only going to add something in a low-ventilation grow environment.
Adding more CO2 only helps to the extent that the lack thereof is a limiting factor in growing, and that's generally only going to be the case if you're pushing more light than normal.
While I don't doubt that on paper CO2 enrichment can improve yields a little bit, to me that's one of the last things to try, after you've optimized just about every other parameter including lighting, nutrients, strain, grow technique, etc. Tweaking those things is probably going to help more than trying to enrich carbon dioxide.
Lastly, if you're going to go the (IMO ridiculous) route of trying to supplement CO2 by simple yeast fermentation, then I'd suggest skipping the sugar bucket and instead put an active beer fermenter in your grow room. At least that way instead of having to throw away nasty bubbling sugar water every couple of days, you'll at least be making some tasty brew to enjoy!