I have but haven't seen the hate...rather the opposite......
Interested in micro growing?
- Thread starter itsmehigh
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itsmehigh
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Your kidding right? You have been one of the biggest assholes to me on this site.
Itsme.
TrainingPineapples
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He's an equal opportunity asshole lol
Don't let the haters discourage you, having an LP that is patient focused is what is needed and I for one am glad to know that finally there's one on it's way
I especially like the idea of an education center .... Definitely paying attention to this
Gquebed
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Hmmmm....
Where in BC?
Whats the time frame? Or... how soon do you need guys? (Im in Edmonton, but AB has gone bust. Again. So... selling my house after Christmas and looking for a new home... and job... even if i have to buy one.
Will this be under the "craft growers" thing? I read the biggezt problem that craft growers are having is finding correctly zoned space. It seems municipalities are way behind on this... and so a lot of applications are waiting for approval on site locations before they can even submit their LP apps to HC.
Gquebed
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Okay.
I
My previous post was before i read the whole thread...lol
Anyway, late 2019 works for me. So... ima very innerested.
So... what are you wanting from the growers you choose in terms of cash up front?
Farmer.J
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Also in Alberta and interested in the opportunity, just need to get my ducks in a row. Any chance you guys run 14 days on 7 off? I don't feel like moving but willing to travel back and forth.
Gquebed
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The AB migration begins...lol
The first time i left AB when it went bust i went to ONT, but i waited too long. I arrived just months before the 1990 Toronto housing bubble burst. Lol
The second time AB went bust i didnt waste anytime going overseas for work, but shoulda waited. Lol
Now this time i think i got it just right...i hope.
no yer forgetful as hell dude man
to much goin on it would seem
I used to be an asshole about you spouting off about growing
and for good reason at the time. It was illegal lol not that anyone here cares.
any emails I sent to you were all on the up and up.. never once said anything against you in emails
only on the board lol
so
whats that again Mr?
like we didn't hear about it endlessly lol..
still though..not once have we seen HIS wares...up close and personal like
none of this COMMERSH now eh!!
wanna see quads as they say lmaoHA HA back at it now....
VIANARCHRIS
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https://globalnews.ca/news/4744966/small-cannabis-growers-microcultivation-licences/
Small pot growers find roadblocks on path to microcultivation licences
Yan Boissonneault’s daughter was turning blue.
Without warning, his baby had stopped breathing, and he frantically performed CPR while his friend James Gallagher called 911.
Years later, the men still become emotional remembering that day. Boissonneault learned that his daughter had a rare disorder that caused epilepsy, and when pharmaceutical medications failed to cure her seizures, he turned to CBD oil, a non-psychoactive substance in marijuana.
READ MORE: Parents treating epileptic girl with marijuana oil want treatment to be legal
“It’s been two years now and she hasn’t had a seizure,” Boissonneault said, standing next to rows of pungent marijuana plants under glowing white lights. “That’s what got me involved in this. It’s quite personal.
“The only profit it gives me is the joy of seeing my daughter smile.”
Boissonneault and Gallagher now run a handful of small legal medical grow-ops in British Columbia and are among the “craft” producers who hope to use their skills in the fledgling recreational market by getting a new licence for microcultivation.
READ MORE: Can ‘craft cannabis’ replicate B.C.’s craft beer success?
But would-be applicants are discovering a major hurdle in their way: obtaining municipal approval and zoning, a key requirement of the licences. Many cities have not established zoning and either aren’t ready or are reluctant to allow microcultivation, growers say.
Small growers say the federal government failed to educate municipalities about the new licences and the need to create zoning to support them. As a result, they say, applications are delayed, the legal supply chain is beset with shortages and the illegal market continues to flourish.
“The spirit (of microcultivation licences) was to get the small growers involved and to get the black market to convert over to the new market,” said James Walsh, president of the BC Micro Licence Association.
“In reality we’re just not seeing it.”
Ottawa began accepting applications from microgrowers on Oct. 17, the same day it legalized recreational weed. The licences cover 200 square metres of plant canopy, allowing a premium cannabis producer to make up to $3 million in gross revenue a year, Walsh said.
But many small growers have not been able to apply to the federal government because they are still waiting for local zoning, he said.
Health Canada said it has received 23 applications for the licences so far, including five in B.C., five in Alberta, seven in Ontario and six in Quebec.
Cannabis legalization was the result of more than two years of consultation with all levels of government, and Health Canada has answered many questions from municipalities and remains available to do so, said spokeswoman Tammy Jarbeau.
“Health Canada has encouraged and supported municipalities to put in place standards and local bylaws as necessary,” she said in a statement.
The Federation of Canadian Municipalities published a guide to cannabis legalization in August 2017, providing advice on bylaws, zoning and business practices. The federation stressed the need to respect local authority during legalization consultations, it says on its website.
Still, small growers say they’re encountering municipal red tape and it’s especially bad in B.C., despite its reputation as a marijuana mecca.
READ MORE: Medical pot only OK for sick kids failed by other drugs: MDs
Part of the issue is B.C.’s Agricultural Land Reserve, legislation protecting farmland from being taken over by industry and residential development. In July, the province introduced a law allowing cities to prohibit concrete-based pot facilities on the land reserve.
There’s good reason to ban pouring concrete on precious agricultural land, said Malcolm Brodie, the mayor of Richmond, B.C.
“Very simply, you put that kind of construction on the farmland, you’ll never have it for soil-based farming again,” he said.
The city only wants one cannabis facility and it already has one, a licensed producer in an industrial area, said Brodie. He said applications in industrial areas will be considered on a case-by-case basis, though he wouldn’t guarantee any would be approved.
READ MORE: Vancouver, which had no legal pot shops on legalization day, recommends first 4 retail stores
There are already “hundreds and hundreds” of black-market grow-ops on the land reserve, said one small grower who asked not to be identified due to legal concerns. Within a 10-minute drive from his property, over a million dollars in cannabis is likely being produced monthly, he said.
“Do they want us to keep growing the weed and selling it out the back door or do they want the tax money?” he asked. “We’re going to do it on ALR land regardless.”
Growers use concrete facilities because soil is more likely to breed mould, yeast and bacteria, and open-air farming is impossible due to weather, he added.
In Ontario, some municipalities created zoning before Oct. 17 while others have waited until microcultivator applicants approach them, said Mathew Columbro, president and founder of consultancy firm Vindica Cannabis Corp.
READ MORE: What you need to know about CBD, the non-intoxicating cannabis chemical
“I think Ontario is doing a little bit better than B.C., but it’s not perfect,” Columbro said.
The application portal should have been opened prior to legalization day, instead large licensed producers got the first shot at the market, said Ian Dawkins, president of the Cannabis Commerce Association of Canada.
“The big story is fairness,” he said.
“If big business is afforded an opportunity to bid on something and small business is iced out, then that is considered an egregious policy failure.
“Yet on this enormous multibillion-dollar national project, where is that same leadership?”
Small medical producers have put a lot of time and passion into growing quality marijuana, said Gallagher, looking out over the thriving grow-op he shares with Boissonneault.
“We do have a lot of knowledge and we want to see how that transitions,” he said. “Can we turn this into a business now that it’s legal? That’s something that’s always been on our minds.”
Small pot growers find roadblocks on path to microcultivation licences
Yan Boissonneault’s daughter was turning blue.
Without warning, his baby had stopped breathing, and he frantically performed CPR while his friend James Gallagher called 911.
Years later, the men still become emotional remembering that day. Boissonneault learned that his daughter had a rare disorder that caused epilepsy, and when pharmaceutical medications failed to cure her seizures, he turned to CBD oil, a non-psychoactive substance in marijuana.
READ MORE: Parents treating epileptic girl with marijuana oil want treatment to be legal
“It’s been two years now and she hasn’t had a seizure,” Boissonneault said, standing next to rows of pungent marijuana plants under glowing white lights. “That’s what got me involved in this. It’s quite personal.
“The only profit it gives me is the joy of seeing my daughter smile.”
Boissonneault and Gallagher now run a handful of small legal medical grow-ops in British Columbia and are among the “craft” producers who hope to use their skills in the fledgling recreational market by getting a new licence for microcultivation.
READ MORE: Can ‘craft cannabis’ replicate B.C.’s craft beer success?
But would-be applicants are discovering a major hurdle in their way: obtaining municipal approval and zoning, a key requirement of the licences. Many cities have not established zoning and either aren’t ready or are reluctant to allow microcultivation, growers say.
Small growers say the federal government failed to educate municipalities about the new licences and the need to create zoning to support them. As a result, they say, applications are delayed, the legal supply chain is beset with shortages and the illegal market continues to flourish.
“The spirit (of microcultivation licences) was to get the small growers involved and to get the black market to convert over to the new market,” said James Walsh, president of the BC Micro Licence Association.
“In reality we’re just not seeing it.”
Ottawa began accepting applications from microgrowers on Oct. 17, the same day it legalized recreational weed. The licences cover 200 square metres of plant canopy, allowing a premium cannabis producer to make up to $3 million in gross revenue a year, Walsh said.
But many small growers have not been able to apply to the federal government because they are still waiting for local zoning, he said.
Health Canada said it has received 23 applications for the licences so far, including five in B.C., five in Alberta, seven in Ontario and six in Quebec.
Cannabis legalization was the result of more than two years of consultation with all levels of government, and Health Canada has answered many questions from municipalities and remains available to do so, said spokeswoman Tammy Jarbeau.
“Health Canada has encouraged and supported municipalities to put in place standards and local bylaws as necessary,” she said in a statement.
The Federation of Canadian Municipalities published a guide to cannabis legalization in August 2017, providing advice on bylaws, zoning and business practices. The federation stressed the need to respect local authority during legalization consultations, it says on its website.
Still, small growers say they’re encountering municipal red tape and it’s especially bad in B.C., despite its reputation as a marijuana mecca.
READ MORE: Medical pot only OK for sick kids failed by other drugs: MDs
Part of the issue is B.C.’s Agricultural Land Reserve, legislation protecting farmland from being taken over by industry and residential development. In July, the province introduced a law allowing cities to prohibit concrete-based pot facilities on the land reserve.
There’s good reason to ban pouring concrete on precious agricultural land, said Malcolm Brodie, the mayor of Richmond, B.C.
“Very simply, you put that kind of construction on the farmland, you’ll never have it for soil-based farming again,” he said.
The city only wants one cannabis facility and it already has one, a licensed producer in an industrial area, said Brodie. He said applications in industrial areas will be considered on a case-by-case basis, though he wouldn’t guarantee any would be approved.
READ MORE: Vancouver, which had no legal pot shops on legalization day, recommends first 4 retail stores
There are already “hundreds and hundreds” of black-market grow-ops on the land reserve, said one small grower who asked not to be identified due to legal concerns. Within a 10-minute drive from his property, over a million dollars in cannabis is likely being produced monthly, he said.
“Do they want us to keep growing the weed and selling it out the back door or do they want the tax money?” he asked. “We’re going to do it on ALR land regardless.”
Growers use concrete facilities because soil is more likely to breed mould, yeast and bacteria, and open-air farming is impossible due to weather, he added.
In Ontario, some municipalities created zoning before Oct. 17 while others have waited until microcultivator applicants approach them, said Mathew Columbro, president and founder of consultancy firm Vindica Cannabis Corp.
READ MORE: What you need to know about CBD, the non-intoxicating cannabis chemical
“I think Ontario is doing a little bit better than B.C., but it’s not perfect,” Columbro said.
The application portal should have been opened prior to legalization day, instead large licensed producers got the first shot at the market, said Ian Dawkins, president of the Cannabis Commerce Association of Canada.
“The big story is fairness,” he said.
“If big business is afforded an opportunity to bid on something and small business is iced out, then that is considered an egregious policy failure.
“Yet on this enormous multibillion-dollar national project, where is that same leadership?”
Small medical producers have put a lot of time and passion into growing quality marijuana, said Gallagher, looking out over the thriving grow-op he shares with Boissonneault.
“We do have a lot of knowledge and we want to see how that transitions,” he said. “Can we turn this into a business now that it’s legal? That’s something that’s always been on our minds.”
westcoast420
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No surprise the govt making it as difficult as possible for the small guy to get in the game. The big corporate lp's really dont want the small guys around cause we actually know how to grow quality. Just the fact you couldnt even apply for a micro licence till oct 17 is a joke in itself. Plus you cant even get an application, have to sign up online and give them all your info first and then can do the app online.
@itsmehigh curious if this property will house multiple micros or just one large facility? As far as i know you can only have one micro cultivation licence per address? Is the main facility going to act as a central processor for micros that want to sell their product?
@itsmehigh curious if this property will house multiple micros or just one large facility? As far as i know you can only have one micro cultivation licence per address? Is the main facility going to act as a central processor for micros that want to sell their product?
Pulpit_
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Micros are one per unique address, meaning if there are multiple units at the same address you can have multiple micros on the same property. If it's a farm you're only allowed one.
Been looking into the micro also. Biggest issue is if you need the paperwork done and are going to use a consultant they want 50k for a micro and 50k for a process. However they will do a full Lp for 85k so everyone is doing the full Lp as it's cheaper. Lp includes the processing and you can also get your export sales license and that's where the $ is being made. Prices are dropping fast for the consultants as I have heard 25k for micro. As of today.I want to do a craft but don't want to sell my top shelf to a Lp for their shit ass price. Government has made a real fuckin mess for the craft guy.
Been looking into the micro also. Biggest issue is if you need the paperwork done and are going to use a consultant they want 50k for a micro and 50k for a process. However they will do a full Lp for 85k so everyone is doing the full Lp as it's cheaper. Lp includes the processing and you can also get your export sales license and that's where the $ is being made. Prices are dropping fast for the consultants as I have heard 25k for micro. As of today.I want to do a craft but don't want to sell my top shelf to a Lp for their shit ass price. Government has made a real fuckin mess for the craft guy.
CannaReview
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Yah I know two people now who were ready to go Mirco then after realizing the restrictions and money involved they switched to LP way.
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WHATFG
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Legalization was not intended for the craft guy.