Is a nuclear Iran bad for the world?

AFROBIN77

Active Member
Yes, i disagree with u.s. Trying to tell everyone what to do , all we really want is the oil anyway. And u must understand the history of the cia ,if iran bucks on any agreement made,
believe me it will be an assassination and the start of world war iii....
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Wow, Miss Kynes got fed a dose of, "sit down and shut the fuck up", by echo, ub and pin. All in one night, in a span of 20 posts. His bottom must be hurting.
nope. no tushy trauma down this end, but then my butt is well hardened by long distance motorcycle rides and occasional horse ridin.

it takes more than a few numbskulls with no understanding of governance, philosophy, history or logic to chap my scaly backside.

i have ideals, and i live them, i can see how that must really put a burr under your saddle, but that dont befront me.
i got my own troubles to deal with, yours are of no concern to me.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Yes, i disagree with u.s. Trying to tell everyone what to do , all we really want is the oil anyway. And u must understand the history of the cia ,if iran bucks on any agreement made,
believe me it will be an assassination and the start of world war iii....
the iranians have broken every deal they have ever made with the western world, dating all the way back to when they were called persia.

after the church commission in the 70's the CIA is more myth and legend than real power. if they had the kind of pure unadulterated badassery claimed by the conspiracy theorists, the soviets would have collapsed far sooner, abu sayyf would be demolished in an afternoon, and iran would be run by another tame Pahlavi Emperor on the Peacock Throne.
 

AFROBIN77

Active Member
Ok, just to educate you a little on islam soo you don't seem so ingnorant when youy speak ......mohammad is a prophet not god and they worship god(allah)... Christians are the ones who think jesus is god or the son of .........
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Ok, just to educate you a little on islam soo you don't seem so ingnorant when youy speak ......mohammad is a prophet not god and they worship god(allah)... Christians are the ones who think jesus is god or the son of .........

if you use the "reply with quote" button you can target your rebuttal to the appropriate remarks.
 

AFROBIN77

Active Member
1 their program has not been completed yet, 2 they care not what their citizens think. They follow the will of mohammad, their god. 3 yes they do. They can stop developing fissionable material and give up the task appointed to them by "god", or they can continue to lie about it and still get the same benefit. You have a bad case of wishful thinking, or a bad case of "i'll believe anything the party tells me."
just to help you not sound do ignorant when you speak muhammad is thier prophet and they follow the will of god (allah) ....
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
just to help you not sound do ignorant when you speak muhammad is thier prophet and they follow the will of god (allah) ....
however, as mohammed is the last prophet, thus the statements he dictated for the koran, and the stories of the hadith are the FINAL WORD on "allah's will" the distinction between "allah" and his sole spokesman becomes irrelevant.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
You are specifically, not to worship, iconify, depict, and certainly not put Mohammed, blessed be his name, before Allah, in any way.

You are not allowed to paint a scene, for example with his image. So, no image exists...just like Jesus. Cool trick, huh?
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
You are specifically, not to worship, iconify, depict, and certainly not put Mohammed, blessed be his name, before Allah, in any way.

You are not allowed to paint a scene, for example with his image. So, no image exists...just like Jesus. Cool trick, huh?
I am submitting my picture of Mohammed dressed in pure white linen in a North Dakota Blizzard.
Mohammed in ND.jpg
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
You are specifically, not to worship, iconify, depict, and certainly not put Mohammed, blessed be his name, before Allah, in any way.

You are not allowed to paint a scene, for example with his image. So, no image exists...just like Jesus. Cool trick, huh?
curiously that is NOT really the case.

mohammed had a price on his head, and toi protect himself from bounty hunters and assassins, he decreed that his image should not be drawn sculpted cast or painted, but before this "revelation" many images of MoMo had already been disseminated:




then they went for the Flame Head images:



and eventually the much later interpretation that all works of the creator are forbidden from being rendered as images so illustrations became stylized text which i find quite appealing:


 

echelon1k1

New Member
the iranians have broken every deal they have ever made with the western world, dating all the way back to when they were called persia.

after the church commission in the 70's the CIA is more myth and legend than real power. if they had the kind of pure unadulterated badassery claimed by the conspiracy theorists, the soviets would have collapsed far sooner, abu sayyf would be demolished in an afternoon, and iran would be run by another tame Pahlavi Emperor on the Peacock Throne.
You gotta drop the McCarthy mentality... It's like you time travel here from 1960...
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
You gotta drop the McCarthy mentality... It's like you time travel here from 1960...
again criticism without substance.

the iranians HAVE violated every deal EVER with the west since Cyrus the Great kicked the bucket and his son came in and rescinded all of daddy's kinder and gentler edicts.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
again criticism without substance.

the iranians HAVE violated every deal EVER with the west since Cyrus the Great kicked the bucket and his son came in and rescinded all of daddy's kinder and gentler edicts.
sure bro... when was the last time Iran organised regime change in the US? I rest my case...
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
sure bro... when was the last time Iran organised regime change in the US? I rest my case...
if you dont count assassination squads targeting US policy makers and israeli diplomats?

further, where is the deal keeping in your specious non-sequitur?

breaking deals and treaties has EVERYTHING to do with the restoring of the last Pahlavi Shah, who was reinstalled because the "democratically elected" turd who replaced him broke every deal he had with the west.

try to stay on-subject.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
if you dont count assassination squads targeting US policy makers and israeli diplomats?

further, where is the deal keeping in your specious non-sequitur?

breaking deals and treaties has EVERYTHING to do with the restoring of the last Pahlavi Shah, who was reinstalled because the "democratically elected" turd who replaced him broke every deal he had with the west.

try to stay on-subject.
obviously not familiar with how regime change works, I don't have time to explain it to you - google it.

secondly, assassination squads have been the mainstay of western policy directives towards Iran, don't get dirty when they reply in kind. As for Israel, they false flag half of their shit, using proxy terrorist groups like the MEK to do their bidding in Iran, Pakistan & India.

Breaking treaties has nothing to do with the Shah. The US just can't help but stick its nose in on behalf of the Saudis, muddying the waters and sowing the seeds of anarchy and sectarian violence. Why you expect the rest of the world to bow to your non existent exceptionalism is beyond me, but you need to get out of your 1960's time warp and join the modern world.

I've stayed on subject and handed your ass to you, corrected your capricious assertions tainted by religious bias. congrats zealot.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
obviously not familiar with how regime change works, I don't have time to explain it to you - google it.

secondly, assassination squads have been the mainstay of western policy directives towards Iran, don't get dirty when they reply in kind. As for Israel, they false flag half of their shit, using proxy terrorist groups like the MEK to do their bidding in Iran, Pakistan & India.

Breaking treaties has nothing to do with the Shah. The US just can't help but stick its nose in on behalf of the Saudis, muddying the waters and sowing the seeds of anarchy and sectarian violence. Why you expect the rest of the world to bow to your non existent exceptionalism is beyond me, but you need to get out of your 1960's time warp and join the modern world.

I've stayed on subject and handed your ass to you, corrected your capricious assertions tainted by religious bias. congrats zealot.
the pahalvi shah was restored to power EXPLICITLY because the new regime was nationalizing the oil fields, dispossessing several powerful companies in direct violation of their contracts with the iranian government.

if the new regime had kept their deals till the contracts expired and then renegotiated, or had arranged compensation for the dispossessed companies when they nationalized, the shah would have remained in exile.

history is not your strong suit is it?
 

echelon1k1

New Member
the pahalvi shah was restored to power EXPLICITLY because the new regime was nationalizing the oil fields, dispossessing several powerful companies in direct violation of their contracts with the iranian government.

if the new regime had kept their deals till the contracts expired and then renegotiated, or had arranged compensation for the dispossessed companies when they nationalized, the shah would have remained in exile.

history is not your strong suit is it?
Yeah fuck, wouldn't want a country to nationalise its own oil - threatening the stranglehold the US has over the petrodollar.

This is why I asked you if you've left the United States, your world view is pathetically biased and fearfully religious.
 
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