Is Anybody Juicing or Eating Cannabis?

burnedout1958

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Damn. hey thanks for the heads up on that. its too bad. And your right for sure about high level dosing of cbd orally. up till now she hasnt liked any oil we have produced because she doesnt like the effect. As soon as i can find a good low thc high cbd strain she can start taking it in high dosage. I don't have as serious of a condition as her. I have scoliosis so my spine is very out of wack and they kept prescribing me heavy narcotics and cortizone shots in my spine. I find that both thc and cbd help me for pain and sleep. they have a few cbd crew seeds growing now as wellas an autoflower blue mamoth so ill let you know how those work. i really wish she could tolerate a higher level of thc but she is very by the book and doesnt like to feel very intoxicated. unfortunatley the drugs shes on now are very extreme and having ill effects. thanks for all the help and ill let you know if i can find any good strains available.
Your wife sounds like mine, THC really messes them up with a strong high that causes nausea, and other undesired effects, for those not used to smoking it for years, mine is starting to use a bit more THC, from a loli pop, that helps to put her to sleep a bit better at times.. Sohum seeds still has Canna-TSU seeds they say at least 50% of the plants that grow have high levels of CBD just like the 2 parents(Cannatonic from Spain and their own creation Sour Tsunami ) that make this new strain.

Only thing is they ONLY sell it in California, and you have to be a resident to get a Medical Recommendation.

me I already ruined one package, as soon as I get a second one , I will try to make it happen.

since I'm new to growing I made some serious mistakes with this batch and my first batch of seeds. so now I'm slowing down , and just buying the tinctures , but once I learn , we will be juicing and eating the green stuff, and spend less money.
 

mrCRC420

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***** I really rambled here but (perhaps) said some helpful shit*****

@LBH: Thanks for the corrections/additions to my post way back; right on.
@grassroots420 & burnedout1958: I think CBD strains are on their way to dispensaries. It's not the money maker right now so people are not quick to release those genetics. Contacting the dispensary directly could actually be a great idea; I bet we'll see "Charlotte's Web" s33ds available online within the next five years. And many other primarily CBD strains as well! I believe it was Sanjay's doc that said smoking cannabis won't be an efficient method of cbd delivery. You have to concentrate it and then do whatever, eat it, IV it, depends on use and setting.

There are a few tricks you can use to balance out the THC/CBD ratio for your ladies. Heat + Time + Light + Late Harvest all degrade thc into cbn. CBN is a lot like CBD; read up on it; they may find it more tolerable than THC. I red somewhere that after 6mo. in the sun you'll lose 50% thc - can't cite that, just throwing out information. Here's what I figure. With my Volcano Vape thc boils/decarboxolates around setting 6; while cbd decarbxs around setting 7.5; and cbn at setting 8+ (I do have the actual temps/settings written down but they are not with me sorry) - so if you decarbx the thc from the bud and leave her the cbd she'll be able to smoke with you and not worry about freaking out. It works for my girlfriend :).... You can also late harvest; amber trichomes contain a far less psychoactive thc. I late harvested an indica early last winter and when I smoked it my muscles would relax and I'd feel pretty damn good, but I didn't feel high. Yea! Heat + Time + Light + Late-Harvest :weed:
 

burnedout1958

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***** I really rambled here but (perhaps) said some helpful shit*****

@LBH: Thanks for the corrections/additions to my post way back; right on.
@grassroots420 & burnedout1958: I think CBD strains are on their way to dispensaries. It's not the money maker right now so people are not quick to release those genetics. Contacting the dispensary directly could actually be a great idea; I bet we'll see "Charlotte's Web" s33ds available online within the next five years. And many other primarily CBD strains as well! I believe it was Sanjay's doc that said smoking cannabis won't be an efficient method of cbd delivery. You have to concentrate it and then do whatever, eat it, IV it, depends on use and setting.

There are a few tricks you can use to balance out the THC/CBD ratio for your ladies. Heat + Time + Light + Late Harvest all degrade thc into cbn. CBN is a lot like CBD; read up on it; they may find it more tolerable than THC. I red somewhere that after 6mo. in the sun you'll lose 50% thc - can't cite that, just throwing out information. Here's what I figure. With my Volcano Vape thc boils/decarboxolates around setting 6; while cbd decarbxs around setting 7.5; and cbn at setting 8+ (I do have the actual temps/settings written down but they are not with me sorry) - so if you decarbx the thc from the bud and leave her the cbd she'll be able to smoke with you and not worry about freaking out. It works for my girlfriend :).... You can also late harvest; amber trichomes contain a far less psychoactive thc. I late harvested an indica early last winter and when I smoked it my muscles would relax and I'd feel pretty damn good, but I didn't feel high. Yea! Heat + Time + Light + Late-Harvest :weed:


CRC I think you missed in my posts , were I say my wife and son ARE using a tincture that is made from a HIGH cbd plant, the result is that every dropper full (1 ML ) / has 8 Mg (weight) per dropper full, BUt only 2mg of THC in the same dropper full.

We also buy a MEDIUM 1:1 ratio mixture that she finds LESS good affects from that has 5Mg of CBD per 1mL or dropper full AND 5mg of THC in the same dropper full.

As I understand all that I've read so far, THCa decarbx into THC >>not CBN

let me put a copy of this link http://www.marijuanagrowershq.com/decarboxylating-cannabis-turning-thca-into-thc/ for you to read below (BTW THC is really not that great of a "medicine" it's great to get high though ;) THCa is much better)

So here is the deal. THCA (Tetrahydrocannabinolic Acid) is found in abundance in growing and harvested cannabis and is a biosynthetic precursor of THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol). Wow, this sounds scary like organic chemistry, doesn’t it? It is, so for both of our benefits, I’ll give you the dumbed down version.
Research suggests THCA has anti-inflammatory and neuroprotective effects but does not produce the psychoactive effect that make you feel “high”. This “high” is from the cannabinoid THC, of which little if any is found when cannabis is growing or recently harvested.
Decarboxylation is a chemical reaction that releases carbon dioxide (CO[SUB]2[/SUB]). This means a chemical reaction takes place in which carboxylic acids loose a carbon atom from a carbon chain. This process converts THCA to THC, the much loved compound with many medicinal and psychoactive effects. When the cannabis drys, it very very slowly begins to decarboxylate and converts THCA to THC.
The good news is we don’t have to wait years for cannabis to decarboxylate. We can speed things along with a process that is a lot simpler than you might expect. Simply heating dried cannabis to the correct temperature for enough time releases that carbon dioxide and creates THC. Why have so many of you never heard of this before? Decarboxylating takes place without extra effort when cannabis is heated during the act of smoking or vaporizing. It also takes place to some degree when cannabis is cooked into butter or when hash and kief are added to a favorite recipe and then cooked in the oven

so THC does NOT leave the plant as you mentioned on your last paragraph AND as you put it MOST weed for smoke at dispensaries are HIGH on THC and extremely LOW on CBD and his wife WILL freak out if she does not yet have a immunity or "used to it " kinda like me with Vicodin and Soma I have to stay OFF it for a couple of days on weekends so it it "feels" like it's working much better during the week when I have to go to work!

just making sure we understand what we use. BTW CBd also has neuroprotective powers just ask my wife after one of her migraines, her brain normally SWELLS up and she is useless for 3 days or more, so is a coworker male of mine. since she has been on CBD , her migraines are almost non existent and she gets NO brain swelling
 

LBH

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Burned out, what kind of results are you seeing in your wife and child and has one taken to it better than the other?
 

burnedout1958

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Burned out, what kind of results are you seeing in your wife and child and has one taken to it better than the other?


My wife has consistently taken the CBD tincture since I got her her doctors rec in June, the tinctures are the best by a country mile.

she had a really BAD night the first night we went to the dispensary and bought all kinds of things to try, I had been reading about it for a month or so before that day. but being Mr. Eager beaver a.k.a Walter from the big Lebowski , I pushed her to try one of the LOLIPOPS . from what we are now learning all to well. EACH BATCH of "eatables" is like a spin on the lottery wheel on Wednesday night. you never know what you are going to get, now luckily being in California , we "seem" to be in the forefront of Cannabis (although Washington and Colorado seem to be catching up) the lolipos did NOT kick in as fast as we thought. I kept telling her to suck on it a bit more (add joke here ) and by the time it HIT her, it was a hour later, by then she had had a FEW hits and it made her nauseous and her JAW muscles kept spassoming on her ( this is a RARE side effect but like I said she is VERY sensitive to drugs and it hit her, she also violently throws up on OPIATES !!!! )

Anyways to really answer you question the high CBD as it relates to my wife, lowers her blood pressure it was 128/68 today , it removes ALL the swelling in her ankles from a bad heart valve , and the biggest good effect, she has fewer migraines, and if she does have one it just does not have the 3 day swelling of the brain. she is strating to like a LITTLE bit of THC, and is working her way up to it. We just were given a SAMPLE of CANNABAN ? these are 2 pills in a paper/plastic skin pack , she took one last night, but is has 1/2 of one dropper of her tincture that she is out of right now, she told me it was not enough. we also bought the last gram of Simpson's oil , but she has not tried it yet. we also got some other pill I will come back in this post later and edit the name and potency.

She has also been using since the begining UNTIL we found the tincture, a CHEEVA SHEW they sell it in 3 potencies , we bought the 4 serving ones and she generally got MODERATE relieve form one serving of them . just for gigle we bought some new less potent cherry and strawberry lolipops that were very good smelling and tasting, she could not stop sucking on the darn things and then I reminded her of the first night. Well she ate almost 3/4 of it and she got the silly gigles her and my son, meanwhile I'm climbing the walls wanting to sample this stuff and bitchier than a panther with dogs on his ass. Finally medicated myself with my pills, drank a Corona and passed out.

My son is 29 years old, I can't reveal much about him, for our own sake. but let's just say he is a bit of a LUSH like his older sister , and he has friend down the street that dable in the substances of the world. so he gets to smoke all the pot we do buy or get freebie joints when we buy, and is using mom's fist pipe. also a freebie at the first dispensary in West Los Angeles that we belong to. they sell some killer lolipops (her first ) and some of our friends love said lolipops too that they also buy there.

my son just like my wife that I forgot to mention can NOT sleep , my whole batch of people in this house with ME as the exception sleep like 5 hours and jump up like no hassle. me ALL my life, less that 12 hours and I am worhtless. I get my 12 hours and I can work another 12 with no problem, and my work has never been the easy stuff.

I just finished once again watching one of my favorite movies the BIG Lebowski and my mind is just wanting to use one the Dude's saying, but will control myself.

my son is getting better relieve for his aches and pains and his sleep disorders along with some other stuff I don't want to discuss about him. so we are fully aware of the benefits of concentrated CBD that you EAT!!!! no smoking CBD , it just is a different medication than what THC does. THCa also is a eatable ONLY medication as is CBC and CBN and those 2 are really in SMALL amounts if any. depends on the genes of the plant.

this is why I get so Walter up in arms about these cocksuckers that are holding tight to these strains and the LANDRACE (who the fuck came up with that terminology ). Every time I see that DUTCH "arjan " COCKSUCKEr I get crazy, he goes all over the globe, finds these NATURAL UNALTERED strains , give the locals his strains, because the demand for high THC pays the bills (Can't blame the locals, too uneducated) and these guys go back to Amsterdam , lock them up and come up with new HYBRID strains. They NEVER sell seeds of the pure stuff. that they keep.

Knowing Spanish I have put out some feelers out there in some groups, but I get nothing but silcence. no one is releasing Punta ROja or the biche limon (has another name too) or the 3rd one that the Dutchman , found in Columbia.

If any of you have friend with seeds from the 1970's that have been grown that way since then, get some and make more seed , those plants are worth money EVEN if they are regular THC plants, it the fact that they were created by BEES and BIRDS that makes them so hardy and able to be cross pollinated into new hybrids capable of new potent goods.

I heard that the plain old HEMP seeds that are "not valuable" because they are low on THC, have been found in some cases to be middle to high CBD carriers . guys I'm passing on what I'm learning just so maybe my friend can someday make extra seeds and sell them to people like me looking for Medication and not so much the high.

Me personally can tell you from my memories of weed and hashish in the 1970's early 1980,s the grass never impressed me, although I loved the Hashish ! to me a Vicodin / lithium / soma chased down with a Corona , wins every time. but that's just me. one of these days I will take some of that Mushroom powder and make me some.

Arthritis is killing me, literally turning me into a STONE statue, and I still have 10 years to go for retirement.

anyways I will let you know more as I learn it. that's the reason I use a nick name , a VPN service to try and keep my identity some what safe.. although I just read that the NSA now keeps your files for ever if you are using TOR or any VPN , but since I always say FUCK THE NSA before I crap, it's ok ;)

bow that's alot of rambling , I can hear Walter saying SHUT THE FUCK UP DONNY! ;)
 

mrCRC420

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Burnedout1958: I'll read your posts in a sec; they're super long but I look forward to seeing what you wrote. I did read your earlier posts actually and perhaps was just adding to what you said; I see that you use a highly concentrated tincture; that's great and I definitely am interested in the method they use to achieve that kind of THCa/CBNa ratio. Now, I was referring to decarboxylated cannabinoids. THCa molecules that are heated lose the acid molecule and become THC; THC that is heated further, exposed to time, or light degrades further into CBN (note that these do not have the acids attached). If you google "thc degrades to cbn" you'll get lots of articles on it; and in terms of SMOKING, what I posted is valuable knowledge! :) "Cannabinol (CBN) is the primary product of THC degradation, and there is usually little of it in a fresh plant. CBN content increases as THC degrades in storage, ..." - Wikipedia :weed:
 

burnedout1958

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CRC I did not know that, it my turn to say I misunderstood or missed that point you just made. thank you. looks like it's not a desired thing in pot it STEALS 90% of the pot's strength in the THC. here's a quote

Cannabinol - CBN

Cannabinol - CBN is not produced by the plant per se. It is the degradation (oxidative) product of THC. Fresh samples of marijuana contain very little CBN but curing, poor storage, or processing such as when making hashish, can cause much of the THC to be oxidized to CBN. Pure forms of CBN have at most 10 percent of the psychoactivity of THC.

"Like CBD, it is suspected of potentiating certain aspects of the high, although so far these effects appear to be slight. CBN seems to potentiate THC's disorienting qualities. One may feel more dizzy or drugged or generally messed up but not necessarily higher.

In fact, with a high proportion of CBN, the high may start well but feels as if it never quite reaches its peak, and when coming down one feels tired or sleepy. High CBN in homegrown grass is not desirable since it represents a loss of 90 percent of the psychoactivity of its precursor THC."


the company making the tinctures I use is

http://www.altacaliforniabotanicals.com/about.html and their product is based on this organization http://www.cbdscience.com/ read both web sites if interested. it's pretty good stuff ALL organic !

sorry for as usual coming off as a ahole. even my grand kids know this, I'm just a bit like Walter on the big Lebowski always agitated " naturally " LMAO
 

Skunkybud

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Has anyone heard of a California style salad I've done it once with a big harvest very tastey. Its mainly fan leaves cucumber slices sliced red onion and sweet cherry tomatoes with ranch or thousand island dressing or whatever you want
 

Someacdude

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Just found this thread, been juicing for a few months , feel great, dropped 20 lbs,never even thought about adding trim.
What affect would it have?
 

mrCRC420

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Nice, man! Adding trim or buds would greatly increase the amount of cannabinoids you're ingesting. There are heating methods to decarboxylate your buds in order to have a more psychoactive drink vs medicated. Look into it :)
 
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