jeff f
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seriously this is how you know? you buy your share of fish and shrimp? thats how you know? so massive govt involvment would have some how stopped this? seriously......this is how you think?
Is anyone else still upset about the Gulf Oil Spill?
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seriously this is how you know? you buy your share of fish and shrimp? thats how you know? so massive govt involvment would have some how stopped this? seriously......this is how you think?
jeff f
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so its perry IS cheney.....? thats what its gonna be? he is tied to cheney. bring it on....
WillyBagseed
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Oil spill ? they still haven't fixed all the shit from Katrina.
hazyintentions
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No, I massive government interference is not the message I would send to stop further event but governments action to protect it's people and coasts is what I would say was damn needed and did not happen.
While I am also upset about Bush's handling of the Katrina situation it isn't government place to rebuild an area that was built in what is essentially a giant bowl. People who lived there had to have known the risk so it isn't government's job to fix things for them. It's like moving onto an island and then after a hurricane pulls your house off it's stilts expecting the government to build you a brand spanking new home, not a reality.Willyßagseed;6133304 said:
One of the Federal government jobs SHOULD be to react and respond to natural disasters immediately such as katrina and the gulf oil spill but NOT to rebuild, that's a fine line. BP should be held responsible and being as they drilled in OUR waters they are liable and personally I believe the workers in the states affected should have a right to sue over the damages.
WillyBagseed
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So the poor people that were born and raised there should have known better than to live somewhere the Corp of Engineers flooded. (ninth ward)
olylifter420
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olylifter420
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Sinsay
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I dont think anybody said it end the world as we know it nor does the earth just clean its self up
http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/oceanography/great-pacific-garbage-patch.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon_Valdez_oil_spill
Oil still remains
The oil that has spilled into the region is claimed to be just as toxic as it was 20 years ago. Due to its toxicity, the oil is still killing many birds and marine life to this day.[citation needed] Sea otters and other marine life have a small region for gathering food and living. The oil spill has affected many of the hunting and living areas of many marine animals, and has forced animals to migrate to other areas that have a sustainable living area. Some species have been drastically affected by this oil spill.[citation needed] In particular a bird species by the name Kittlitz's Murrelets have declined 99% from 1974 to 2004.[citation needed] The accelerated rate of bird deaths was due mainly to the oil spill destroying the animals habitat.[citation needed] Species such as the Pigeon Guillemot and the Marbled Murrelet have also decreased in numbers due to the oil spill.[citation needed] Oil has also extended to the Kenai Peninsula, which is located 450 miles away from the site of occurrence, destroying even more natural habitats that once belonged to a wide range of wild life.
The spill is the "worst environmental disaster the US has faced", according to White House energy adviser Carol Browner.[243] Indeed, the spill was by far the largest in US history, almost 20 times greater than the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[244] Factors such as petroleum toxicity, oxygen depletion and the use of Corexit dispersant are expected to be the main causes of damage.[245][246] Eight U.S. national parks are threatened.[247] More than 400 species that live in the Gulf islands and marshlands are at risk, including the endangered Kemp's Ridley turtle, the Green Turtle, the Loggerhead Turtle, the Hawksbill Turtle, and the Leatherback Turtle. In the national refuges most at risk, about 34,000 birds have been counted, including gulls, pelicans, roseate spoonbills, egrets, terns, and blue herons.[69] A comprehensive 2009 inventory of offshore Gulf species counted 15,700. The area of the oil spill includes 8,332 species, including more than 1,200 fish, 200 birds, 1,400 molluscs, 1,500 crustaceans, 4 sea turtles, and 29 marine mammals.[248][249] As of November 2, 2010, 6,814 dead animals had been collected, including 6,104 birds, 609 sea turtles, 100 dolphins and other mammals, and 1 other reptile.[250][251] According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, cause of death had not been determined as of late June. According to NOAA, since January 1, 2011, 67 dead dolphins have been found in the area affected by the oil spill, with 35 of them premature or newborn calves. The cause is under investigation.[252]
In May, 2010, Duke University marine biologist Larry Crowder said threatened loggerhead turtles on Carolina beaches could swim out into contaminated waters. Ninety percent of North Carolina's commercially valuable sea life spawn off the coast and could be contaminated if oil reaches the area. Douglas Rader, a scientist for the Environmental Defense Fund, said prey could be negatively affected as well. Steve Ross of UNC-Wilmington said coral reefs could be smothered.[253] In early June Harry Roberts, a professor of Coastal Studies at Louisiana State University, stated that 4 million barrels (640,000 m³) of oil would be enough to "wipe out marine life deep at sea near the leak and elsewhere in the Gulf" as well as "along hundreds of miles of coastline." Mak Saito, an Associate Scientist at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts indicated that such an amount of oil "may alter the chemistry of the sea, with unforeseeable results."[254] Samantha Joye of the University of Georgia indicated that the oil could harm fish directly, and microbes used to consume the oil would also reduce oxygen levels in the water.[255] According to Joye, the ecosystem could require years or even decades to recover, as previous spills have done.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/oceanography/great-pacific-garbage-patch.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon_Valdez_oil_spill
Oil still remains
The oil that has spilled into the region is claimed to be just as toxic as it was 20 years ago. Due to its toxicity, the oil is still killing many birds and marine life to this day.[citation needed] Sea otters and other marine life have a small region for gathering food and living. The oil spill has affected many of the hunting and living areas of many marine animals, and has forced animals to migrate to other areas that have a sustainable living area. Some species have been drastically affected by this oil spill.[citation needed] In particular a bird species by the name Kittlitz's Murrelets have declined 99% from 1974 to 2004.[citation needed] The accelerated rate of bird deaths was due mainly to the oil spill destroying the animals habitat.[citation needed] Species such as the Pigeon Guillemot and the Marbled Murrelet have also decreased in numbers due to the oil spill.[citation needed] Oil has also extended to the Kenai Peninsula, which is located 450 miles away from the site of occurrence, destroying even more natural habitats that once belonged to a wide range of wild life.
The spill is the "worst environmental disaster the US has faced", according to White House energy adviser Carol Browner.[243] Indeed, the spill was by far the largest in US history, almost 20 times greater than the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[244] Factors such as petroleum toxicity, oxygen depletion and the use of Corexit dispersant are expected to be the main causes of damage.[245][246] Eight U.S. national parks are threatened.[247] More than 400 species that live in the Gulf islands and marshlands are at risk, including the endangered Kemp's Ridley turtle, the Green Turtle, the Loggerhead Turtle, the Hawksbill Turtle, and the Leatherback Turtle. In the national refuges most at risk, about 34,000 birds have been counted, including gulls, pelicans, roseate spoonbills, egrets, terns, and blue herons.[69] A comprehensive 2009 inventory of offshore Gulf species counted 15,700. The area of the oil spill includes 8,332 species, including more than 1,200 fish, 200 birds, 1,400 molluscs, 1,500 crustaceans, 4 sea turtles, and 29 marine mammals.[248][249] As of November 2, 2010, 6,814 dead animals had been collected, including 6,104 birds, 609 sea turtles, 100 dolphins and other mammals, and 1 other reptile.[250][251] According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, cause of death had not been determined as of late June. According to NOAA, since January 1, 2011, 67 dead dolphins have been found in the area affected by the oil spill, with 35 of them premature or newborn calves. The cause is under investigation.[252]
In May, 2010, Duke University marine biologist Larry Crowder said threatened loggerhead turtles on Carolina beaches could swim out into contaminated waters. Ninety percent of North Carolina's commercially valuable sea life spawn off the coast and could be contaminated if oil reaches the area. Douglas Rader, a scientist for the Environmental Defense Fund, said prey could be negatively affected as well. Steve Ross of UNC-Wilmington said coral reefs could be smothered.[253] In early June Harry Roberts, a professor of Coastal Studies at Louisiana State University, stated that 4 million barrels (640,000 m³) of oil would be enough to "wipe out marine life deep at sea near the leak and elsewhere in the Gulf" as well as "along hundreds of miles of coastline." Mak Saito, an Associate Scientist at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts indicated that such an amount of oil "may alter the chemistry of the sea, with unforeseeable results."[254] Samantha Joye of the University of Georgia indicated that the oil could harm fish directly, and microbes used to consume the oil would also reduce oxygen levels in the water.[255] According to Joye, the ecosystem could require years or even decades to recover, as previous spills have done.
Hey Psssst
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funny in US anything the Govt does to protect people,from Big Bus and int interference..
even when it happens from disaster in US waters.. guess you could say one looks after the people...
the other don't give a rats ass about "We the People"......
here Govt interference is welcome.....
I bet they US Govt don't check the shrimps etc
VANCOUVER(NEWS1130)- It's being called a prudent measure, planned since June.
Our food inspectors will be checking to see if salmon returning to our waters were contaminated by radiation from Japan's damaged nuclear reactors.
The CFIA says tests couldn't be done earlier because the salmon hadn't yet returned to BC waters.
Marine biologist and activist Alexandra Morton says there's been radiation readings in seaweed in North Vancouver so why not check the salmon.
"Well, I always think it's a good idea that we know. I mean, one way or another let's find out if these fish have radiation in them.
even when it happens from disaster in US waters.. guess you could say one looks after the people...
the other don't give a rats ass about "We the People"......
here Govt interference is welcome.....
I bet they US Govt don't check the shrimps etc
VANCOUVER(NEWS1130)- It's being called a prudent measure, planned since June.
Our food inspectors will be checking to see if salmon returning to our waters were contaminated by radiation from Japan's damaged nuclear reactors.
The CFIA says tests couldn't be done earlier because the salmon hadn't yet returned to BC waters.
Marine biologist and activist Alexandra Morton says there's been radiation readings in seaweed in North Vancouver so why not check the salmon.
"Well, I always think it's a good idea that we know. I mean, one way or another let's find out if these fish have radiation in them.
PetFlora
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Until such time as free energy devices are allowed to be available to consumers, we are forced to deal with the scum of the earth who sucks both the earth and us dry. Of course this will not happen as long as people continue to believe in either party. And although the Tea Party had good intentions, sadly, the neocons managed to get some control there. What we need is for both parties to elect Ron P and toss anyone who disagrees with his policies.
George Kavassilas (google him!) brought up an interesting concept: Oil is dark energy, loaded with dark entities. Imagine how many were released from the BP oil fiasco, and since they too are dark energy, it was intentional
George Kavassilas (google him!) brought up an interesting concept: Oil is dark energy, loaded with dark entities. Imagine how many were released from the BP oil fiasco, and since they too are dark energy, it was intentional
Johnnyorganic
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dukeanthony
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No i am not.
I should be but it has passed from my thoughts
I should be but it has passed from my thoughts
jeff f
New Member
free as in the govt gives it to you?
cuz as far as i know, you are free to put up a stupid windmill that wont work on calm days, or put up one of those ugly ass, natural looking (total sarcasm) humongous solar panel systems.
and you can even make some money if you agree to sell the extra.
when will you be placing your order?
Hey Psssst
Member
A long-awaited Alberta Health study into the health of people living downstream from the oilsands, where cancer rates are higher than normal, appears to be finally going ahead.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/08/19/cancer-oilsands-link_n_931964.html
Concerns were first raised in 2006 about elevated cancer rates in Fort Chipewyan, about 220 kilometres north of Fort McMurray. A provincial government study released in 2009 confirmed the trend and recommended more analysis into possible causes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/08/19/cancer-oilsands-link_n_931964.html
Concerns were first raised in 2006 about elevated cancer rates in Fort Chipewyan, about 220 kilometres north of Fort McMurray. A provincial government study released in 2009 confirmed the trend and recommended more analysis into possible causes.
Charlie Ventura
Active Member
Are we talking about the Bush oil spill, or the Obama clean up failure?
dukeanthony
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Obama would of had it cleaned up sooner if the Armys secret oil spill task Force was not out of the country
(sarcasm)