Is Gay Marriage Really That Big Deal?
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UncleBuck
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by that logic, you thought long and hard about sucking some big cocks and taking a load of jizz up your poophole, but decided against it at some point.
Padawanbater2
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Whether it's a choice or not is irrelevant. Denying equal protection under the law to someone based on their sexual orientation is against the 14th amendment. What don't you understand about that?
Gay people are citizens, marriage is recognized and protected by law, therefore, marriage between two gay people is protected under the law
Are you against the 14th amendment?
Harrekin
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I'm pretty sure "the Gay" merely seeks equal protection under the law as wing-nuts like you.
Seriously, grow up.
You know what they say when "he doth protest too much" ??
(Read: Youre a secret, repressed homosexual)
OddBall1st
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This is a lie or a person who is gravely mistaken. This person does not mention which law he refers to the 14th. You need to produce the law before you are protected by the 14th.
Again, which law is it that you say is covered by the 14th.
OddBall1st
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Maybe you can come up with that law,...you did mention equal protection under the law is what they seek so, which law ?
Rob Roy
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Marriage is between the people in the marriage, not people that are not in the marriage right?
Why should "government permission" (a license) be part of that equation?
Marriage isn't protected by law, it is RESTRICTED by law to those that have gotten permission from government.
OddBall1st
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Here`s an example of how the 14th works,...You have the Right to keep and bare arms and the 14th says nobody including the Government may infringe upon that Right, it`s Constitutional law. Should you commit a Felony or gun related crime, you committed an act that gives up your right to firearms and you are no longer covered by the 14th.
There is no Constitutional law stating you must marry, therefore it is up to each State to regulate marriages and set guidelines or qualifications. All of these are State matters and the 14th can only be used if these regulations are broken, it does NOT write or approve of anything so only if these stipulations are broken can you refer to the 14th, You cannot use the 14th to write them or approve them but only to enforce them.
If those stipulation say same sex marriages are disqualified from said benefits, and you give same sex marriage the benefits,...you break the law. If the stipulation says same sex marriages are entitled to the benefits and you deny them, you break the law.
Each State has their own qualifications and the 14th ensures what they say is what they do. By nature of what they are(qualifications and stipulations) you can be denied but not discriminated against. Qualifications use discrimination to be met. That`s not a 14th issue.
There is no Constitutional law stating you must marry, therefore it is up to each State to regulate marriages and set guidelines or qualifications. All of these are State matters and the 14th can only be used if these regulations are broken, it does NOT write or approve of anything so only if these stipulations are broken can you refer to the 14th, You cannot use the 14th to write them or approve them but only to enforce them.
If those stipulation say same sex marriages are disqualified from said benefits, and you give same sex marriage the benefits,...you break the law. If the stipulation says same sex marriages are entitled to the benefits and you deny them, you break the law.
Each State has their own qualifications and the 14th ensures what they say is what they do. By nature of what they are(qualifications and stipulations) you can be denied but not discriminated against. Qualifications use discrimination to be met. That`s not a 14th issue.
Rob Roy
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There is a world of freedom outside of the box. Peace.
Padawanbater2
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Which law is it that protects blacks from using the same public services as whites?
OddBall1st
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Your question does not make any sense, ...... Did you mean Which law protects blacks from being denied the same public services as Whites ? The 14th.
If "between man and woman" were not in the qualifications of marriage benefits incentive, the 14th would come to play. But it does so the 14th don`t protect that because it is not a law. Gays want to change the "between man and woman" so under the 14th they can receive those benefits. You cannot use the 14th or the SCOTUS to make those changes. Wall street paid to have that done because of two losses to the People in the proper Courts.
So, you can`t find the law you wish to bring before the 14th ?
Padawanbater2
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The Constitution supersedes every state law, that's why it's still federally illegal to smoke marijuana in a medical state. Do you deny that the federal government has the right to supersede the state?
It clearly states "all citizens", that seems pretty clear to me. Unless you don't believe homosexuals are citizens
Honestly.. I want to see how stupid this gets, each post beats the last. The funny thing is you can replace 'gay' with 'black' in any of his arguments and see as clear as day how stupid it is.. Fun game
OddBall1st
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Say anything but the law you say is brought before the 14th. Still don`t have it yet ? did you misplace it ?
Yes the Constitution does protect all citizens and it`s laws are Nation wide. So about that law, where is it ? I want to read it.
You cannot put Black in place of Gay no matter how hard you try, one is a race and the other is a choice. That choice excludes them from the marriage benefits incentive because it`s between a man and a woman. If Blacks couldn`t get the benefits from the incentive, than you would have a case. Your sexual orientation is not covered by the 14th when it comes to qualifications and stipulations for the marriage benefit incentive because they are not law. Your race is.
So put that with your Black/Gay comparison..........
The law please ? You are going to say everything but the law brought forth before the 14th that puts Gay marriage my equal. If what you feel is the true meaning of the 14th,...than insurance companies could not charge different rates for same services and anyone could join the NFL.
You got it all mixed up. Qualifications are met by discrimination. Stipulations block others. Neither is covered by the 14th.
OddBall1st
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What facts ? What professionals ? What is stopping a person from not being Gay ?
All of your answers will still have no jurisdiction in the SCOTUS or be covered by the 14th because you are addressing a qualification and stipulations none of which are law.