Is Guano tea with molasses enough food for a whole grow?

Hello to all. I plan on starting my first grow with nothing but organics. I will be starting of my seedlings in Fox farm Ocean Forest mixed with perlite. I will water only for the first 3-4 weeks. Then I plan on using a Guano tea with Molasses. Now my question is, is it possible to just feed the plants Tea and have a good grow and harvest? The tea has N-P-K in it and I will be using various types of Guano for Veg and Flowering. Maybe I will use all the Guano types throughout the whole grow. Considering the fact that is the plant gets high phosphate during veg it will induce flowering at an early stage. I will start another thread on this. But for now can someone help me out here please

Mr.Piffy85 said:

Hello to all. I plan on starting my first grow with nothing but organics. I will be starting of my seedlings in Fox farm Ocean Forest mixed with perlite. I will water only for the first 3-4 weeks. Then I plan on using a Guano tea with Molasses. Now my question is, is it possible to just feed the plants Tea and have a good grow and harvest? The tea has N-P-K in it and I will be using various types of Guano for Veg and Flowering. Maybe I will use all the Guano types throughout the whole grow. Considering the fact that is the plant gets high phosphate during veg it will induce flowering at an early stage. I will start another thread on this. But for now can someone help me out here please

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Mr.Piffy85 said:

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I see you guys are looking but no answers. Can some on help me, is Guano tea sufficient enough for a whole grow with out any other fert?

i dunno for sure...i dont think it is enough....the plant dont need high levels of phosphate during veg....it needs nitrogen more than anything to grow big green and lush....the plant must be mature before it will even be ready for flowering....no way to induce flowering the plant before its mature enough to flower.....i personally usea cheapo organic soil with earth juice nutes with a bit of cal/mag...works very well for me....hope this helped in some way.....

can't tell you on the bat guano, but i did something similar with bone meal tea
bone meal/molasses, fed with nothing else, grow went good

sUpReMePaRaNoIa said:

the plant must be mature before it will even be ready for flowering....no way to induce flowering the plant before its mature enough to flower.....

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A plant will mature and start to flower whenever you switch the light's to 12/12. YOU get to choose when that is, and how big the plant is at that point. Not all the time do I see people actually vegging untill they see preflowers, they usually CHOOSE when to flower and wait a week ro 2 after switching the lights to 12/12 to determin sex.

Not sure about your bat guanno... Why is everybody wanting to grow organically all of the sudden? It just seems like it'd be much more of a haslte, and for what? Is the end product really THAT much better to make it worth the troubles?..

I say HELL YES to chemicals! Just flush and your good! SO much easier!..

HookdOnChronics said:

A plant will mature and start to flower whenever you switch the light's to 12/12. YOU get to choose when that is, and how big the plant is at that point. Not all the time do I see people actually vegging untill they see preflowers, they usually CHOOSE when to flower and wait a week ro 2 after switching the lights to 12/12 to determin sex.

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wow....wasnt aware of that....thanks....i was under the impression that the plant wasn't mature until it showed pre-flowers.....at least that was what i was taught...thanks for the info

HookdOnChronics said:

A plant will mature and start to flower whenever you switch the light's to 12/12. YOU get to choose when that is, and how big the plant is at that point. Not all the time do I see people actually vegging untill they see preflowers, they usually CHOOSE when to flower and wait a week ro 2 after switching the lights to 12/12 to determin sex.

Not sure about your bat guanno... Why is everybody wanting to grow organically all of the sudden? It just seems like it'd be much more of a haslte, and for what? Is the end product really THAT much better to make it worth the troubles?..

I say HELL YES to chemicals! Just flush and your good! SO much easier!..

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for me, organic is easier, not saying chemical can't do a fine job
organic usually won't burn, though you can take anything to an extreme
if you're living in a more urban space, chemical may be much more convenient
if you're off in the boonies like me, organic can be easier, plenty of free ingredients

HookdOnChronics said:

... Not sure about your bat guanno... Why is everybody wanting to grow organically all of the sudden? It just seems like it'd be much more of a haslte, and for what? Is the end product really THAT much better to make it worth the troubles?..

I say HELL YES to chemicals! Just flush and your good! SO much easier!..

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That's a VERY good point! That's why I'm doing both. I dont use any chemicals during vegetative growth, and use organics the entire grow.

That's my suggestion for you, man. If your curious as to how it works, you can just check my current grow. I'm 5 weeks into vegging, and you can use my grow to get a first-hand look at how my grow responds to an organic-only vegging.

In my situation, I just happen to have a buddy who owns a Llama, and sheep.(Perfect combination for vegetative shittea)

I think your off to a perfect start. You may want to consider some bloom nutes, tho.

If you'd like to take a look at my grow, it's the clickable link in my sig. ... (Subtles 830W HPS...)

Good luck, man.

sUpReMePaRaNoIa said:

wow....wasnt aware of that....thanks....i was under the impression that the plant wasn't mature until it showed pre-flowers.....at least that was what i was taught...thanks for the info

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Hey no problem man. Yea you can pretty much flower whenever the hell you want to! It really all just depends on how much room you have, how much light you have, and how much bud you want.

But I hear what you guys are saying about growing straight organic! That'd be nice to not have toworry about nute burn pretty much ever! lol, I never have any nute burn problems anymore just from growing expierence. But with the first grow... Let's just say the leaf tips didn't look fantastic... lol, Still came out with some incredible smoke tho!

For me personally using chemicals is just WAY easier. All I have to do is mix a half teaspoon of crystally powder into a gallon milk jug and water away! lol, no having to brew shitteas ect ect. I have both veg and bloom chemical nutes, and during the beginning of flower usually go with a half/half veg/bloom nutrient mix. Only because it has more N that way, with also having the high P for flower. So I get good bud growth and green ass leaves still! lol

I may have to give this organics thing a shot sometime. If I feel like putting forth more effort into my grows... lol

Thanks for the info guys!