Is Happy Frog soil any good?
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hotrodharley
Well-Known Member
Yes it will be fine. Ocean Forest is a little too hot for seedlings and transplants for me anyway.
nah you pay a lot for fox farm, it better be good.
i just found a new soil. its 50% peat moss, perlite and lime stone "to help with ph adjustments"
will let you know how it works on my masterkush i will sow this week
peat is nice like coco, but compacts more than coco over time. gotta try and keep it fluffing while roots are going down
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
lime buffers ph, btw, i've never checked soil ph in me life and never had an issue..
adding nutes lowers ph. they have 5.5 buffers i think. its an attempt to over correct for the over feeding mistakes, they add extra lime stone.
plus its a good mineral for the plant to absorb..so is perlite..any kinda rock really that isnt toxic or radioactive
you treat your soil right. pretty sure i remember that clown face from a seed debate though, so fuck you haha
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
perlite doesn't get absorbed by the plants, it's used simply to make the soil looser and to allow more air to the roots, not as a nutrient to be used by the plants..
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
The lime is insurance against the soil "souring" which it will eventually do, like many peat-based soils. Dolomite lime also confers the benefit of adding magnesium, as ime FFHF is a bit light in that ion for our preferred cultivars. 2/3 cupful of powdered dolomite per bag of HF should do ya, or a tablespoon per gallon.
I've just planted some rooted cuts in last year's Happy Frog (no extra lime), and I will say the soil didn't do well after drying all the way out and being rehydrated. It loses an awful lot of strange black grit when watered now. And it's developed a positive dislike of wetting. My grow last year in fresh HF went wonderfully (although be advised ... about 2 months in it ran out of nutrition all at once, and I supplemented with GH Flora three-part as if running soilless, with good results) but toward the end the soil began beading water and developing cracks/channels which made a thorough watering a bit of a hassle. cn
its a volcanic gas/rock with some nutrient value. mircale grow throws any kind of random shale in their scotts permium..its not bad soil, just not enough peat.
cant wait to try my new suff
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
would you care to tell me how what is basically a rock gets absorbed by a a plant?? if you've ever looked at any old soil that's been used, you will still see huge chunks of perlite in it.. it's not getting absorbed by the plant, christ, usually i don't get into idiotic debates with you, but jesus, perlite is not used by the plants, people only put it in the soil to add oxygen to the root zone, not as a nutrient..of course it does..its an element lmao its a volcanic stone with some nutrient value. mircale grow throws any kind of random shale in their scotts permium..its not bad soil, just not enough peat.
cant wait to try my new suff
how about this, next grow, add only perlite to your grow and only water, and get back to me and let me know how well it went..
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
sorry for the slight hijack op, i usually don't get sucked into a debate with bmeat, i'm done now... sorry for the interruption ....
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Worm castings might be nice, but I would not use Epsom salt except as a sort of RedBull energy shot for a plant displaying definite Mg appetite. I'm not a seasoned organic gardener ... I live better through chemistry.
cn<edit> for a slower Mg release I'd consider langbeinite (a less soluble magnesium potassium sulfate). It's sold as Sul-Po-Mag at garden centers (I use Orchard Supply here in the 'Stan) and makes a nice source of three of the plant's most greedily noshed ions ...
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
i've been adding about a cup or so of worm poo to my ffof and they seem to love the added nitrogen.. also great for making teas out of ime as well..Worm castings might be nice, but I would not use Epsom salt except as a sort of RedBull energy shot for a plant displaying definite Mg appetite. I'm not a seasoned organic gardener ... I live better through chemistry.
i'm with the bear though, not a real big fan of epsom salts as i've seen them cause more issues then they fix.. if anything, i'll use a bit of cal / mag plus liquid during the grow if they look like they could use a boost..