themanwiththeplan
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Is It Legal Federally To Sell Seeds?
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fatboyOGOF
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i remember the good old days when the vast majority of seed breeders actually grew out hundreds of plants over a few generations to find the ones they made seeds from. then came the knockoffs and the knockoffs of knockoffs and the crossing of the knockoffs and crossing the knockoffs of knockoffs.
what a mess!
these are all F2s i made from F1s i bought from the original breeders.
what a mess!
these are all F2s i made from F1s i bought from the original breeders.
Budologist420
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Feminizing seeds has caused the quality of genetics for certain strains to go to shit
watchhowIdoit
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He does not directly dispense his gear from the USA.
watchhowIdoit
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How so??????????
mr. green thumb 01
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TGA has his own lil thing in organics get on there and ask him...he'll answer you.
mr. green thumb 01
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i remember the good old days when the vast majority of seed breeders actually grew out hundreds of plants over a few generations to find the ones they made seeds from. then came the knockoffs and the knockoffs of knockoffs and the crossing of the knockoffs and crossing the knockoffs of knockoffs.
what a mess!
these are all F2s i made from F1s i bought from the original breeders.
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send em on over!
themanwiththeplan
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thats complete bullshit.
feminized beans have NOTHING to do with the quality of the genetics.
Budologist420
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Turning a plant into a hermaphrodite changes the genetics buddy
The hermie trait can and is passed to the offspring
The hermie trait can and is passed to the offspring
themanwiththeplan
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you can't alter a plants genetics by making feminized seeds. either you're:
A) stressing the plant hoping/waiting for it to go hermie.
OR
B) you're using Colloidal Silver to promote male pollen sac growth.
If you go the B route then you're not altering the genetics and the future generation will be no more likely to herm than before the CS was used.
The only people that ruin future generations of feminized beans are the ones who either don't test their potential parents for the hermie trait and stress them for the fem beans.
if you use a hermie prone plant for a parent then future generations will be hermies to a certain extent (mattering how dominant the hermie trait is in that particular line of genetics). if you use a plant that you test (stress) and it doesnt hermie AND you use CS then you will have all fems and little to no hermies.
however i think some of todays "seed breeders" don't test their parents and/or don't use CS. they take short cuts or use light poisoning to get the female to produce pollen sacs but thats the problem right there...the plant already is hermie prone if you can stress it into doing so.
ive grown out fem's and gave em the "stress test" and they stayed 100% female. that would be a good candidate for feminized seed breeding w/o risking a hermie infestation in future generations
watchhowIdoit
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Properly feminized seeds to not turn a plant into a hermi. Nor does making a plant hermi change its genetics. Even female plants from stable regular beans have the capability to produce male flowers. Which most will do naturally if allowed to go past prime ripeness. its natures way of survival. Simply you cannot force a plant to do something that its not already genetically disposed to do.....
themanwiththeplan
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turning a plant into a hermie doesnt change the genetics as it couldnt have went hermie if the hermie trait wasn't present in that line of genetics....which is pretty much my complaint with some breeders: they are using bad genetics that are hermie prone for fems. thats why so many people report hermies w/ bad seed breeders.
Budologist420
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I like coke u guys like Pepsi.
I haven't different views. Most female seeds are massed produced by using colloidal silver or however u spell it. I don't like this way of breeding. How else do people make female seeds guys?
When they turn hermie they can pass the trait genetically.
I haven't different views. Most female seeds are massed produced by using colloidal silver or however u spell it. I don't like this way of breeding. How else do people make female seeds guys?
When they turn hermie they can pass the trait genetically.
watchhowIdoit
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They could not be turned or forced into becoming hermi, whatever method used, if they did not already contain the genetic disposition to begin with. Its not a matter of view point. its a matter of fact...I think I can safely say every single female MJ plant growing has the ability to grow a ball sack..'thats a fact jack'...and where do most ball sacks reside? In jeans......
themanwiththeplan
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Colloidal Silver is (imo) the best way to make feminized seeds. if youre getting hermies from feminized seed then chances are its the breeders methods/parent selection more so than it is the fact that its feminized seed.
ive grown feminized beans almost exclusively for several years. ive only come across hermies w/ one seed breeder that entire time. just one breeder (2-3 of their strains) and thats it.
Ive grown probably 30-40 feminized seeds so thats saying something with only 2-3 of them going hermie.
its the methods/choice of parents. not fem beans.
if you want some impressive fem's to try i'd suggest going with paradise seeds fems. they have some awesome genetics as far as white berry and sensi star go
watchhowIdoit
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One other popular way of producing fem beans if to let the desired female plant ripen past prime until it pops some male flowers to reproduce. Its final effort to pro create and survive. You end up with pollen that shoud produce mainly female off spring and some weed thats stoney ass fuck.
themanwiththeplan
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also true. this is a safe way of doing it too. u just dont want to breed with one that hermies from stress.
i hate it when people say fem beans are likely to hermie...thats only if they get it from a bad source who doesnt know what they're doing.
watchhowIdoit
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I should add 'using female plant from femmed beans is a no-no when it comes to breeding'...unless your trying to produce hermi beans...
themanwiththeplan
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absolutely not true.
watchhowIdoit
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Unless you know the said female is not known to pass on hermi traits, it is true....and with todays many fast to the market hybrids, makes it even more so....