Is it ok to be a pretend christian?

wm2009

wm2009

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Ok, I guess you understand only your favorite color ? :)

Big P said:
this means god is malevolent
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Someone can say humans are often malevolent. No, One that follow step by step the bible will sure not be evil... maybe a very very boring person

Personally I don't believe in God, but why bitching with a girl beliefs... atheism is not a secret.
 
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dpjones

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Big P said:

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
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I'm sure there is something about free will in all this?
 
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Big P

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the free will argument doesnt work, example:


my 1 year old duaghter gets murdered by a 30 year old man who has been given free will to kill her by the lord "all mighty"




my duaghter is dead. what about her free will?? "lord almighty?"



if that actually happend to me and I had the chance to kill god, I would!cuz he would not deserve to live if he has the power not to kill my daughter but chooses to let her die.

last thing I would even think about doing is worship such a vile beast

if god really does exist, I spit on him for letting inoccent children suffer

if it was me who was god and I was all powerful. I would never let any little innocent child suffer

me, a person u dont even know would be a more caring god than the one you worship

pretty fuckin sad when you open you mind and really think about it for yourself
 
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dpjones

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Your daughter died because she was not strong enough to protect herself from the man.

I'm sure she wanted to live but was powerless to stop the murder. The man took her freedom away not god. Wether god should of stopped the man from abusing his free will is another matter.

Imagine for example your daughter was to grow up and be the next hitler?

If there is a flaw in the argument then i think that is it. The daughter thing seems like a loophole and im not really clever enough to figure out why it doesnt work.

Just to add, I'm not a christian. Neither do i worship any god. If i had to be classified, which i dont like doing particularly, I would say im an agnostic.

As someone said earlier anyone who is a pure athiest is just as bad as christians.
 
Big P

Big P

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dpjones said:
Your daughter died because she was not strong enough to protect herself from the man.

I'm sure she wanted to live but was powerless to stop the murder. The man took her freedom away not god. Wether god should of stopped the man from abusing his free will is another matter.

Imagine for example your daughter was to grow up and be the next hitler?

If there is a flaw in the argument then i think that is it. The daughter thing seems like a loophole and im not really clever enough to figure out why it doesnt work.

Just to add, I'm not a christian. Neither do i worship any god. If i had to be classified, which i dont like doing particularly, I would say im an agnostic.

As someone said earlier anyone who is a pure athiest is just as bad as christians.
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good point about the hitler thing but, its like why would god even create a hitler?

if I was god I would make everything peachy keen :hump:
 
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