Is the torch on an iphone enough to disrupt sleep??

Johnny Lawrence

Johnny Lawrence

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PinPin said:
That was actually my point and you were kind of disagreeing with it.

No I did not run any study, it is all based on observation. Please show me a lot of or at least some plants near any road where you think there are ruined by artificial light from cars and/or light poles.

I have a light pole on a street near my house and a big tree. I am also in the middle of a hill so cars coming down hit it close to its canopy with beams all the time. I have the same type of tree on my land away from all these lights. And you know what there is no difference. They grow leaves and drop them at the same time, they grow seeds and drop them at the same time. And this is just about one type of a tree, there are plenty of other small plants including some weed plants and grass directly under the light pole. And still there is no visual difference to the same type of small plants sitting in dark.

And remember about the OP's question about him being scared to use just a torch.
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^ SMH

Wow.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Cr0p420 said:
Question.I need to change bulbs.. Would like to do it while the lights are off and cool so I don't burn my hand off. During this process, would also like to see what I'm doing haha. Think a couple mins of me with the torch of my phone on would wake everyone up ? ?
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wait till 5 mins before lights on. Switch main light off at the power point, turn working light on if you have or turn torch on a change bulb. Turn main light on again and in a minute or so the main light will come on. Stress to girls =0
 
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Sirdankz

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Cr0p420 said:
Question.I need to change bulbs.. Would like to do it while the lights are off and cool so I don't burn my hand off. During this process, would also like to see what I'm doing haha. Think a couple mins of me with the torch of my phone on would wake everyone up ? ?
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Are you spongebob ? When the lights go out just keep another light on and do what you gotta do. Just dont be in there with the light on for a long time.
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Lucky Luke said:
wait till 5 mins before lights on. Switch main light off at the power point, turn working light on if you have or turn torch on a change bulb. Turn main light on again and in a minute or so the main light will come on. Stress to girls =0
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If that guy cant work out how to change a bulb he shouldnt be growing weed.

The process you described only a dumbass couldnt think of.

I would say how many growers does it take to change a lightbulb but its lost on that guy :-)
 
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Budget Buds

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Good question, I haven't heard what the minimum amount of light it takes to disrupt the cycle other then more light then a full moon. The best I can contribute is that I took a lux meter and measured a full moon and it was between 50-80 lux. I have flipped a light on for a second or two before and never had any issues, But I would be cautious
 
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PinPin

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Budget Buds said:
Good question, I haven't heard what the minimum amount of light it takes to disrupt the cycle other then more light then a full moon. The best I can contribute is that I took a lux meter and measured a full moon and it was between 50-80 lux.
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That's the good way to prove some wrong. I have a 5W LED torch, which should be much more than a torch in iphone. With 20cm distance from a meter probe it shows only 15 lux. And that's for a focused torch beam. If it is unfocused it is about 1.5 lux.

I can do that with a pole and car beams but I can guess the numbers will be really still very low and that's why I was talking about plants growing on a side of a road as good as in the dark. At least not to a point of a human noticing any difference.
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Budget Buds said:
Good question, I haven't heard what the minimum amount of light it takes to disrupt the cycle other then more light then a full moon. The best I can contribute is that I took a lux meter and measured a full moon and it was between 50-80 lux. I have flipped a light on for a second or two before and never had any issues, But I would be cautious
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I light leak, turn on lights, vary dark hours... literally the whole nine yards and still nothing but normal budding.

Years of them never stressing has made ome lazy grower out of me here :-)
 
grilledcheese101

grilledcheese101

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Kingrow1 said:
I light leak, turn on lights, vary dark hours... literally the whole nine yards and still nothing but normal budding.

Years of them never stressing has made ome lazy grower out of me here :-)
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Agreed. Thinking this hard should be reserved for things that actually matter lol. Your cellphone light isnt gonna cause stress to the point of herming a plant unless you have garbage genetics (more than likely bound to happen regardless)

Imagine everytime you had a campfire all the trees turned gay or something. Lol.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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PinPin said:
That's the good way to prove some wrong. I have a 5W LED torch, which should be much more than a torch in iphone. With 20cm distance from a meter probe it shows only 15 lux. And that's for a focused torch beam. If it is unfocused it is about 1.5 lux.

I can do that with a pole and car beams but I can guess the numbers will be really still very low and that's why I was talking about plants growing on a side of a road as good as in the dark. At least not to a point of a human noticing any difference.
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Cannabis plants growing on a side of a road would flower late (if at all if near a street light) and have a high % of hermies.
 
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PinPin

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Lucky Luke said:
Cannabis plants growing on a side of a road would flower late (if at all if near a street light) and have a high % of hermies.
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I have never seen it growing on a side of a road :-) If I had seen it nobody else would have seen it after me.
No it was in general about all plants.

But once again check how intense car beams are from a distance or a light from 4-8m tall light pole. It is not intense at all and in fact it is very weak. I can try mine in a few hours say 2-3 meters distance from a car with high beam on. I can do the same with a pole next to my house.
And just to stop this silly argument, we were talking about a torch used for a short time, not hitting our precious plants with light poles/car beames sitting next to them for a long time.

I frequently open my cabinet with fluorescent lights running on outside of it to check them or to water. None of them turn into hermies yet. And sometimes I use a 5W torch on them in addition to the lights outside. No drama again.

I am not saying that you can turn your grow lights on and do the same without consequences.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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PinPin said:
I have never seen it growing on a side of a road :-) If I had seen it nobody else would have seen it after me.
No it was in general about all plants.

But once again check how intense car beams are from a distance or a light from 4-8m tall light pole. It is not intense at all and in fact it is very weak. I can try mine in a few hours say 2-3 meters distance from a car with high beam on. I can do the same with a pole next to my house.
And just to stop this silly argument, we were talking about a torch used for a short time, not hitting our precious plants with light poles/car beames sitting next to them for a long time.

I frequently open my cabinet with fluorescent lights running on outside of it to check them or to water. None of them turn into hermies yet. And sometimes I use a 5W torch on them in addition to the lights outside. No drama again.

I am not saying that you can turn your grow lights on and do the same without consequences.
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you haven't been to India then! Even my state in aussie has hemp paddocks on the side of the road.
When talking lighting on a photoperiod plant you have to be 100% accurate as people who don't know better may take it as gospel is all. There is a reason the outdoor guys use extension leads and lights on poles in Spring for...
 
HappyxFace

HappyxFace

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its dark for a reason. keep it that way guys. dont be saying it okay to use white light on sleeping plants to people. thats bad information. get a green light or buy a max min. its not rocket science. enjoy guys. thanks
 
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Cr0p420

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Why do people look at the question so negatively and point at my intelligence .

Forums like these are meant for questions and answer. No matter how dumb you may think they are. If you don't like the question , move on . No need for negativity in any community.

I wasn't sure about light exposure, so I asked a question.

Try to have a better day !
 
TurboTokes

TurboTokes

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light leaks do cause herms so i choose not to "stress the plant" and if i want to do work in the dark i go in just after lights off or just before lights on unless its an emergency
 
rob333

rob333

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TurboTokes said:
light leaks do cause herms so i choose not to "stress the plant" and if i want to do work in the dark i go in just after lights off or just before lights on unless its an emergency
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light does cause hermie only if the seed has that genetic trait it comes down to genetics sorry to say if u have a female clone i have forgot to turn lights off no issues also on 100% femmed seeds but if they have the genetic in them light will cause them to hermie btw street lights are to far away to harm the plant and only run at 150w
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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Cr0p420 said:
Why do people look at the question so negatively and point at my intelligence .

Forums like these are meant for questions and answer. No matter how dumb you may think they are. If you don't like the question , move on . No need for negativity in any community.

I wasn't sure about light exposure, so I asked a question.

Try to have a better day !
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I owe you no answer and its a forum of growers not Q and fucking A.

:-)
 
Kingrow1

Kingrow1

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rob333 said:
light does cause hermie only if the seed has that genetic trait it comes down to genetics sorry to say if u have a female clone i have forgot to turn lights off no issues also on 100% femmed seeds but if they have the genetic in them light will cause them to hermie btw street lights are to far away to harm the plant and only run at 150w
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Hermie genetics = Broscience

Stop spreading it :-)
 
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