I know you will probably leave without learning anything, despite sincere efforts to help you, but I just wanted to say thanks for this post. It's the cutest thing I've ever read in here. 100% squee.So the entire LED field is bogus? I mean, that's been the entire premise of LED: producing an equal amount of light for a fraction of the amount of power.
If what you say is true, then the entire LED and Compact Florescent industries are lying.
This guy recommends Mars because of their barbecues. I, personally, would disregard. I use two ViparSpectra V450s to great effect. Check my journal, ifyou'd like.I know you will probably leave without learning anything, despite sincere efforts to help you, but I just wanted to say thanks for this post. It's the cutest thing I've ever read in here. 100% squee.
No amount of bending space and time is going to allow a 136W light to replace a 250W HPS. That's a lie, I don't care about the rest. I'm sure it works fine or whatever. But they are a dishonest company, full stop.This guy recommends Mars because of their barbecues. I, personally, would disregard. I use two ViparSpectra V450s to great effect. Check my journal, ifyou'd like.
Also, you're dumb. I know a 78w COB (Tasty T1-2100) that puts out 60 more micromols than my 450w (206 drawn watts). If what you say is true, all lights use wattage the same way, and they don't, otherwise a 78w COB would not put out 60 more micromols at 24" (480 mmols) vs my 206w draw. It's called efficiency. By the way, a 400w HPS only puts out 127.No amount of bending space and time is going to allow a 136W light to replace a 250W HPS. That's a lie, I don't care about the rest. I'm sure it works fine or whatever. But they are a dishonest company, full stop.
Actually, probably one dishonest guy who ships from Alibaba to Amazon. "Company" is probably being generous.
And you forgot the New Years party!
Donnie, meet the element you are out of. I have zero problem with you, but you really shouldn't be in this conversation and using numbers. Calling me dumb was not very nice, either, but especially ill-advised considering the amount of talking your ass is doing right now.Also, you're dumb. I know a 78w COB (Tasty T1-2100) that puts out 60 more micromols than my 450w (206 drawn watts). If what you say is true, all lights use wattage the same way, and they don't, otherwise a 78w COB would not put out 60 more micromols at 24" (480 mmols) vs my 206w draw. It's called efficiency. By the way, a 400w HPS only puts out 127.
I guess calling you dumb wasn't very nice. I apologize for that. Definitely not talking out my ass, though.Donnie, meet the element you are out of. I have zero problem with you, but you really shouldn't be in this conversation and using numbers. Calling me dumb was not very nice, either, but especially ill-advised considering the amount of talking your ass is doing right now.
Anyway, peace brother.
Show me.@Olive Drab Green https://www.rollitup.org/t/is-the-viparspectra-reflector-series-300w-led-decent.918299/page-2#post-12879773
Let's start there and work through it. Maybe my math is wrong. But I welcome you to join in the conversation.
We can also talk PPF and umols/J if you prefer. The answer is the same either way...total bullpucky.
Only to somebody who has never done and/or understood the actual numbers. Here's a hint: your light doesn't make 200lm/W. It also doesn't make 3+ umols/J. No light does. Well, maybe @REALSTYLES has broken that barrier.Again, your argument that 136w can't compare to the power of a 250w less efficient light technology has been debunked. Let's move on.
No, seriously. You didn't even prove anything. All you did was state your disagreement. You did prove you don't understand efficiency and progressing technology. 250w HPS has less PAR wattage than a 300w LED that draws 136w.Only to somebody who has never done and/or understood the actual numbers. Here's a hint: your light doesn't make 200lm/W. It also doesn't make 3+ umols/J. No light does. Well, maybe @REALSTYLES has broken that barrier.
The only thing we've debunked is the myth that you understand these numbers, which I tried to correct, unsuccessfully. I don't know if it's your pride or my abrasive personality. But boy are you on the wrong side of this one.
Granted, I am almost neurotic about finding and telling the truth, but some people just need to win a fucking argument.
Honestly, it's not dick swinging. The truth matters, otherwise more people will throw good money at bad companies.Where's the button for unfollowing boring dick swinging arguments??
I'm not here to swing dick none the least. I used to run burple lights so I do know what I'm talking about no dick swining hereWhere's the button for unfollowing boring dick swinging arguments??