Is the World Flat? The Flatlander's theory..

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Cannacat

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Want to see other examples where intuitive thinking interferes with analytical thinking?

Here are four questions, none of which are difficult to answer. The point is that your brain will supply you with a knee-jerk intuitive answer that upon further reflection will turn out to be wrong. (of course this will happen less now that I have warned you, but it will still happen).


A bat and a ball cost $1.10 in total. The bat costs $1 more than the ball. How much does the ball cost?

If it takes five machines five minutes to make five widgets, how long does it take 100 machines to make 100 widgets?

In a lake, there is a patch of lily pads. Every day, the patch doubles in size. If it takes 48 days for the patch to cover the entire lake, how long would it take for the patch to cover half of the lake?

You are in a race and you pass the person in second place. Which place are you now in?


These aren't examples of specific biases, these are just examples of system 1 thinking (intuition) interfering with system 2 (careful analysis).
Can't believe I missed one!
1. I want to say 10c but I'm sure it's wrong.
2. 5 minutes
3. 47 days
4. 2nd place

Am I clever yet??
 

Mellowman2112

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What are you trying to prove/disprove here?

Try the same experiment inside a cabin on a moving boat. Or on a bus. Or in a plane. Or in a train. Or in your mom's car. What separates all those test conditions from the conditions when riding a bike outside?



We're talking about this video you posted:



One last time - is this video legitimate?
This video which was taken at 128000 feet, closely resembles the bs space station footage we see. It was obviously taken with a fish eye lense. Yet, the earth should be spinning below it. You can see for a moment at the beginning the normal cam from inside the pod, shows the perfectly flat horizon. The footage is real but the use of the fisheye lense on the outer camera is an attempt to propagate the ball earth baloney.
 

Mellowman2112

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So, because you are hated, this is proof to you that you are making a difference and getting through to people? Do you think it's possible that people hate you for other reasons, and you are deceiving yourself that it is because you are a great teacher?
I don;t believe I am hated. Just that people hate facing a conflicting reality. I never claimed to be a great teacher. Quite making shit up.
 

SunnyJim

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That the baloon would not move along with the earth.
So if I'm following, you don't understand why the balloon appears stationary relative to the Earth below it, and therefore this video further proves the Earth isn't rotating?

This video which was taken at 128000 feet, closely resembles the bs space station footage we see. It was obviously taken with a fish eye lense. Yet, the earth should be spinning below it. You can see for a moment at the beginning the normal cam from inside the pod, shows the perfectly flat horizon. The footage is real but the use of the fisheye lense on the outer camera is an attempt propagate the ball earth baloney.
So they're happy to doctor part of the video by using a fish eye lens, but they've forgotten about the Earth below appearing stationary?
 

Cannacat

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Yep. They're not hard to answer, given the chance. But when we add a clock and give students only one minute per problem, we get these results.

"MIT students average a little over 2 questions right, and the full sample in the study, consisting mostly of college students, averaged a little over 1 question right."

"Among all the possible wrong answers people could give, the posited intuitive answers (10, 100 and 24) dominate. Second, even among those responding correctly, the wrong answer was often considered first, as is apparent from introspection, verbal reports and scribbles in the margin (for example, 10 cents was often crossed out next to 5 cents, but never the other way around). Third, when asked to judge problem difficulty respondents who missed the problems thought they were easier than the respondents who solved them."

http://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/wp-content/uploads/Shane-Frederick-Cognitive-Reflection-and-Decision-Making.pdf
Please explain why it's 5 cents, my unreliable logic is telling me that if it comes to 1.10 altogether and the bat costs a dollar more, then the ball should be 10 cents? You might have answered this further on, if so I'll find it in a sec so just ignore me :bigjoint:
 

Mellowman2112

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So if I'm following, you don't understand why the balloon appears stationary relative to the Earth below it, and therefore this video further proves the Earth isn't rotating?



So they're happy to doctor part of the video by using a fish eye lens, but they've forgotten about the Earth below appearing stationary?
It was overlooked. People don't think about shit like this normally while they are laying on the couch watching the idiot tube.
 

tyler.durden

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I don;t believe I am hated. Just that people hate facing a conflicting reality. I never claimed to be a great teacher. Quite making shit up.
That must be comforting. It must be nice to believe things based on what you like despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Like your faith in christianity. Do you accomplish your goals irl?
 

Mellowman2112

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you would of done much better if you actually had any facts.. not youtube from non credible sources. oh and the whole thing about you wanting hitlers penis in your mouth., that brought you down quite a few pegs
Hi. Please name a credible source, a source approved for your consideration.

Any politician who actually does anything for his people and not special interests gets vilified. Don't be so naive.
 

Mellowman2112

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That must be comforting. It must be nice to believe things based on what you like despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Like your faith in christianity. Do you accomplish your goals irl?
You see the problem here, you always claim overwhelming evidence but you never show it.
 

Mellowman2112

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So if I'm following, you don't understand why the balloon appears stationary relative to the Earth below it, and therefore this video further proves the Earth isn't rotating?



So they're happy to doctor part of the video by using a fish eye lens, but they've forgotten about the Earth below appearing stationary?
It does appear stationary relative to the earth because it is. The experiment proves that.
 

srh88

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Hi. Please name a credible source, a source approved for your consideration.

Any politician who actually does anything for his people and not special interests gets vilified. Don't be so naive.
who said anything about a politician?.. how about something you didnt find on youtube, and preferably written or made up by somebody with some actual degrees that are related to the topic. not people who make shitty youtube videos and know what they are saying is so insane they wont even put their name on it
 

Mellowman2112

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who said anything about a politician?.. how about something you didnt find on youtube, and preferably written or made up by somebody with some actual degrees that are related to the topic. not people who make shitty youtube videos and know what they are saying is so insane they wont even put their name on it
So if someone with a PHD makes a youtube video you would accept that right?
 

Cannacat

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I've just had to skip about 10 pages to get caught up or I'd have been there all night. Where the fuck have I been for 10 days?? Anyway, glad to see everyone's still here and I can't have missed much in those 10 pages cos it looks like we're still having the same conversation.
 

Mellowman2112

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who said anything about a politician?.. how about something you didnt find on youtube, and preferably written or made up by somebody with some actual degrees that are related to the topic. not people who make shitty youtube videos and know what they are saying is so insane they wont even put their name on it
Who said anything about politician? You did, you made a reference to Adolf Hitler, a politician.
 
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