SunnyJim
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London - NYC was shorter. 3 hours and change if memory serves.
Is the World Flat? The Flatlander's theory..
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cat of curiosity
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he's never flown super sonic. that would have involved gravity, which doesn't exist for him...
Unclebaldrick
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mmm, good food.
Mellowman2112
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Uh, don't you mean the taxpayers expense?
cat of curiosity
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uh, don't you think diplomats and consulate are paid a salary?
or are they flat and do it for free?
don't worry, one day you'll be old enough to get a job too...
reddan1981
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You are attempting to label someone, that has a different opinion to you.You assume that your opinion is the correct one. Desperate to win this exchange you are then dishonest about your intention. This also displays narcissistic tendencies.
I would love to hear more about evolution of consciousness from you.....
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primabudda
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^^ high
tyler.durden
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The shape of our planet is not a matter of opinion, it is a fact regardless if one chooses to acknowledge it. One side is completely correct, and the other completely incorrect...
What is his intention? Did he state it, or is this another presumption on your part?
The only book I've read on the subject is amazing. 'The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind' by Dr. Julian Jaynes of Princeton University. He demonstrates the evolution of consciousness on a timeline through human history, it's fucking fascinating. It's a huge read, but so worth it. I've read it several times...
https://www.amazon.com/Origin-Consciousness-Breakdown-Bicameral-Mind/dp/0618057072
tyler.durden
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Is your own identity so shitty that you feel the need to cycle through other members' avatars? You suck, shitliner. Get banned again, already...
primabudda
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i'm going to read this, you don't mind ? nah thought not.
reddan1981
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Still qualified to state what is actually true?
Heisenberg implied intention when he commented. He wouldn't of given his 'assessment' on what he believes is the inferior position, otherwise.
If, I am wrong.... Meh.
How does Dr. JulianJaynes of Princeton University, demonstrate evolution of consciousness?
Do you agree with the evolution of consciousness theory?
Do you agree with Dr. JulianJaynes, that men at one point had no original thought, that the voices in mans head was that of God's?
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tyler.durden
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He showed up to illustrate the tactics of a sea lion, then pointed out your presumptions of his position and the uselessness of debating you. How was he being dishonest?
Right. Gotta be used to that by now...
It's a LONG explanation that you can read about from the amazon reviews via the link I posted. Basically, he presents evidence and grand arguments regarding the absence of consciousness in humans early on, and shows that it is something that needs to be learned, it is not innate. He shows how language had to be developed that was sophisticated enough to generate metaphor and analog models in order for consciousness to arise. You can see consciousness develop through the writings and rituals of each culture through time. I've never perused the amazon reviews before posting that link to his book, but having read through them since, many are very good and go into great detail...
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Heisenberg
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You seem quite fond of assigning labels yourself...
Let's not pretend you are here for some sort of civil discourse. You are here to validate your own views, and your mind is only equipped to insult and denigrate other's views rather than support your own. Fortunately for you, a mind that is willing to abuse others is also a mind that sees that abuse as some sort of victory, thus giving you the feeling of validation you seek.
Denialism is not debate. The proper way to engage a denialist is not to confront his/her arguments thereby giving them a platform to spout their rhetoric. If we are to engage at all, it's to call out the steps in their denialist song-and-dance routine. Denialists have no actual arguments to offer, and so they are left with a handful of tactics and persuasion techniques which makes all denialism look essentially the same no matter the topic. The hope is that those participating in the discussion will eventually learn to distinguish denialism from actual discourse. And, invariably, when this is done, the denialist will cry foul and try their best to steer the conversation back to their rhetoric, just as you have done.
The denialist doesn't need cogent arguments. They are not bothered by flaws in their logic or holes in their education. They place no value on peer review. To them, their denialism feels like debate. What they need is someone to oppose them so that they can shoot them down and feel superior, and it doesn't matter if what you say is scientifically valid or just sounds like Charlie Brown's teacher, they will find a way to jerk off to it. It's a form of mental masturbation that requires a partner, and climax can be reached without the need for any intelligent exchange. As is demonstrated here, abusive name calling and foul language will get them off just fine, as will psychobabble gibberish about velocity and mass. To them it feels the same as if they've actually proved you wrong.
claypipe69
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Rule noice I wonder how fick dis flat fing is? is it like a pancake nice an fin or fick as a brick ? spose will never no cus narone can say. I fink we should roll another 
an chill an roll
on to the
Ahhh it makes on sense ? That makes it clear as
MUD amother is required
as the smoke clears a profound 
comes to mind we are all aliens an just beg to differ on this pointless subject.
I wait in anticipation for it all become clear an the mushrooms were where wear off 
an chill an rollon to the Ahhh it makes on sense ? That makes it clear as
MUD amother is required as the smoke clears a profound comes to mind we are all aliens an just beg to differ on this pointless subject. I wait in anticipation for it all become clear
an the mushrooms were where wear off claypipe69
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My pet Rat loves eating garlic
reddan1981
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Tautology.
I have stated many times throughout this thread that my position here is that of devil's advocate. You have cherry-picked quotes and misrepresented them. You are dishonest and you are replying out of ego.
I have reiterated experiments that prove no curvature, please enlighten me to experimentation that proves the contrary or you have nothing to add but sophistry.
tyler.durden
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Mellowman2112
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This $#$#%^ was boasting how his family took several trips at around 24000 dollars per seat at taxpayer expense, bilked from his impoverished country of Algeria. SICKENING!!
Mellowman2112
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No innate consciousness? What a sad world you live in. You believe everything came from nothing, the billions of stars and planets came from nothing, a mysterious explosion that instead of destroying creates everything, that we somehow from green slime became cells, then fish with feet then monkeys. that we are an insignificant grain of sand from a beach of trillions of galaxies that of course came from nothing. So yolo right? Fuck everybody because there is no god.
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