On the feed schedule General Organics includes a note to not adjust the ph. Is there something wrong with your plants that is making you think the ph has to be adjusted?
is there a Organic ph up or down? i am using bio thrive and dont want chemicals
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Themistic
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finally someone that actually uses g.o. so you do not adjust sounds simple but if u ever looked at the ph it down at like 4.3 and u use soil??? im growing with a top feed drip system and my leaves a starting some brown spots i use calmg to so im going to stop using it to see if it is to nmuch calcium
Themistic
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yes i have little brown spots circles not blotches. i use cal mg along with the b.o. grow and i use hydrozyme from growtekk well optimum has a humex and fulvex but growteks hydrozym is way better than humex cuz its 100% organic and it has alot of great things in it.
for the past i was using thegeneral hydropnics trio chems along with hydrozymme(growtek) Fulvex (optimum) B1(optimum) Carbomax(growtek)Overdrive(advanced nutes) and it worked awesome i didnt want to change ever but since general organics said works well in hydro systems i thought that organic would be worth a try but now i cannot use my full line up of products and now everything is new. and i am starting to have new problems on plants i never seen before.
Beeb Beebman
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Pretty much this. My plants are on day 11 of flowering. I've been using the entire GO line along with RO water and not once even checked my ph. My plants are in a 50/50 mix of FF OF and Roots Organic and they look great.
322special
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I dont use just any vineg 
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Wolverine97
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Once again guys, don't pH General Organics.
Wolverine97
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Yes, I'm aware of how low it starts. It doesn't matter, provided that you have a healthy living soil (that is a must). Just mix and feed, it doesn't get much simpler than that. I've been using it for two years with great results. And if anything, their calmag is a little weak so you need to keep that in there...
+ WitchDoctor +
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Yea, this is good advice. I know it sounds crazy not to worry about your pH, when pH is so very important with chemical or organic-based nutrients, but you don't need to adjust it.
I'll admit, I do bring my pH down a little bit with .5 tsp of lemon juice when I'm just watering, but I only do this because my tap water has a pH of over 8.5. And this may be a wasted step anyways. When I've mixed nutrients, the pH gets as low as 4, and I've never done anything to bring it up either.
And I agree you should keep the calmag in there as well, I use at least a tsp per gallon with almost every watering.
Themistic
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i dont use soil tho to buff,but i am going to take your advice and not ph it. and another thing you think you have to use the whole line??maybe they buff out when all mixed.....no? i am just using the bio grow and calmag with hydrozymme
Wolverine97
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What medium are you growing in? If it isn't living soil, then my advice about not pH-ing it may be erroneous. I've never tried it in straight soil-less, or hydro.
InfidelUniversity
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Themistic- Your definition for organic would exclude Bio Thrive and tap water. There are more heavy metals in that bottle of Bio Thrive than any hydro base nutes, so i wouldn't worry about it...........
neonknight420
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I only use Earth Juice natural up and down. It's 100% organic.
dvs1038
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Hey for anyone in so.cal area or where ever you are check out kangen/ionized water its this filter kinda like a britta filter only alot better it actually allows you to control the ph level of ur water so it could pump out 5.5ph or whatever ph level ur lookin for without any chemicals but its hella expensive, but if u can get it for free other ways just gotta check around easier for me cause I live in so.cal. But its an interesting and expensive thought for ph control without having to add anything to the water now idk the effect of ionized water on herb if there are any at all.
personal lux
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you would be stupid to ph you general organics line at all. stop now.
personal lux
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general organics in my opinion is general hydroponics verson of Advanced nutrients PH perfect technologies. its buffered in the soil by microbes (be theyre some synthetic or not).
foreverflyhi
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Lowering or raising water ph KILLs MICRO HERDS!!! Theres a reason why orgaincs naturally lowers ph, and thats because thats where it thrives. Messing with water ph in organics is pointless and might as well use synthetics.
its all in the soil, keep soil ph around 7.0 and no matter what nutrient the plants are watered with will b buffered.
its all in the soil
its all in the soil, keep soil ph around 7.0 and no matter what nutrient the plants are watered with will b buffered.
its all in the soil
almerrick1222
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my goodness there is a lot of confusion. if you add vinegar, lemon juice, baking soda, whatever it will solve you ph..for the moment. you are basically procrastinating a larger problem. what you should do is get some oyster shells. that will last a while. if you need calcium right now foliar spray a water and molasses mix (blackstrap is a good source of calcium), or boil down some egg shells 1/4 a cup per gallon. if you need magnesium i suggest using better vermicompost in your next grow, but for now for some epsom salts or sul-po-mag. calcium and magnesium are the major components in buffering the pH of your soil. not saying that trace minerals aren't important, but you got to get down the two key ones first. good luck on ya.
AliCakes
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Chemical pH and drastic changes are bad for the soil web, but we want the pH to be within a certain range.
If I need to drop the pH of an existing planting, I add raw apple cider vinegar or more lacto culture to my water. Sulfur can also be used to lower pH and this is my preferred method when starting a bed outside - our local soil is quite alkaline.
Rock dusts will raise your pH. I have not had to do this, but would probably just sprinkle it on top and water it in. Remember, in organic gardening, we feed the soil instead of the plant. When our soil is well balanced, very little pH adjusting will be necessary.
If I need to drop the pH of an existing planting, I add raw apple cider vinegar or more lacto culture to my water. Sulfur can also be used to lower pH and this is my preferred method when starting a bed outside - our local soil is quite alkaline.
Rock dusts will raise your pH. I have not had to do this, but would probably just sprinkle it on top and water it in. Remember, in organic gardening, we feed the soil instead of the plant. When our soil is well balanced, very little pH adjusting will be necessary.