Is this the real skywalker og!!!!!! please help

gweddo6868

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So about a year ago was watching cops and they pulled this kid over do a search find the duffel bag cop pulls out a few bags of starbucks coffee and then a jar saying skywalker comes out and them buds look dank as fuck i knew then i wanted to try and grow it. To bad for me i live in michigan far from cali where u hear about this i ordered this http://www.worldwide-marijuana-seeds...walker-og-kush please somebody tell me if i have the real deal.


i've already started the seed and intend to grow this on a aeroponic table in the next two months.
 

gweddo6868

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i found this I like this story;
Story #1:
OG Kush (the original cut) came from an S1 from in a bag of '91 Chemdawg in the Lake Tahoe area in 1996.

Story #2: (by Kailua kid from sierra seeds

In late '93 John from Grass Valley Ca. got the Chem Dog cut. He shared it with me, Jerry(cowboy) from Dibble Creek Ca. and Harold(Putz) from Sunset Beach Ca. Putz had a male he called the secret ingredient. It was a cross of Lemon Thai and an Old World Paki Kush. Putz bred the secret ingredient to the Chem Dog. The buds that came out of this cross were going around So. L.A. county in '95. Someone told Putz that Kush must be so good because it was mountain grown. Putz laughed and told him "this Kush is Ocean Grown Kush bro". The tag stuck and it became known as OG Kush. In the spring of '96 Putz married a girl from New Zealand. Before moving there he sent cuts of his OG to me and Bob(beans) in Salinas Ca. He gave all his P1 stock and all the remaining seed he had to Mike(mad dog) from Downey Ca. In late '96 Mike sold some seed to some guys in the Valley. That's where the San Fernando Valley cut of OG comes from. It's like the Original only more sat in pheno type. Mike sold a cut of the original to a guy in Orange county and that cut is called Larry today. It's still around Orange county. Mike sent one other cut of the original OG to a breeder in Europe. As far as I know he never let anyone else have it.
Jerry bred his Chem Dog cut to a Humboldt county indica boy. This was the beginning of his cubing proccess. At BX3 he got a pheno that had all the smell, taste and kick of the Chem Dog, but in a pure indica pheno. Jerry gave this plant to Bob. It became known as the West Coast Dog.
Bob bred this plant to my Old World Kush male. He took a male from that cross and bred it to the OG cut Putz had sent him. This is what made the original Bubba.

Lineage: ChemDawg x [Lemon Thai x Old World Paki Kush]

Info on the different cuttings of OG Kush:

* Tahoe: cut brough into the community by Swerve. The grower that Swerve got it from had sourced the cut in the Lake Tahoe area in the 90's.
* Larry: The Orange County Larry cut that is availble in the medical scene came from the same Orange County crew that the H.A O.G Kush came from
* SFV: There are a million O.G cuts grown in the S.F.V, however the cut that goes by this name on these forums and in medical disp. came from forum member Swerve
* Ghost: This cut came from ORGNKID, ORGNKID had sold a O.G cut to a Overgrow forum member named "Ghost" who further distributed the cut.
* Tripple OG: This cut came from ORGNKID. This cut is A.K.A Triple X/XXX O.G Kush. Triple O.G was popularly sold to medical patients by the now defunct C.A.L.M disp. of Malibu.
* Abusive: This cut was brought into the community by an overgrow member named "Abusive", believe it or not Abusive claimed to have got the cut through the rapper Snoop Dogg.
* SAC#2: Cut brought into the scene by forum member O.Gkushman, O.Gkushman got the cut from DJ Muggs.
* P.R OG A.K.A Private Reserve O.G: Another O.G cut that ORGNKID brought into the scene. The cut was sold to Med patients as Private Reserve O.G through the now defunct C.A.L.M disp. of Malibu.
* Apothecary: O.G cut brought into the scene by the apothecary seed co's Brett. Brett got it from a high profile Medical MJ activist in L.A back in 1999
* Diablo: This = cut came from the R.D.C disp. In the San Fernando Valley
* Raskal's OG: Another cut sourced in the San Fernando Valley. Cut was bought for several thousand dollers from ******* ***** members by a friends of forum member OGraskal
* HA OG: Cut came from an commercial H.A room in Orange County, grown by the same crew that brought the Orange County Larry cut into the medical Disp.
* Poison OG: Cut came from O.Gkushman, he grew it from seed found in a pound of O.G back in ‘96
* SAC#1 & SAC#3: #1 came from G-Thumb in the San Fernando Valley, #3 came from San Fernando Valley but is very popular in Santa Barbara and sometimes goes by the name “Purple O.G Kush”, the cut was brought into the scene by the owner of the now defunct Hortipharm in Santa Barbara
 

gweddo6868

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Heres a story on Chemdog;Aka: Chemdawg
Breeder: Chemdog

Heritage (no serious source known):
Speculation 1: unknown indica strain (Kush, HP or NL?)
Speculation 2: Nepali x Thai

At a Grateful Dead show at Deer Creek Amphitheatre, joebrand (aka wonkanobe) and pbud met chemdog and sold him an ounce of very high quality pot for $500. Joe and Chemdog exchanged numbers and they later arranged for two ounces to be shipped to chemdog on the east coast. According to chemdog, one ounce was seedless and the other had 13 seeds.

In ’91, chemdog popped the first 4 seeds. From these seeds, one male was found and disposed of (chemdog was young, you can’t blame him). The 3 females were labeled "chemdawg" (now '91 chemdawg), "chemdawg a" (now chemdawg's sister), and "chemdawg b". In 2001, chemdog and his girlfriend attempted to germ 3 more seeds, labeled "c", "d", and "e". the "e" seed never germinated, "c" turned out to be junk (according to chemdog), and chemdawg "d" was the keeper. In 2006, chemdog and joebrand reunited and joe was given 4 of the last 6 beans: Chemdawg phenos 1-4, "4" being the chosen keeper. Joe thought the "4" was the best representation of the original and thus dubbed it the "reunion pheno". Chemdog still has two seeds left in his stash.​
 

gweddo6868

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My friend goes back to the cypress hill connect with b real. Unfortunately closest clones from him are northern California. I'm in the los Angeles area and may have another lead but its from people I don't know very well. I believe they have it but its kept on lock and I'm not sure they would let me run it right away. I think I have access to a sfv variant easily enough. More indica and prone to pm and not the 3 blade w/ 1 curly.
Do you have clones in the downtown area? Its been a long time since I've done a run and I want to do hempy Pepsi bottles. I've gathered everything for a solid start and just need genetics. I've seen a lot that reminds me of early 1980s and late 1980s but not much of the cock diesel we had in nyc around 91. I know guys that were sog growing it back then me included. Ok well I'm just putting it out there again. Still looking for the real thing.
 

gweddo6868

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When you posted this, first thing that ran through my mind was, "I wonder if he's talking about Luke aka Ron." After speaking with Luke/Ron last night, we decided to out his real name, to help shed some light on the reality of who is saying what and claiming to be who, regarding this strain. Luke Skywalker's real name is Ron Cabrera and this is what he had to say about your post.


"There's really no way to tell which came first. My best research indicates they may have all came at the same time from Chemdog bag seed. So, I maintain Skywalker is the most Sativa OG, and is superior in that regard to Herowana [sp?] and that Herowana was more widely dispersed from the beginning, and the OG line that became Skywalker was always more sequestered, and perhaps that could create the impression that Herowana came first simply because no one knew there were different OGs, let alone the Skywalker which was not named until years later. In fact, in the time frame of which we're speaking Herowana didn't even have its name yet. So to say it [Herowana] came first just points out that the more prevalent, higher Indica content OG we all had in the past, we are all just now saying, 'that was the Herowana,' it had no name back then. I personally remember when old guys started calling the OG 'Herowana' as a joke to explain how strong our pot is compared to what they smoked back in the day. I think the name Herowana was finally settled on for the more Indica OG way after Skywalker was becoming well known, and this was in response to Skywalker's popularity and an attempt to market another strain. So one last time, it was only out of the realization that 'all those years' the more Indica OG from the past 'must have been Herowana' that one could conclude it is older than and more original than Skywalker. It is simply a matter of prevalence and assumption. Further, I still maintain that I am the one who first delineated they were different because I had Herowana since the year 2000 and Skywalker since 2002, and I ran thorough experiments to differentiate them. I talked with the guys I got it from and everyone says the OG which is now named Skywalker is the original OG, indicating that those people there at the time are in the know, but how can anybody know for certain when what is certain, they all came from the same bag seed as far back as 1998! Regardless, in 2008 I ran further tests showing nutrient threshold differences between the two further convincing me there is a true difference between Herowana and Skywalker. I will publish these results soon here at 420 Magazine. Well I hope this puts all assumptions to rest."

Ron Cabrera aka Luke Skywalker




Originally Posted by James123
Skywalker og is one of the best og kush strains that I have tried. But it is not the original og kush. I got my original og kush from a select group of growers who includes b-real from cypress hill. My friend Ron is the only person that I can verify having the true Skywalker and we went head to head growing my og cut and his Skywalker. Both strains are available in clone form only and they look almost identical. Both have dominant 3 blade leafs with an occasional curl on one blade. We thought they were the same but noticed slight differences during week 3 while we were running the same nutes on both. In the end we couldn't tell the difference between buds as they both had similar appearances and aroma. My og was just a little more dense than his Skywalker and the taste and smoke was slightly richer with my og. We concluded that they weren't the same exact strain but very close. Ron's Skywalker nugs grew a little more sativa like while my og nugs were a little more dense and slightly more indica looking. In the end Ron admitted that I had the original og cut. Don't get me wrong you put them side by side and the avg person could not tell the difference. But if you are a true og connoisseur you will know. My og which I call herojuana og and Ron's Skywalker are by far the best og's in the market.
 

gweddo6868

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i have heard a few stories about this grateful dead concert from back in the day at least we know they were passing around good smoke lol. But seriuosly can anyone verify these accounts Because when i grow i strive for the best i can do and i hate endless clones or buying stuff from a disp because to me u dont know what u getting its like a tattoo in chinese and u dont really know what it says haha!!!!!! I dont take anything from outside sources and i will feel good to know i get to grow a piece of history and some danks i order all my stuff from amsterdam i feel thats the closets i can get to the real and or orignial thing.
 

Fresh 2 De@th

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no it's not the real skywalker, it's a cross using the real skywalker. as from what's been said, it's very exclusive and not an og that most can say they have.
 

gweddo6868

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no it's not the real skywalker, it's a cross using the real skywalker. as from what's been said, it's very exclusive and not an og that most can say they have.
I knew it was to good to be true. Thank you for the response. Have u ever grown this or know somebody that did?
 

gweddo6868

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tbh, i am in the same boat as you when it comes to genetics. i also choose to grow from seeds, making my own selections.

as for the availability of the skywalker, it's very exclusive, hence the reason why you don't see too many grows of her. i did manage to find a grow, here's the link.
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/plant-bud-photos/87299-sativa-og-kush-aka-skywalker-og-legal-medical-marijuana-grow.html
Very nice wow i wish i could visit that garden truly what a treat. To be honest i understand why its exculsive i would treat it the same way. And when i ordered this i was really excitied and still am at least im getting half of the original minus the original og kush cut. i mean to think a ounce in 91 went for 500 what would a ounce of that go for today? crazy im sure And you and i started from seeds others need to try this.
more than endless clones i argee!!!!!!!!
 
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