is tomato feed good for white widow????

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the name of the feed im thinking about use'n is ( doff portland ) tomato feed with sea weed and magnesium 0.005%mg . it says on the back that the total (nitrogen is 4.0%) and (ureic nitrogen is2.5%) and (ammonical nitrogen is 1.5) water soluble (phosphorus pentoxide is 5.0%)2.2%P) and water soluble (potassium oxide 8.0%)6.6%K) at the bottom of the bottle says fertiliser declaration ec fertiliser (npk) fert solution (4-5-8) IS THIS ANY GOOD OF A FERT TO USE ON MY WHITE WIDOW ALL HELP MUCH APPRECIATED :peace:
 

hotrodharley

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OK really ferts should be ferts. But go with a maker that KNOWS you're growing smoke. Advanced Nutrients, Floratech and more. 4-5-8 is not good for pot in veg or in bloom phase.
 

Vindicated

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IMO that's bad advice. Nutrients are fertilizers. The only difference is that nutrients is a term used in hydroponics, while fertilizers is a classic term for gardening and farming. There is no such thing as a cannabis specific nutrient profile. No one has yet to prove cannabis like's 1-1-1 more then 1-2-2 or 1-3-2. They all work. Companies use marketing to make you believe they've discovered the best profile, but it's just a sales gimmick.

In fact, it was because companies lied so much to farmers back in the day, that the government put a stop to so called "snail oils" and required all fertilizer and pesticide companies to post the NPK values and ingredients. This is so you the grower can look at a product and within a second, you know if it's going to work or not. Not only that, by requiring them to list every single ingredient, you know if it's safe for food crops. Very useful to know if your making pot brownies.

In hydroponic systems, your looking for something that runs cleans and is highly water soluble. Outside in the garden, you want the exact opposite. Something that won't wash away when the rains come or the sprinklers turn on. This is where a slow releasing fertilizer in dry or granual form work best.

So when your looking at that bag of tomato fertilizer, first ask yourself how you'll be using it. The name means nothing. Its all about dry vs wet. Slow release vs quick absorption. Soil vs hydro. Once that's determined. Then look at the NPK profile. Is it all purpose, veg, or bloom?
 

Vindicated

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4-5-8 is close to an all-purpose feed with a slight bias for fruit & flower production. It can be used all season long and it will do just fine in a garden, whether your growing corn or cannabis.
 

dkmf1

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IMO that's bad advice. Nutrients are fertilizers. The only difference is that nutrients is a term used in hydroponics, while fertilizers is a classic term for gardening and farming. There is no such thing as a cannabis specific nutrient profile. No one has yet to prove cannabis like's 1-1-1 more then 1-2-2 or 1-3-2. They all work. Companies use marketing to make you believe they've discovered the best profile, but it's just a sales gimmick.

In fact, it was because companies lied so much to farmers back in the day, that the government put a stop to so called "snail oils" and required all fertilizer and pesticide companies to post the NPK values and ingredients. This is so you the grower can look at a product and within a second, you know if it's going to work or not. Not only that, by requiring them to list every single ingredient, you know if it's safe for food crops. Very useful to know if your making pot brownies.

In hydroponic systems, your looking for something that runs cleans and is highly water soluble. Outside in the garden, you want the exact opposite. Something that won't wash away when the rains come or the sprinklers turn on. This is where a slow releasing fertilizer in dry or granual form work best.

So when your looking at that bag of tomato fertilizer, first ask yourself how you'll be using it. The name means nothing. Its all about dry vs wet. Slow release vs quick absorption. Soil vs hydro. Once that's determined. Then look at the NPK profile. Is it all purpose, veg, or bloom?
Nicely put, +rep for taking the time!
 

Wetdog

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4-5-8 is close to an all-purpose feed with a slight bias for fruit & flower production. It can be used all season long and it will do just fine in a garden, whether your growing corn or cannabis.
^^^^^THAT^^^^^

It will be fine. Vindicated explained it very well.

Wet
 

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just a couple more noob question's , how long would you let your ww veg for ? would a plant give better yeild's if it is more mature? and would it be ok to take a plant inside for flowering? whats the best lighting to use for flowering ?? :peace:
 

Vindicated

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Some people start 12/12 from seed, others wait several months. Ether works but generally the longer you veg the bigger your plants will be, within reason. There is a limit on plant size that's controlled by genetics and it's different for each strain. If your plants are outside, keep them outside. Taking outside plants indoors has risks. One pest can turn into many real quick. Outside pests are kept in check by natural predators. When you bring them indoors, your the only predator.
 
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