Islam

Do you understand the idea of an Islamic Christian?

Ought you thinking/being lead to become an Islamic Christian?

Are you an Islamic Christian?

Just as many Jews were/are lead to believe in the reality of God by receiving the testimony of Jesus Christ and so became Judeo Christian; I believe many Muslims within the Islamic world are being driven by the power of the Spirit of Truth, the Holy Spirit in their conscience/mind to advance beyond the religious shortcomings of the religion of Islam and mature into the spiritual relationship with God that comes by faith moreso than religion.

Thus, in short, Islamic Christians are exactly what the term hints at, Muslims who have found the state of the Word of Truth that begins and ultimately ends with the testimony of Jesus Christ, as convicted by the faith of their hearts and the Word and Deed that comes through the reality of Christ Jesus.

Furthermore, Islamic Christian does not necessarily completely debunk their Islamic upbringings and/or culture but blend it in to their ever evolving Christian understanding as lead by the Holy Spirit / Word of Truth.


Jesus Teaches Nicodemus

John 3:1-21 Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council. He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs, you are doing if God were not with him.

v.3 In reply Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”
How can a man be born when he is old?” Nicodemus asked, “Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb to be born!”

v.5 Jesus answered, I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he be born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but Spirit gives birth to spirit.

v.7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again. The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”

v.9 How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.
You are Israel’s teacher, said Jesus, and do you not understand these things?

v.11 I tell you the truth, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?

v.13 No one has ever gone to heaven except the one who came from heaven-the Son of Man must be lifted up,

v.15 that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.
“For God so loved the world that He gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.

v.17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s [firstborn] one and only Son.

v.19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed.

v.21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”

John 14:15-31 If you love me, you will obey what I command. And I will ask the [Heavenly] Father, and He will give you another Counselor to be with you forever-

v.17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

v.19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.

v.21 Whoever has my commands and obey them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him.
Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, “But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?”

v.23 Jesus replied, “If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will make our home with Him. He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

v.25 All this I have spoken while still with you. But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

v.27 Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.
You heard me say, “I am going away and I am coming back to you. If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

v.29 I have told you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe. I will not speak with you much longer, for the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold on me,

v.31 but the world must learn that I love the Father and that I do exactly what my Father has commanded me.
“Come now let us leave.


Love God;
Homage your love ones to God;
Worship God thru your loved ones,
Mark Daniels
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Detroit,Mi

I don't think Christianity has the monopoly on God or Truth.

bobharvey said:

Where is the freedom in that? Tell me Hitler, what else should I do?!

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you should shut the fuck up right now cuz. you have no clue wat the fuck your talkin about u dumb peice of shit. hitler killed his own and others for satisfaction .my grandfather fought in world war 2 u dumb cunt and almost lost his life in a concentration camp so check yourself pussy cuz im no fan of hitler and not to be an internet thug if i ever met u in real life id knock your fake fuck ass out.

WOW!!! You are incredibly immature...and boring.

bobharvey said:

I don't think Christianity has the monopoly on God or Truth.

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go tell that to the christians...

bobharvey said:

I don't think Christianity has the monopoly on God or Truth.

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nickfury510 said:

go tell that to the christians...

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I think that is the problem with most religions. The extremests in any religion beleive that there beleifs are the only true beleifs and it is there duty to make everyone beleive the same as them!
Most beleivers of any religion can step back and say that we are all people with the same needs and wants. But extremests tout the parts of the bible or koran that are Gods words enterpretated by a man, ( and therfore maybe not what God wanted) that they beleve makes it ok, or Gods will that they force there belefs on the world.
I don't know what it would take to get the world to see that we can all get along! But it needs to happen!

peace man

Fuck them!!!! God damn terrosists

Rope Smoker said:

I think that is the problem with most religions. The extremests in any religion beleive that there beleifs are the only true beleifs and it is there duty to make everyone beleive the same as them!
Most beleivers of any religion can step back and say that we are all people with the same needs and wants. But extremests tout the parts of the bible or koran that are Gods words enterpretated by a man, ( and therfore maybe not what God wanted) that they beleve makes it ok, or Gods will that they force there belefs on the world.
I don't know what it would take to get the world to see that we can all get along! But it needs to happen!

peace man

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thou shalt not kill.......period ,no ifs ands or buts....but everyday all 3 religions kill in the name of god....if islam is evil then so is cristianity and judaism.......

bobharvey said:

WOW!!! You are incredibly immature...and boring.

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war never solves anything right theres no reason to be in iraq. how bout the thousands being killed and torture by there own goverment.you can look from wat ever angle you want there pros and cons to both i guess you jus gotta support you government even if you think there dumb. bush isnt good at pick wars but thats not the soldiers fault they didnt choose to fight so you should support them with what they do. mostly they do it so you can sit here and type there stupid arguements. so be a little thankful net time and dont be so quick to say whos wrong abd your immature for not looking at both sides before answering.

brizzle33 said:

war never solves anything right theres no reason to be in iraq. how bout the thousands being killed and torture by there own goverment.you can look from wat ever angle you want there pros and cons to both i guess you jus gotta support you government even if you think there dumb. bush isnt good at pick wars but thats not the soldiers fault they didnt choose to fight so you should support them with what they do. mostly they do it so you can sit here and type there stupid arguements. so be a little thankful net time and dont be so quick to say whos wrong abd your immature for not looking at both sides before answering.

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At this point in my understanding of things, I have determined that there are three states of reality: the spiritual reality from which all things derive; the natural reality that is the derivative of the spiritual reality; and the third is the mind reality, that is how your mind perceive or interpret the spiritual reality and the natural realities.

The reality of the mind can be corrupted and thus perverted by the sounds and images it is receiving from the worldly things of the natural reality or it can persevere with the spiritual reality thereof and its manifestation, which can be either spiritually good or spiritually evil by nature/heart.

The idea is to sequence your mind with the nature that is your heart; such a state/commitment will ultimately lead you into your Original/True Destiny.

With this being said, the reality is as long as you have evil coercing against the will of good and craftily or settlely or subconsciously corrupting and manipulating the will of people from their original destiny with sins/wrongs and lies and the such, war will be going on regardless, the only difference is evil would be advancing instead of good.


Many people don’t know this or even want others to know this, but the evil ones are after our minds, it knows that if it can put the fear of death in our minds or trick our minds otherwise it will have the upper hand; so if nothing else there is a war going on to win over your mind; thus, knowledge is power and the key and I advise all to seek it. If you are not standing for good, you are standing for nothing or evil; whatever you do it needs to be proactive and progressive.

I honestly think that with Katrina, the Tsunami, the attack on the World Trade centers, and all the other confound or unexpected things that have developed during his terms that he has done a productive and resilient job that will have positive affects throughout universal history. These people knocking him will be proved wrong as Truth and time reveals Bush II presidency.

I am more concerned about this crafty serpent/guy name Obama; all and all I believe this is the Apocalypse, but a lot of people are trying to play it down, don’t be a fool and fall for it.

brizzle33 said:

war never solves anything right theres no reason to be in iraq. how bout the thousands being killed and torture by there own goverment.you can look from wat ever angle you want there pros and cons to both i guess you jus gotta support you government even if you think there dumb. bush isnt good at pick wars but thats not the soldiers fault they didnt choose to fight so you should support them with what they do. mostly they do it so you can sit here and type there stupid arguements. so be a little thankful net time and dont be so quick to say whos wrong abd your immature for not looking at both sides before answering.

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You don't support your government just because it is your government! That is what freedom and democracy is all about. And we have our military volunteers. If they have a choice in joining then I have a choice in supporting any military action my government takes. Not questioning the government is unpatriotic and ignorant.

Prophecy said:

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At this point in my understanding of things, I have determined that there are three states of reality: the spiritual reality from which all things derive; the natural reality that is the derivative of the spiritual reality; and the third is the mind reality, that is how your mind perceive or interpret the spiritual reality and the natural realities.

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If the minds interpretation of reality is wrong. Then the duality perceived is an illusion as well. There is no such thing as EVIL and there is not such thing as GOOD. There are standards that we believe/feel we should as humans live up to but that is just another part of our spiritual evolution.

your a joke man. you wouldnt know patriotic if it punched you in the face. i dont believe that we should be fighting in the middle east but there fighting for me and there country no matter how the feel about it.so i support them a 100%.also i believe the saying is its not wat you country can do for YOU its wat You can do for your COUNTRY.

brizzle33 said:

your a joke man. you wouldnt know patriotic if it punched you in the face. i dont believe that we should be fighting in the middle east but there fighting for me and there country no matter how the feel about it.so i support them a 100%.also i believe the saying is its not wat you country can do for YOU its wat You can do for your COUNTRY.

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in iraq many many many more civilians were killed than soldiers, that war was unjust, i was part of the invasion in a main body support unit rhht 2nd acr a 50cal travels 2 miles, and fires at a rate of 800 rounds per minute, you fire it in bursts, that kill dozens of people, or a mk 19 which is a belt fed automatic grenade launcher.. the war was wrong im telling you as a witness. and the people, 10x the quality of americans, ive spit on this country every day since ive been home and i have every right to, i fought for it.. Islam is not evil, it beautiful, and the people are amazing. if you want to hate anyone hate america, after all its a cess pool of corruption and lies, keeping a mindless populace at bay with dumbing down reality tv so you can think stupidity like jessica simpson is the norm or the mesmerizing talentless monkeys on american idol. the media aka 4th branch of the government, rome used Catholicism to control the empire once it grew too large for conventional control, we use tv, and look at the converter boxes everyone has to buy.. just sounds fishy to me, like another way to monitor or control us. hate your government, they use the constitution i swore an oath to protect as toilet paper and this chick is pissed.

xochi said:

in iraq many many many more civilians were killed than soldiers, that war was unjust, i was part of the invasion in a main body support unit rhht 2nd acr a 50cal travels 2 miles, and fires at a rate of 800 rounds per minute, you fire it in bursts, that kill dozens of people, or a mk 19 which is a belt fed automatic grenade launcher.. the war was wrong im telling you as a witness. and the people, 10x the quality of americans, ive spit on this country every day since ive been home and i have every right to, i fought for it.. Islam is not evil, it beautiful, and the people are amazing. if you want to hate anyone hate america, after all its a cess pool of corruption and lies, keeping a mindless populace at bay with dumbing down reality tv so you can think stupidity like jessica simpson is the norm or the mesmerizing talentless monkeys on american idol. the media aka 4th branch of the government, rome used Catholicism to control the empire once it grew too large for conventional control, we use tv, and look at the converter boxes everyone has to buy.. just sounds fishy to me, like another way to monitor or control us. hate your government, they use the constitution i swore an oath to protect as toilet paper and this chick is pissed.

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It's nice to hear from someone that was there! Correct me if I'm wrong, But the jest of why we where there was wepons of mass destruction, and that the perpetrators where trained there. But from what I have read on the conspiracy web sites is that the money trail that was funding the terrorests was traced back to Egypt, and the Biblaudens, aka Bushes buddys. When no one was flying after 9-11 Bush oked a flight for some Binlauden relative to fly out of the country. Like You said it's all what the media pumps out to make you think the way they want you to!
Politics makes me sick! But If yu don't vote you don't have a right to bitch!
I say vote the incumbent out every election, as a protest! But you don't have much to chose from!

PS Not all of us Americans are blind to what is going on! Just not much we can do.

peace man

Prophecy said:

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"To lay down your life (where applicable) for another, for the greater good; that's what patriotic means to me: either as a soldier in the military or a citizen fighting for the right change within their communoty for the greater good; "NO Excuses"
"No denials"
"Appropriate Repentance"

So your opinion was wrong about me. Try again.

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i wasent talkin bout you i was talkin bout bob so your wrong try again

xochi said:

in iraq many many many more civilians were killed than soldiers, that war was unjust, i was part of the invasion in a main body support unit rhht 2nd acr a 50cal travels 2 miles, and fires at a rate of 800 rounds per minute, you fire it in bursts, that kill dozens of people, or a mk 19 which is a belt fed automatic grenade launcher.. the war was wrong im telling you as a witness. and the people, 10x the quality of americans, ive spit on this country every day since ive been home and i have every right to, i fought for it.. Islam is not evil, it beautiful, and the people are amazing. if you want to hate anyone hate america, after all its a cess pool of corruption and lies, keeping a mindless populace at bay with dumbing down reality tv so you can think stupidity like jessica simpson is the norm or the mesmerizing talentless monkeys on american idol. the media aka 4th branch of the government, rome used Catholicism to control the empire once it grew too large for conventional control, we use tv, and look at the converter boxes everyone has to buy.. just sounds fishy to me, like another way to monitor or control us. hate your government, they use the constitution i swore an oath to protect as toilet paper and this chick is pissed.

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Honestly, I don't like war; but the reality is sometimes you have to do what you don't necessarily want to do.

I didn't vote for this war in 2003 or whenever it was approved by some 80+ % by the U.S. Congress and popular polls of those times.

But the reality is according to my beliefs and studies, it was an inevitable thing; the war at "Armegeddon";; the Apacalyspe.

With this in mine, I beleive that the President and his staff made the right called. Can you image if we didn't, do you really think Osama and Al Qaeda and the Taliban would have given to civil reasoning; do you really believe that the U.S military coalition is respponsib;e for the innocent children being killed buy suicide attacks while shopping inthe marketplaces withthe parents or whatever; clearly thosew were acts of pure ignorant evil.

So, in my perspective if the U.S. wouldn't have went there, they would have continued to infatrate the world countries, including the U.S in preparation for coordinated suicide bombing all over the world where their heretic form of religion wasn't accepted.

I didn't then, but knowing what I know now I beleive that it is necessary. Ultimately God will judge the conscience of all of us, so save room for God to avenge.

Lean not to your own undersyanding, the Word of God tells us.

Afganistan yes we needed to be there! Osama was there, but Iraq, no there was no reason for us to be there. The only reason the terrorist are there now is because the US is there. So we are close to them, and they can hurt us.

But because we are there, we need to stay untill the democratic government can support itself. I just don't know if it can!

Peace Man

brizzle33 its idiots like you who are the real terrorists.

I heard in one of bush's speaches that the war in iraq is gods work. The only reason why american soldiers are fighting that pointless war is because of people like you believing all them lies and supporting the war in iraq.