Issue? Any feedback would be nice.

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weedking24

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Spider farmer 4000 set to 70%. 50% happy frog, 25% coco, 25% ewc. Gaia green 444. 6.5 soil ph. 74° and 70RHThis issue has been progressing for 2-3 weeks now. Transplanted 2 weeks ago and still getting worse. BFBCECFB-A9B8-488A-A777-91FEFB83B647.jpegEAA5296A-8C0E-4C19-9702-AD4F5EC61E02.jpeg36569953-D1A4-4176-A86C-05D661391E88.jpeg845F9949-3B0F-4CC7-A13C-CE46E638F0B2.jpeg
 
The ingredients don't sound too bad, but maybe you're not applying them correctly... I think it would help to have more details such as:

How far away is your light?
How big is the container and how long has the plant been in it?
How have you been applying the 444? Top dress? If so how often?
Are you fertilizing with anything besides the 444?

Lots of potting mixes use coco instead of peat, so I don't think the fact that your mix is 25% coco is the problem.
 
Issue(s)? Just look at your dying plants.

Be sure to correct your mistakes from this grow before starting another grow in the future.
 
weedstoner420 said:
The ingredients don't sound too bad, but maybe you're not applying them correctly... I think it would help to have more details such as:

How far away is your light?
How big is the container and how long has the plant been in it?
How have you been applying the 444? Top dress? If so how often?
Are you fertilizing with anything besides the 444?

Lots of potting mixes use coco instead of peat, so I don't think the fact that your mix is 25% coco is the problem.
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Lights 24 inches away. They was in 2 gallons now they’re in 7 gallons when transplanted 2 weeks ago. Haven’t topped dresses. Apply when repotting but will have to top dress from here on out. nothin else has been used
 
weedking24 said:
Spider farmer 4000 set to 70%. 50% happy frog, 25% coco, 25% ewc. Gaia green 444. 6.5 soil ph. 74° and 70RHThis issue has been progressing for 2-3 weeks now. Transplanted 2 weeks ago and still getting worse. View attachment 5241525View attachment 5241526View attachment 5241528View attachment 5241530
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Plants are locked up from what I dont no, I would flush them hard if not better in a week toss that mess start over with new soil look into promix if you can get it.
 
I wouldn’t worry to much about your ph in the soil just yet and would definitely introduce some epsom salt to your next watering. You have some lock outs and several issues currently. I would flush two times then water with some nutes if they don’t get better soon I’d just pull them and start fresh paying better attention to your soil and medium next time if you do some reading on here you can find nice soil recipes and tutorials on how to maintain and feed properly through out the whole grow
 
weedking24 said:
Lights 24 inches away. They was in 2 gallons now they’re in 7 gallons when transplanted 2 weeks ago. Haven’t topped dresses. Apply when repotting but will have to top dress from here on out. nothin else has been used
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I'm thinking lockout as well, mostly cuz the tops seem worse than the bottom leaves. But that's also a pretty big plant to have in a 2-gallon pot with no added nutes, so they might also be deficient...hard to guess without knowing how much 444 you used...

Either way, by the time you get them back to health they're going to be way too big to flower comfortably in a tent. I would baby them for a while until they start to turn around, then take clones and flower them as smaller plants.
 
Boatguy said:
Probably due to ph being out of whack.
Im not sure how the op has determined his soil ph but i doubt his results
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I have a blue lab soil ph pen. I’m 100% they’re nute locked now. Idk what caused it though.I think it’s a mixture of overwatering and I prob forgot to ph my 7.5 tap water once. They are very slowly coming back to life since watering with PH 6.0.
 
Boatguy said:
This is what happens when you mix mediums.
If you had just grown in happy frog, or coco, this thread wouldnt have happened.
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This is also what can happen if you transplanted and immediately pushed into flower. Are you still in veg? To me your plants look like they are attempting to rapidly grow with no root support
 
That happy frog alone would have enough nutrient in it and after adding gaia green and ewc you certainly have locked them up. Your ph may have played a small role but it’s not the sole cause. I would repot in something less hot and just plain water. They’ll come back but it won’t be fast.
 
Feed the plant some bottled food of General Organic’s BIO Thrive GROW and their cal/mag supplement. It’s pretty good at adjusting its ph. I’ve used it with good results in coco and soil. The 444 you are using takes awhile to work. The plant will survive, don’t chuck it! Check your run off ph just to see if it’s way out of wack. Good luck, I use FFOF. Your plant is hungry
 
Yup looks very hungry. Likely underfeeding but could be lockout. Id vote underfeeding. Up the feed, keep the ph around 6. Should come back.

I also grow in a peat moss coco mix. Works great.
 
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