Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
wait, where did the last 4 pages of this thread go? Potroast? Anybody?
It's A Fuct World
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Bigz2277
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RIU got hacked on march 15th, They restored the servers to an image they had taken on 2-20-12. so anything since then is gone.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Well, that sucks donkey wongs. Sniffing around a few threads, claims that anti-drug twatbags are responsible are floating around.
This, in and of itself, amuses me to no end... as if hacking a pot growers' discussion forum is going to make any kind of a dent in the general scheme of people growing & smoking cannabis. I love Anonymous dearly, but their claim to 'we are legion' is piddling compared to the sheer numbers of clandestine pot growers in this world.
OK, well, let me sum up everything I posted from 20 Feb forward:
DON'T use laundry bleach, molasses, sulfuric acid, LEDs, RO systems. DO buy a good waterproof pH meter, cheap meters are false economy- and calibrate your pH meter before every use.
And what's going on in my op? GLAD you asked!
First, learn how to set the white balance on your camera so photos taken under HPS light look like they were taken under normal full-spectrum light! Orange light looks like hell in photos unless you custom set the white balance properly!
Tray 1, with a batch of clones just put in. One recalcitrant clone in the left corner is just being a time-waster. TO THE COMPOST WITH YE! Note that I've raised this tray up about 4" with 2"x4" wood blocks to get the new plants a bit closer to the light for their 1st 2 weeks in the flowering room.
Tray 2, plants have been flowering for 2 weeks. Yellow sticky cards are a great alarm system to tell you if bugs have sneaked in. Had some whitefly recently, dosed the lot with Confidor. BAM. No whitefly.
Tray 3, plants have been flowering 4 weeks, rocking right along.
Tray 4, plants flowering 6 weeks.
Doing reasonably well at 6 weeks, nice solid nuggies.
So, how's things?
This, in and of itself, amuses me to no end... as if hacking a pot growers' discussion forum is going to make any kind of a dent in the general scheme of people growing & smoking cannabis. I love Anonymous dearly, but their claim to 'we are legion' is piddling compared to the sheer numbers of clandestine pot growers in this world.
OK, well, let me sum up everything I posted from 20 Feb forward:
DON'T use laundry bleach, molasses, sulfuric acid, LEDs, RO systems. DO buy a good waterproof pH meter, cheap meters are false economy- and calibrate your pH meter before every use.
And what's going on in my op? GLAD you asked!
First, learn how to set the white balance on your camera so photos taken under HPS light look like they were taken under normal full-spectrum light! Orange light looks like hell in photos unless you custom set the white balance properly!
Tray 1, with a batch of clones just put in. One recalcitrant clone in the left corner is just being a time-waster. TO THE COMPOST WITH YE! Note that I've raised this tray up about 4" with 2"x4" wood blocks to get the new plants a bit closer to the light for their 1st 2 weeks in the flowering room.
Tray 2, plants have been flowering for 2 weeks. Yellow sticky cards are a great alarm system to tell you if bugs have sneaked in. Had some whitefly recently, dosed the lot with Confidor. BAM. No whitefly.
Tray 3, plants have been flowering 4 weeks, rocking right along.
Tray 4, plants flowering 6 weeks.
Doing reasonably well at 6 weeks, nice solid nuggies.
So, how's things?
Hello Al,
Nice to see some new pics of your grow. Looking good as usual ! I was surprised to see how close the fans are to the plants.
What is the name brand of your yellow sticky traps ?
Also, I just bought a home in the country to fix up and was wondering something. The Ph of the well water is 6.8 and the PPM is 20. It tastes OK and does not have any kind of a smell to it. Would you give it a try like it is or go with RO ? I have heard you say that bore water can be a problem.
Nice to see some new pics of your grow. Looking good as usual ! I was surprised to see how close the fans are to the plants.
What is the name brand of your yellow sticky traps ?
Also, I just bought a home in the country to fix up and was wondering something. The Ph of the well water is 6.8 and the PPM is 20. It tastes OK and does not have any kind of a smell to it. Would you give it a try like it is or go with RO ? I have heard you say that bore water can be a problem.
Bigz2277
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sounds fine man, my tap water is 8.0 and 200 ppm. If oregon is where you are headed im pretty sure there water is solid. im Eastern wa myself.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Thanks.
If the room were bigger, the fans would be further away, but there's simply no more room. The fans run on low speed and probably should have a speed controller on them to slow them down even more. New clones especially don't like a lot of wind on them, so I raise the fan for that table up so the air blows over top of them. When the plants get bigger, they can tolerate a bit more breeze.
Not sure, but I think they're made by 'Seabright Laboratories.' I'm sure there's dozens of makers of the things. Should be available at any hydro shop, garden shop or hardware store.
Noice! Sounds like it's fine to use your bore water. Only when there's a high sulfur or iron content need you consider RO.
Yep, your pH is a bit alkaline, most likely due to some Ca & Mg content, which is indicated by the 200ppm TDS figure. I'm sure it's fine, just by correcting the pH down with some phosphoric acid, which I'm confident you already do.
Thanks for the reply Al.
I just finished reading your "get a harvest every two weeks" thread on here. All 1966 posts. I read this one first and then went back to your old one taking it on a little at a time. I guess I'll look in on your "batch of clones in rockwool" next. Man you have a lot of patience answering the same things over and over. I was tempted to ask you how long do you leave your clones in veg, lol.-Gyro
I just finished reading your "get a harvest every two weeks" thread on here. All 1966 posts. I read this one first and then went back to your old one taking it on a little at a time. I guess I'll look in on your "batch of clones in rockwool" next. Man you have a lot of patience answering the same things over and over. I was tempted to ask you how long do you leave your clones in veg, lol.-Gyro
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
You're a bit of a masochist. xD
Goes on a bit, doesn't it?
I rather like that thread, but most of the meat of it is in the 1st 10 pgs or so. The method remains the same in my op at present, but I now only use plain water when watering clones. No H2O2 or weak nutes in ther watering soln; seems the latter was slowing things down a bit. No nutes 'til they have roots.
The repetition gets annoying after a while, but when a thread runs into thousands of posts, you can't really expect most ppl to read the whole thing.
I would not kill someone who asked how long I veg my clones, but I would invite them to revisit the entire theory of SoG! xD
jojodancer10
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Hello al I'm in coco ad a medium I want to know how often should I flood the table per day the.clones are starting week two and medium is wet I don't want to over feed them.thanks al
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
I'm not a fan of coir because it is composed of organic matter, which tends to fragment & disintegrate when exposed to H2O2. This can result in bits of coir jamming up water pumps in flood systems, along with making a general mess. Your concern with watering intervals in any given type of media is not so much overfeeding but overwatering. I can't speak to the water holding capacity of coir as I've not run any in my op.
Wasn't necessary. The chlorination applied by my local muni water supplier is sufficient to keep a bucket of plain water pathogen free for about 3 days, which is as long as I ever keep a bucket of water around for watering the clones.
fiverivers
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Hey Al.
I have finally gotten everything dialed in thanks to you and RIU. Girls are in week 2 of 12/12, running clones rooted in rockwool into full hydroton, flooded 7min/3 hours. My question is, few of my girls are starting to look sad and droopy!??? Im having to adjust ph daily to 5.5-5.8, as it reaches 7.1, by adding distilled vinegar (going to auto store to buy sulfuric acid tomorrow). PPM was only 800.
All help for a successful harvest is appreciated.
FR
I have finally gotten everything dialed in thanks to you and RIU. Girls are in week 2 of 12/12, running clones rooted in rockwool into full hydroton, flooded 7min/3 hours. My question is, few of my girls are starting to look sad and droopy!??? Im having to adjust ph daily to 5.5-5.8, as it reaches 7.1, by adding distilled vinegar (going to auto store to buy sulfuric acid tomorrow). PPM was only 800.
All help for a successful harvest is appreciated.
FR
fiverivers
Active Member
LOL. Scratch the Sulfuric ACid part....just read a page back..what do you recommend for ph down? Im sure all the vinegar i am using is effecting EC some how.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Varies, but avg would be about .75z per plant.
Flood interval sounds OK for clay pellets.
The problem is pathogens attacking your roots and they're coming from the vinegar. Vinegar is a fermented product- there's yeast and probably some leftover pythium from the grape crop. One very good clue to pathogen infestation of a system is a pH that jumps up rather quickly.
Ditch the vinegar. Do NOT use sulfuric acid!
Dump & thoroughly clean your tanks & trays with 10% bleach in water with a drop of liquid soap. Get some phosphoric acid based pH Down from the hydro shop. Also, treat nute soln with 50% grade H2O2 @ 1ml/L every 3-4 days. 30% H2O2 will do, at 1.7ml/L same schedule. Don't use pharmacy grade 3% or 10% H2O2- these include stabilisers that are bad for plants.
Rick Ratlin
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speaking of hydroton, what is the best flood interval in your opinion. How high would you flood in hydroton if the clone is air rooted and planted directly in the hydroton. Love the pics, the more the better, especially of the cool tube set up and attachment areas. Thanks Al!
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
For medialess clones in pellets, you can flood to the stem tip if you want to. Roots should be under at least 25mm of pellets, tho.
The cooltubes have pem nuts in the upper surface of the aluminum tube sections on either end of the glass tube. These are for eyebolts normally used the hang the things from. I've simply drilled a couple of holes in the reflector to suit these eyebolts and suspended the reflector & cooltube with easy-roll light hangers. The air ducting used is the heatproof semi-flexible all auminum sort used for range hood ventilation. Flexible dryer type duct is more restrictive but might be used anyway. The output air temp of my pair of cooltubes in series is usually about 6-7C higher than the intake air temp. I'm using a 150mm axial blower to run the cooltubes but a centrifugal blower, since it can make more pressure & overcome poor flow characters introduced by bends as well as the lamp tubes & sockets themselves, would keep the lights a bit cooler- but probably would not affect the performance of the grow op. Works well enough, very little of the heat generated by the HPS jugs makes it into the room airmass.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Oops, forgot to comment on the interval... Because pellets hold very little water, you can flood frequently. I'd start with 3min at lights on (LO), then again at LO+3h, LO+6h, LO+8h & LO+10h. Of course, no floods during lights off.
Al, could you please tell us what's your daily/weekly/bi-weekly checklist?
It could be good if you'll make some kind of tutorial how to conduct OP like yours. I mean what are you doing step by step when you enter the room and why in this specific order. It will probably stop continous questions about the same things. I won't deny that it will help me a lot, cos I'm fucking perfectionist and you're a master in my eyes in what you're actually doing. I've read every post in all of your threads but it's difficult to come back and find an specific answer in thicket of information.
How much of Canna nutes do u use monthly for mothers and flowering plants, roughly?
I can't remember what do you use as ph up? Do you use phosporic PH down for all stages of grow?
Haven't you noticed any bad smell or taste issues because of sulfur vap?
Thanks for your contribution and dedication. Best wishes
Swiezy
It could be good if you'll make some kind of tutorial how to conduct OP like yours. I mean what are you doing step by step when you enter the room and why in this specific order. It will probably stop continous questions about the same things. I won't deny that it will help me a lot, cos I'm fucking perfectionist and you're a master in my eyes in what you're actually doing. I've read every post in all of your threads but it's difficult to come back and find an specific answer in thicket of information.
How much of Canna nutes do u use monthly for mothers and flowering plants, roughly?
I can't remember what do you use as ph up? Do you use phosporic PH down for all stages of grow?
Haven't you noticed any bad smell or taste issues because of sulfur vap?
Thanks for your contribution and dedication. Best wishes
Swiezy
Hey Al why not feed when lights out? And I read somewhere that a guy was flowering 10 hours lights on 14 hours lights off, everyday what you think of that? Also I seen another guy doing SOG but they make bigger plants maybe about 2 feet start flowering, I was thinking of that and have less plants, have about 4 big plants every 2 weeks in a SOG rotation, at 4oz per plant what you think of that Al? Also I was referred to this MLC-4X for your lights, you can plug in 4000 watts to this, and it gives more amps to hold in a room or power IDK, Im not sure about this. If possible can you let me know your idea or google or check it out and see if this is something worth buying is it a good buy, I never heard anyone talking about this so IDK if its new or what. Just want your opinoin. Thanks for all you input.