Bigz2277
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seen it done its possible but from what i learned the fermentation process destroys the THC
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I had never heard that about the leaves. From what I heard the stronger hops root system made the cannabis top grow bigger. Seems like a waste of time unless you just wanted to do it for kicks.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
No, it's not possible. Sorry, you've been lied to. Grafted plant material will produce precisely what it does with its own root system.
Yep- you've identified the main result, which is time wasting.
Bigz2277
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Wasn't with grafting. He might have been blowing smoke when he said it (i would like to know if you have any info that refutes it), but he said he crossbread a Indica dom hybrid with a hops plant to make some beer, but he said he didnt taste much different from the other home brew stuff he had done.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Cannabis & hops will not crossbreed. Too much genetic difference between the plants. It's like saying you could crossbreed basil with tarragon simply because they're both herbaceous- and you can't.
I'm not going to invest several hours researching & posting a full dissection of the botany involved in this because it's irrelevant to what we are doing on a cannabis growing board, but you can search it up if you like.
Bigz2277
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Heh, Well its good to know he's full of shit ^_^. Thanks for letting me know.
Btw, i dont know if i asked but what strain do you run on your flood tables?
Im working out the kinks of my sativa dom colombian gold. 2 foot high after stretch, 12/12 from clone 0 veg.
Building my flood table now, just not sure what strain is going in first. Prob gonna be 4-6 plants square pots with the STG hail.
What would you recommend for flood times with the hail? Was thinking twice a day while lights on.
Thanks for any help Al, just know there are people who appreciate your talent and knowledge... Keep it green.
Bigz
Btw, i dont know if i asked but what strain do you run on your flood tables?
Im working out the kinks of my sativa dom colombian gold. 2 foot high after stretch, 12/12 from clone 0 veg.
Building my flood table now, just not sure what strain is going in first. Prob gonna be 4-6 plants square pots with the STG hail.
What would you recommend for flood times with the hail? Was thinking twice a day while lights on.
Thanks for any help Al, just know there are people who appreciate your talent and knowledge... Keep it green.
Bigz
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
There's endless multitudes of myths about cannabis & growing the stuff. The hops thing is one of the oldest- and silliest.
I get annoyed with those who thoughtlessly regurgitate unsubstantiable myths because somewhere down the line, it's going to cause problems for earnest growers.
Sweet Tooth no. 4 from Spice of Life Seeds. No longer available from the breeder to the best of my knowledge. I cracked these beans in 2002 & have been propagating via cuttings ever since.
Sounds about right. Sativas tend to get a bit taller than indicas and don't grow as thickly. You can risk somewhat higher plants/sq ft density with an entire tray of sativa dominant hybrids. I'd hold it to 4/sq ft max, though.
Sweet Tooth no. 4 is a strongly indica dominant hybrid & grows very lushly; I hold it to 24 in a 900mm x 900mm table, which is about 2.75 plants/sq ft
Sounds OK.
Thanks for that.
Shwagbag
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Still rockin' sweet tooth! I quit smoking pot for a lot of years due to the fact that I simply couldn't get good pot where I lived. A friend of mine showed me some sweet tooth, got me a hookup, scored me a zip and 3 months later I was growing my own legally lol. That changed rather quickly. I really liked the sweet tooth. That's a long time to be smoking the same pot though, hope you have some friends with top shelf dank you can trade with 
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
GYO is the way to go.
At the end of the day, no matter what the strain, delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol is delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol. What does vary between strains is the ratios of delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol to the non- or less psychoactive cannabidiol & cannabidinol.That's a long time to be smoking the same pot though, hope you have some friends with top shelf dank you can trade with
Indicas tend to have higher levels of cannabidiol:delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol, which may account for a sleepier or 'body' high, compared to sativas, which have relatively low levels of cannabidiol, which is tends to give a less sleepy high but doesn't last as long.
Even after smoking the same buds for 10 years, I still find the buzz from ST4 more than adequate and still love the spicy, perfumey flavour. No complaints from the other folks who smoke my buds, either!
Shwagbag
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Oh I'm certain there's no complaints, I've seen them! Well not really, but I've seen pictures lol. I'm a big fan of variety, a connoisseur of sorts I guess. I get excitement from starting new strains and it seems to keep me interested and curious. I do love plants and growing cannabis but I get so damn busy that its difficult to enjoy staying on top of them when all one has time for is work, chores and gardening. It seems you know what this is like. Do you think you'll ever switch strains? If so what would you like to try in your system?
Al, Thanks for all of the answers. Can you tell me something more about compisting. Could you describe technique that u r using? I know that u use shreader.Do u use worms?/ how big the composter should be for op like yours? Do you mix greens with browns in special ratio? Or just put in what you have from trimmed and discarded plants? Does it smell weed?How long it takes to transform it to unrecognizable mass?
budman111
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He's here to give advice and you treat him like this? And people actually pressed the like button? WTF?
mountainboy
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Hi Al,and everyone else. I have a question of course.... I am growing in E&F table 3x3 25 plants,1000hps. I started with small clones 4-5 inches and well rooted. I put them str8 to 12/12. Its been 15 days and they look healthy and happy room is perfect conditions. The clones only have grown to 7-8 inches and have started flowering already. So if they are flowering is the stretch done.Will they continue to grow and flower. I wanted short plants due to my height restrictions but not this short..lol I thought I might end up with 16-18 inch plants when finished. Should I scrape this grow and try a lil more veg next time? I am afraid to put pics up ,but if you need to see pics I'll put them up,so you can get a better idea. Not sure if it makes a difference or not but this is the duckfoot strain(3 fingered webbed leaves). Thanks for any advice you can give me.
Moebius
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Lets see some pics dude. ... On the face of it I wouldn't say scrap them.
On a side note, really nice hash can be made with substandard or early flowering plants. Ive done it recently with a mini-washer, bubblebags and lots of ice.
tommygun666
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Hey Al
I have read through both your threads a few times and there is a bunch of great info for my first grow.
But I have a couple questions I haven't seen the answers to.
1. After you mix your nutes in your reservoir, do you go back every couple days and use a stick or something to mix the stuff up again so the nutes dont start to settle at the bottom? Or is it after you mix them up the first time, they are pretty much permanently diffused throughout the water?
2. How do you empty your reservoirs? They seem like they would be pretty heavy so do you just pump the water out to a sink or something? I wouldn't want to pump them outside cause all that water would just flood my whole backyard.
3. Lastly, if I use perlite, is it the same watering schedule as using fytocell? 1x a day?
Thanks so much Al!
I have read through both your threads a few times and there is a bunch of great info for my first grow.
But I have a couple questions I haven't seen the answers to.
1. After you mix your nutes in your reservoir, do you go back every couple days and use a stick or something to mix the stuff up again so the nutes dont start to settle at the bottom? Or is it after you mix them up the first time, they are pretty much permanently diffused throughout the water?
2. How do you empty your reservoirs? They seem like they would be pretty heavy so do you just pump the water out to a sink or something? I wouldn't want to pump them outside cause all that water would just flood my whole backyard.
3. Lastly, if I use perlite, is it the same watering schedule as using fytocell? 1x a day?
Thanks so much Al!
Moebius
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Newave - Circulation Pump
- Why didnt they make these earlier??
- Circulates your nutrient solution at very high volumes
- No more sediment left floating on top of solution
- No more sediment rings left around the tank
- Adjustable 800-1600L/hr
- 2700L/hr
- 3900L/hr
mountainboy
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Thank you for responding, I will put up the pics tonight ,lights dont come on till 10pm east coast time. This is my first time going 12/12 from clone so I'm unsure what to expect. I did alot of research and it seemed everyone was doing this even AL. all be it Als clones are much bigger and beefier then mine,most of the stuff I saw and read about used small clones like mine with no veg at all ,and most ended up at least 2ft,even guys who go 12/12 from seed. Al says his are 9-10 inches if I read right and end up 2.5-3 ft when finished. Well anyway I will post pics 2nite,I hope for the best but I will plan for the worst as that is usually my luck..lol.
Moebius
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One thing to remember when taking clones and going to 12/12 is the strain. .... I have a G13 that remains in a veg state for two/three weeks in 12/12 and grows lots while the violator kush doesnt stretch so much and shows flowers real quick. ...
and as you say, the initial size of the clone is an important factor. whether you want large or small clones will depend on how tall you want the finished plant and of course the size of your moms...... One thing I don't do, is trim the top leaves. Since they go straight to flower, I need as many leaves in place as poss.
mountainboy
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Moe thank you for your help, here are some pics, I used my trunchon for scale,and tried to get good pics of bud formation thus far day 16. Please dont laugh.
Moebius
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Dude i'm not laughing, they look good to me. ... I find that I can keep my lights quite close at this stage (air-cooled). Obviously the lower the lights the smaller the footprint but they do love the light. As the flowers grow Its best to move them up, I find the bud is more delicate than the leaves, at any rate they're more precious and not worth stressing them.
Anyways ... all good for you so far. Defo don't throw them or next time you won't do any better. I think you'll get some good smoke so keep improving the setup and dial it all in.
peace.