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Shwagbag · Aug 20, 2012

Perhaps that discussion is better suited for another part of the forum. Maybe Al would appreciate it if we changed the direction of the thread, back towards making dank. I think that would be a kind gesture.

Al B. Fuct · Aug 25, 2012

Raphael Mechoulam said:
Hey, Al! I just wanted to say thanks for all of the information you have given the grow community all of these years. You’re one of the only gurus that tell it like it is, without all the myths and bullshit. I started off growing DWC with great success, but just couldn’t get the yield I was looking for in my small space. I wanted to be able to grow enough to support myself when my unemployment ran out, plus have all I and my friends could smoke. I read for about two years before I finally got the balls to start, and apart from you guys in the growing forums, I’ve never told anyone what I’m up to (not easy, esp. when people state that I have the best weed they’ve ever had!) It was between aeroponics (mostly from Stinkbud’s thread) and F&D a la Mr. Fuct. I went with your method for several reasons, not the least of which is I am also a lazy stoner Also, sog is the highest yielding method per square foot. My room is about 6wx8lx8h, and I’m growing with two 600w digilux hps in Sun Systems’ Magnum XXXLs. I have 4 3x2 trays with a 2.5 square hanging panda tent with a 250w hps (what a genius idea, man!) in which I keep 11 moms of 5 different strains: White Widow, NY-47, Trainwreck (my favorite) OG Kush and NLxBB. I’ve got 22 plants in each tray and a 36 site aerocloner running most of the time (couldn’t do your rockwool cloning, too much work for me ). The mom’s do make way more clones than I need, and it’s nice to choose the best to flower. You were right, I cut the shit out of them with every batch of clones, and two weeks later they’re back where they were each time. My 5.5 inch pots (I grow 4 per sf) have a layer of rockwool mini cubes at the bottom and they’re filled with perlite. I can only water once every 2 or 3 days, and I’m looking to maybe switch mediums so I can flood more often, no hydroton please. I’m pulling a little over 10 ounces each tray every two weeks, not bad for 600s but I know I can get that up to a pound per tray. I’m still a newbie. I grow in my apartment, I converted my small office into the grow room with a deadbolt. Luckily, the room has two windows; one for intake in the cooler months and a 10,000 btu a/c in the other window. I took out the a/c side panels and replaced them with two vent boots on either side of the unit. I painted the inside of the boots white and put screen over them, looks totally natural from the outside. I run the ducting into the lights from one side of the a/c, then I have to have the ducting do a 180 sharp turn back over the lights and out the other boot register on the other side of the window. I have a 8 inch vortex fan so it easily compensates for the high static pressure of my ducting bends. I have 2 six inch vortex fans with carbon filters: one just cleans the room’s air and the other is used for room exhaust in the cooler months. You can’t smell or hear a damn thing from that room.

Waaaow! Noice work. You obviously have it knocked. Well done.

Best wishes for continued success.

mujujuju said:
Hi Al,

First time poster; although i've been lurking your threads for a couple of weeks and am just blown away with how knowledgeable and objective you are. Fantastic contribution to the community that you have done here, Thank you!.

No worries, thanks for the compliments.

I'm starting my first grow in a high rise building. I'm actually buying the place for this purpose but i will live there with my girlfriend (who owns a small business). My plan is to make one of the bedrooms into a stealth grow room. Being a high rise my main concerns are odour and noise. If i can find a way to vent into the central ducting without being too visible that will be my plan. Otherwise i will have to vent to a window (and i guess vent into my bathroom when the window washers come) I may need to muffle the exhaust though in either case.

Challenging.

Could you look at my diagram and tell me if it looks ok? I'm basically going to try and copy your design as it looks fantastic and i like the steady flow of ganj.

notes:
-ill be using STG filler and STG starter cubes in regular pots.
-mothers may be in soil i haven't decided yet
-mylar grow tents will be sealed at all times except for venting

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OK. Bear in mind light is emitted mainly from the sides of the lamps. If you're lighting a rectangular area, the lamp should be oriented with its axis across the short dimension of the rectangle.

My main questions are

1. Do you think ill be OK with just 2 600w HPS for flower room to start? Ill add a 3rd 600w if needed.
2. Do i need to aerate the reservoir only while flooding or should i just let it run 24/7 so that the water is nice and oxygeny by the start of flood cycle
3. When i get a dehumidifier, what would be the best placement (that flower tent is pretty much maxed out space wise)
4. Do you think this will be too loud/smelly for a concrete high rise?
5. Is it OK that the 8 inch vortex will only be on with lights? should i consider running it 24/7?

Thanks so much for your input in advance!

If this is the blower you're talking about, should be OK.

You may have trouble finding an inline carbon filter. They usually have duct flanges on one end and suck or blow air through the side of the canister. As such, you may want to use your carbon filter on the intake end of the cooltube duct line instead of inline on the exhaust end. Put the blower downstream from the the carbon intake filter but upstream from the lights so you're not moving warm air through it. Fan motors make a fair amount of heat and need cool air running through them.

A carbon filter on the intake of the fan will muffle it's intake whoosh quite a lot. The duct line will silence the exhaust. You can throttle the fan back with a motor speed controller if necessary.

Suggest you get a UV ioniser to address scents instead of using masking agents. Masking scents are often giveaways by themselves.

A pair of 600s will surprise you. You probably won't need a third.

Aerate your reservoirs 24/7.

matatan said:
hey Al quick question for ya, i believe you answered this before but i couldnt find it, didnt know if it was this thread or your harvest every week thread.

what is the fastest way to establish mother(s) from seed?
they are at day 22 in this pic.
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i plan on harvesting every month, 2 600whps, 2 3x3 ftables

what i plan on doing is to let them keep growing till about day 40(about 10 inches tall) and top. use top as clone to determine sex while the topped plants begin to bush and form multiple tops. 2weeks later sex is determined and ill have several(hopefully) female 'moms'. get as many quality cuttings off of the remaining females to run in the first 3x3 table. by the time its time to get more cuttings for table #2, i will get rid of any moms that i dont like(i will still take a cutting and keep it just in case the smoke is amazing, then after taste/smoke test i will completely discard).

what do u think?

Great plan.

i was told to throw these into flower NOW and when they stretch take a cutting of each then ill know which are female. but my point is that then ill have to wait another month or more to be able to take good quality cuttings... or no? is this the way to go about it?

Don't do that. Much better idea to sex the plants via cuttings. That way, the prospective mums remain in veg mode. A plant that has been shifted to flowering habit has to be revegged for about 6 weeks & cut back a couple of times before it produces proper veg habit growth again.

Good luck.

Swiezy said:
Thanks for answers Al. U r using Canna Substra wich is run-to-waste nutrient. Isn't it better to use nutes for recirculatin systems? Like Canna Aqua?

I'm not using Substra. The ordinary Canna nutrient sold is Aus is Aqua, just isn't labelled as such.

Also room is 520ft3
What do you think about 36 lollioped plants (Dinafem Critical+) in 1m^2 (3,3^2ft) tray? A 1000w HPS over two of them. All together 4 trays. I also plan to use 14l dehumidifier and exchange air once per minute. Can I still expect 0.75oz per plant when plants are so crowded? Is the airflow, light enough?

Best Regards

I think your plants/sq ft density might be a little high. I think I'd keep it to 2.5 plants sq ft. 1m^2 is close as dammit to 10 sq ft, so about 25, perhaps 27 in each 1m^2 tray. Be diligent about removing lower branches to maintain airflow.

Shwagbag said:
Perhaps that discussion is better suited for another part of the forum. Maybe Al would appreciate it if we changed the direction of the thread, back towards making dank. I think that would be a kind gesture.

Yeah. I don't think commercial strategies are wise to discuss in an open forum. Would suggest the authors bin those posts, if they don't mind.

Al B. Fuct · Aug 25, 2012

Most disappointed that all the images accompanying my thread on cloning are gone. The thread is practically useless without them.

I once had a library of several hundred images on RIU, once here Rollitup.org - Marijuna Pics - Gallery. They're gone, too.

WTF, Admin?

Al B. Fuct · Aug 25, 2012

All the images from https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/6592-get-harvest-every-2-weeks.html are gone, too.

Can we get these images restored, please?

Shwagbag · Aug 26, 2012

Bummer dude... There was a crash this last winter and much of what was lost could not be restored. When is the last time you visited the thread? I wanna say I thought they were ok after the crash? Both awesome threads and very helpful for anyone looking to SoG and looking to add consistency to cloning.

Raphael Mechoulam · Aug 26, 2012

Al B. Fuct said:
Waaaow! Noice work. You obviously have it knocked. Well done.

Best wishes for continued success.

Wow, thanks Al! Means a LOT coming from you. Sorry about the commercial strategy talk, I'm new and I don't know what forum to go to for learning these things. I'll delete those posts ASAP if someone can teach me how to do this...

P.S. I can't believe the all those pics are gone! There's no way I could have learned from you as effectively as I have without your awesome pics! They gotta restore 'em...

Justaman519 · Aug 26, 2012

Wow! Hey man!
First time writing anything on the Internet! I've read all your tutorials (I remember you from overgrow!)
Words can't explain how much you've helped the masses become better cultivators! I wish you and yours all the best. Your a celebrity rockstar! Thanks for your incredible patience and knowledge!

chusett · Aug 26, 2012

Great thread..as always from Al B. Only thing I can say is I use the Botanicare line which I love and swear by!

I think they had a data dump awhile back or something, cuz I now have zero journal entries and I'm pretty sure I had a few, I can recall about 3..

Al B. Fuct · Aug 27, 2012

Shwagbag said:
Bummer dude... There was a crash this last winter and much of what was lost could not be restored. When is the last time you visited the thread? I wanna say I thought they were ok after the crash? Both awesome threads and very helpful for anyone looking to SoG and looking to add consistency to cloning.

Nah, all the images are gone. I really miss the library. I had a lot of 'hand drawings' ginned up in Photoshop in there that were handy for illustrating posts. Since I frequently re-address a certain topic, I'd grab those over & over. Grr.

Raphael Mechoulam said:
Wow, thanks Al! Means a LOT coming from you. Sorry about the commercial strategy talk, I'm new and I don't know what forum to go to for learning these things. I'll delete those posts ASAP if someone can teach me how to do this...

P.S. I can't believe the all those pics are gone! There's no way I could have learned from you as effectively as I have without your awesome pics! They gotta restore 'em...

Pretty sure you tick a box on the post & you get some options. Could also edit it to remove the text. Failing that, I am a moderator and can do it for you if you want me to.

Justaman519 said:
Wow! Hey man!
First time writing anything on the Internet!

Aren't you a bit late to the party?

I've read all your tutorials (I remember you from overgrow!)

If you remember anything from 2006 and before, I'm not doing my job very well.

Words can't explain how much you've helped the masses become better cultivators! I wish you and yours all the best. Your a celebrity rockstar! Thanks for your incredible patience and knowledge!

I am positively blushing. :oops:

Thanks.

chusett said:
Great thread..as always from Al B. Only thing I can say is I use the Botanicare line which I love and swear by!

According to Botanicare's site, they offer a 'mineral based' (presumably inorganic) nutrient. This would be the only one in their line which would be compatible with H2O2. Pure Blend Pro isn't compatible. Managing nute cleanliness & thus root diseases is so much easier when you can use H2O2.

I think they had a data dump awhile back or something, cuz I now have zero journal entries and I'm pretty sure I had a few, I can recall about 3..

Yeah, I'm hearing that there was some sort of crash some time back. I hope there's backups.

Bigz2277 · Aug 27, 2012

Al B. Fuct said:
Nah, all the images are gone. I really miss the library. I had a lot of 'hand drawings' ginned up in Photoshop in there that were handy for illustrating posts. Since I frequently re-address a certain topic, I'd grab those over & over. Grr.

Yeah, I'm hearing that there was some sort of crash some time back. I hope there's backups.

It was back in march. They had a group of hackers take over the servers and pretty much messed up every single line of code that went into this site, So they were forced to restore the servers to an image taken in feb. Over a month of RIU posts gone and pretty much all of the pictures.

Unless this was a recent hack on the pictures that i wasn't aware of i dont see them coming back :wall:

But as always Al you know we love all that you do for us. Keep it green brotha :weed:

Petch · Aug 27, 2012

The 'Get a harvest every two weeks' thread had photos on it 6 weeks ago, I know cos I read it then.

sort it out ADMIN

chusett · Aug 27, 2012

Hey Al.. yea I don't use the inorganic one .. but its OK not too bad with the microbes. I use some hygrozyme in there. I found some people dislike hygrozyme cause they think it causes all the nasty slime in the system when it was FINE like a day prior. The truth is.. you need to use hygrozyme pretty much from the getgo.. the system will stay clean. When you put in the zyme.. and you see the brown nastiness a day later.. all it meant is your system was not clean. Just keep doing it with the zyme should be fine. At least thats my way and how i keep em clean!

tyler.durden · Aug 27, 2012

Awesome thread, Al! Sorry all those awesome pics are gone!

Al B. Fuct · Aug 27, 2012

chusett said:
Hey Al.. yea I don't use the inorganic one .. but its OK not too bad with the microbes. I use some hygrozyme in there. I found some people dislike hygrozyme cause they think it causes all the nasty slime in the system when it was FINE like a day prior. The truth is.. you need to use hygrozyme pretty much from the getgo.. the system will stay clean. When you put in the zyme.. and you see the brown nastiness a day later.. all it meant is your system was not clean. Just keep doing it with the zyme should be fine. At least thats my way and how i keep em clean!

I'm not a fan of competing microbe pathogen control because sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't- and by the time you find out it hasn't worked, you have root probs that cut yields severely... but good luck. H2O2 is a sure thing, every single time.

On another topic, I've edited some recent posts to remove discussion of commercial strategies. Keep that sort of thing to private messages, please.

Raphael Mechoulam · Aug 27, 2012

Al B. Fuct said:
Pretty sure you tick a box on the post & you get some options. Could also edit it to remove the text. Failing that, I am a moderator and can do it for you if you want me to.

Hey, Al! I cannot for the life of me find how to alter or delete those posts, so please do so at your discretion. Thanks again for everything. Subbed for more great info

Edit: ROTFLMAO! Just read your edits, hilarious...

Taurich · Aug 27, 2012

Al B. Fuct said:
STG cubes are available at most hydro shops. If your local doesn't have it, request that they stock it. I've just gotten a few plants though an 8 week flowering cycle in STG and find that the performance is similar to Fytocell. I did notice that the plants I recently ran in STG did perform better early on, but then some gnats got into the op & mucked things up a bit. STG cubes also have large air gaps between them, which makes it easier for fungus gnats to get into the rootmass. I'm going to get more STG cubes and try again when I have the gnats eliminated before I make any sort of final verdict on the stuff.

Thanks

I have some more questions regarding your other answers but this one is a bit more urgent.
I've asked my hydro shop about STG, they'd never heard of it so I requested if they could order it in. They call me back and say they're having some trouble shipping it in from the US, and asked if I knew anyone in Aus that stocked it.
So I'm wondering now if you could maybe PM me the number of your hydro shop, so I can give it to the girl at my hydro shop, so they can get me some STG shipped down

Thanks ^^

chusett · Aug 27, 2012

So Al.. you would say there are NO organic nutes that you like. You simply do inorganic? What would you recommend, is canna expensive?Ive used GH.. and Humboldt synthetic nutes and hated em. And h202 commercial grade 50 % i couldnt even find.. (in the past) can you advise where to find?

Thx Al

matatan · Aug 28, 2012

how much veg time would you recommend for 9 plants on a 3x3table under a 600? im thinking about 10days, topped twice... trellis at day 10 of flower(hybrid,8-9week)
what you think Al?

Justaman519 · Aug 28, 2012

Hey brother!
You were helping someone out a page or so back, and you mentioned the proper placement of the lamp on a rectangular table. Are you saying that the long part of the bulb (socket end) should cross the narrow part of the table? Sorry about the misunderstanding. Thanks man, take care!

The bulb should be perpendicular not parallel to the long side of the table?

Shwagbag · Aug 28, 2012

chusett said:
So Al.. you would say there are NO organic nutes that you like. You simply do inorganic? What would you recommend, is canna expensive?Ive used GH.. and Humboldt synthetic nutes and hated em. And h202 commercial grade 50 % i couldnt even find.. (in the past) can you advise where to find?

Thx Al

Depending on location, if you're in US the easiest way to get higher concentrations of H2O2 is at natural health food stores.

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