Its all bullshit.

igothydrotoneverywhere

igothydrotoneverywhere

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petert said:
Polio comes to mind.
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In the generic sense, vaccination works by priming the immune system with an 'immunogen'. Stimulating immune response, via use of an infectious agent, is known as immunization. The development of immunity to polio efficiently blocks person-to-person transmission of wild poliovirus, thereby protecting both individual vaccine recipients and the wider community.
 
RockstarEnergy

RockstarEnergy

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TheMostHigh said:
Mary Jane is a billion dollar hoe that said if its decriminalised they could tax it but like many of us would just grow tons of our own and that would cut them out on millions more, I grow for my own use ( greedy i know but every 1 around here has weak or shitty bud, I'm tired of makin 4hr trips down to NYC to get the goody)
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yea a lot of people would grow it but not everyone can and most stoners are too lazy too. if it was legalized and there were dispensaries everywhere, i think a lot more people would rather go to the store and have it instantly instead of waiting 4 months to harvest their own. especially cancer patients of people using it for chronic illnesses.

they could have some kind of control on growing aswell.
 
klmmicro

klmmicro

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We will see in a few months what will become of Prop 19 in California. There are a lot of people whining that it will make bad law, but the alternative is to keep the status quo. Great for dealers and police, crappy for the rest of us. Yes on 19 as that will be the beginning of a movement in the rest of the states me thinks.
 
steampick

steampick

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The rest of the world, I'd say.

With respect to the comment that everything creative that was ever done was informed by cannabis is to suggest the world began in 1964. Every single cathedral in Europe that was built during the Middle Ages was done without cannabis (and dyes and spices, those didn't come until later), or even good booze. I love pot, don't get me wrong, but people can by plenty creative without it, and in some cases I've seen it complete incapacitate creative people to the point of non-responsiveness. I've also seen it have far from healthy medicinal effects on people with depression and other mood disorders. There is no Magic Pill or Plant; just find what works for you I guess.
 
RockstarEnergy

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steampick said:
The rest of the world, I'd say.

With respect to the comment that everything creative that was ever done was informed by cannabis is to suggest the world began in 1964. Every single cathedral in Europe that was built during the Middle Ages was done without cannabis (and dyes and spices, those didn't come until later), or even good booze. I love pot, don't get me wrong, but people can by plenty creative without it, and in some cases I've seen it complete incapacitate creative people to the point of non-responsiveness. I've also seen it have far from healthy medicinal effects on people with depression and other mood disorders. There is no Magic Pill or Plant; just find what works for you I guess.
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people tend to forget there was once a world without drugs/marijuana.
 
klmmicro

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RockstarEnergy said:
people tend to forget there was once a world without drugs/marijuana.
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When was this time? There have always been poppies and cannabis plants to my knowledge. There has always been yeast and sugars as well. The Chinese have written history including the use of drugs for many purposes...these date back thousands of years. A 2700 year old stash was found intact. At the very least, people were drinking alcohol in biblical lore, and that goes back a couple of thousand years. Why should we would think to be somehow breaking any new ground now?
 
RockstarEnergy

RockstarEnergy

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klmmicro said:
When was this time? There have always been poppies and cannabis plants to my knowledge. There has always been yeast and sugars as well. The Chinese have written history including the use of drugs for many purposes...these date back thousands of years. A 2700 year old stash was found intact. At the very least, people were drinking alcohol in biblical lore, and that goes back a couple of thousand years. Why should we would think to be somehow breaking any new ground now?
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not what i meant by that but ok.
 
OzWeeder

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what did you mean rockstar?

did you mean that there was a time when certain plants weren't 'labeled' as drugs, etc.?
 
RockstarEnergy

RockstarEnergy

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Spanishfly said:
Plant-derived drugs are as old as mankind. Older.
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again....not what i meant. obviously they arent new things but the popularity and purpose is completely different.

steampick was talking about the middle ages and creativity and im pretty sure people at that time didnt chill and get high to find creativity to do the things they did back then. yes marijuana has always been there but it was more for spiritual, textile, and some medical purposes not recreational.

but im pretty sure no matter how much i try to explain myself, im still gonna get shit from people so forget i said anything.
 
steampick

steampick

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There is no evidence of cannabis use in EUROPE in the Middle Ages. There was also no refined sugar, and no spices, and no dyes. They drank mead, which is fermented honey, and quite weak. It was probably one of the most dismal periods in modern (ish) history. My least favourite period, really, but they were still creative.
 
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pothead31

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ok i started smokin at 11 and im 17 now. how can u say u dont condone underage smokin if its not legal 4 u either??? that sounds like sum bs 2 me.
 
Raptured

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RockstarEnergy said:
yea a lot of people would grow it but not everyone can and most stoners are too lazy too. if it was legalized and there were dispensaries everywhere, i think a lot more people would rather go to the store and have it instantly instead of waiting 4 months to harvest their own. especially cancer patients of people using it for chronic illnesses.

they could have some kind of control on growing aswell.
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People can make there own booze but do they? Some people do yes, but most people just go to the liquor store and pick up the goodies. A shit ton of people would grow pot.. though. alot more than people make there own booze. I hope we see marijuana legal soon though, if i was a dealer though... absolutely not. The dealers and the government want the same thing.. interesting?
 
Raptured

Raptured

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pothead31 said:
ok i started smokin at 11 and im 17 now. how can u say u dont condone underage smokin if its not legal 4 u either??? that sounds like sum bs 2 me.
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Well marijuana can cause some mental problems for young people. I am pretty sure it caused me issues in my teens. Depression and mentally addicted to the high. Cannabis is pretty much harmless to people over the age of 25.. and should be legal at the age of 21 to purchase at your local package store or smoke shop. Even though the drug is pretty much harmless its not exactly good for you all the time either. Most states marijuana is still illegal.. so I am pretty sure doctors will be fine.
 
steampick

steampick

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I agree, raptured. I think there is an age where a pretty important psychological transformation has to occur in a young adolescent: from dependency on parents, to adult responsibility. Let's face it, cannabis can be used as a tool to prolong adolescence (party on, Wayne! party on, Garth!), and it can also be used responsibly. Personally, I'd rather see somebody show they can handle adult responsibilities before legally unleashing the Green Monster on them. But hell, if they're 11 and are working and supporting a family, then puff away.
 
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