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If you don't hold a belief in a God(s) You are an atheist. If you do hold belief in a God(s) you're a theist.

As an example, a Buddhist could be an atheist since the following of Buddhism does not entail belief in a God(s) I found this from Buddhanet.net

1. There is no almighty God in Buddhism. There is no one to hand out rewards or punishments on a supposedly Judgement Day.

2. Buddhism is strictly not a religion in the context of being a faith and worship owing allegiance to a supernatural being.

3. No saviour concept in Buddhism. A Buddha is not a saviour who saves others by his personal salvation. Although a Buddhist seeks refuge in the Buddha as his incomparable guide who indicates the path of purity, he makes no servile surrender. A Buddhist does not think that he can gain purity merely by seeking refuge in the Buddha or by mere faith in Him. It is not within the power of a Buddha to wash away the impurities of others

4. A Buddha is not an incarnation of a god/God (as claimed by some Hindu followers). The relationship between a Buddha and his disciples and followers is that of a teacher and student.

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A lot of people take atheism to mean you're the guy that rejects everyone's beleifs. An atheist can be just as spiritual as any theist.

fdd2blk said:

so my whole point was: it seems god insists that you worship him. he comes off as having all this power. i was just wondering what would happen if nobody was left to worship him. what would he do? would he kill everyone for not bowing down to him? or would we all just burn in hell? and if we did all burn what would become of god?

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I would like to know this as well. I want proof there is a god. Show me the proof other than these stories and made up tales.
Is there really a heaven or a hell or are they figmants of our imagination that has been created in these stories.
If we could have actual proof, then maybe I might see what the fuss is all about. Until then, I just believe in people. Some I believe in more than others.
You have to look out for yourself too, make sure you are the model for your friends and family. It is all about respect, how you give it and receive it.
Live life your way!

if you think you are god.. then you are...? ummm?

what are you then?

Whta if you don't BELIEVE in anything but you actually KNOW something?

What if you dont believe or know anything and you actually experienced something? But/AND you don't know what it is...?


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garden knowm = my hero


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Garden Knowm said:

if you think you are god.. then you are...? ummm?

what are you then?

Whta if you don't BELIEVE in anything but you actually KNOW something?

What if you dont believe or know anything and you actually experienced something? But/AND you don't know what it is...?


iloveyou

please label me now..

thank you

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gk, when u were god were u content or lonely?

"when one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion."
-Robert Pirsig

"Suitheism, a term coined by American occultists David Michael Cunningham and Traeonna A. R. Wagener, is the belief that oneself is a deity, without the denial of the existence of other deities. It is formed from sui ("of oneself") from Latin and theos from which the word "theism" (belief in the existence of a deity) derives from Greek.

The term autotheism has meant the same thing in English since 1619. However, some find this term confusing because it has been used in Christian contexts with very different meanings, such as "belief that oneself is God incarnate or that oneself is Christ". Other definitions of autotheism include: "the soul becomes identical with God"; "becoming wholly one with God"; "belief in self-subsistence of God the Son"; and "heresy that Jesus is God in Himself independent of the Godhead". The term autotheism may be preferred over suitheism by etymological purists, since it comes from two Greek words rather than partly from Latin and partly from Greek."

when u were god were u content or lonely?

since you athest's claim to be god all the time ..then you would know..

4theist20 said:

If you don't hold a belief in a God(s) You are an atheist. If you do hold belief in a God(s) you're a theist.

As an example, a Buddhist could be an atheist since the following of Buddhism does not entail belief in a God(s) I found this from Buddhanet.net



A lot of people take atheism to mean you're the guy that rejects everyone's beleifs. An atheist can be just as spiritual as any theist.

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Thanks for pointing that out. I'm quite spiritual in the fact that I believe in the power of MANKIND. I believe we punish OURSELVES for any wrongs we BELIEVE we have done. I call it KARMA.

It is not some extraneous force, but something that we have within us. When we do something wrong, no matter how small, subconsciously this is logged. Too many wrong things and you get a build-up which can help cause depression and other mental illnesses.

We MUST pay for our 'sins', we must forgive OURSELVES and then choose to be a better person from then on.

AzGrOw-N-sMoKe said:

since you athest's claim to be god all the time ..then you would know..

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Being god could never be lonely. As, we are all god.

alot of what was just said i have heard befor..i just cant think where....hmmm...o yea..the bible

Right now I'm pulling mongol faces behind your back amidst a whole room full of sniggers. Get a fucking brain, please.

AzGrOw-N-sMoKe said:

alot of what was just said i have heard befor..i just cant think where....hmmm...o yea..the bible

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u kno what? the book uve read is not what was written by jesus's buddies. that book was labeled with a big black parental advisory sticker centuries ago by the worlds governments. censored and edited, u got the "clean" copy.

but it still portrays the values in with which you speak

I doubt AZ' has read very much of anything.

AzGrOw-N-sMoKe said:

well if you follow the christian text's....god changed his ways after he flooded the world..he said from this point on he would never destroy the whole world again...an since he gave us free will to accept him or not i doubt he would care....well he probly would you see because its like this....say you have a kid you give him everything he needs an never doing anything for himself...well thats one hell of'a leech an since god doesn't want leech's he wants knowldgable people so they can figure mortal things out on thier own with calling on him every single time....also hell differ's from person to person...my hell will be different than your's because different things piss me off....

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actually what god said is he would never again USE A FLOOD to destroy the whole world. the christian god you believe in fully intends to destroy most of this world and the humans in it at Armageddon, doesn't he?

but, try this scenerio instead of yours:
say; you create a man. you give him free will. he does whatever he wants.

why would you punish him...ever? surely, with your unlimited power, these men are little more than an experiment. and the actions of individuals mean very little. and highs and lows of morals are expected to define a mean mority level.

it is non-sensical to punish those only capable of acting within the boundaries you defined.

this god you describe, is very small minded. and so are his followers.

If we're talking about the Judeo-Christian God...shiznit...

We'd all be a hell of a lot better off. Honestly, these days the name of God is thrown around by people who treat Christianity like something they can shape to their own views. I'm not a Christian nor an atheist, but given the fact that the Bible is a very outdated book and set in its ways (just read most of it before arguing), I'm always hard-pressed to see why people put so much faith in a faith that should've been thrown out the window centuries ago...

nicely worded

Wow.. I can't figure out who I disagree with more... The theists the atheists or the people who don't want to be labeled. LOL!

if you think you are god.. then you are...? ummm?

what are you then?

Whta if you don't BELIEVE in anything but you actually KNOW something?

What if you dont believe or know anything and you actually experienced something? But/AND you don't know what it is...?


iloveyou

please label me now..

thank you

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- Garden Knowm

If you think you're a God you're delusional. If you don't BELIEVE in anything but KNOW something you're a liar. And if you've experienced something, but do not know or believe anything I don't know what the fuck you are... Stoned maybe?

I know there are people out there that don't like to be catagorized... People with label-phobia... I'm not one of them. I've earned my labels. I've worked for them. I'm an atheist not because I like the label, but because it's what I am. There is nothing wrong with that in my eyes.

And I don't believe that I am a God.. Also, I think I must be the only atheist here that doesn't think Christianity should be forgotten... or burried.

Christianity is largely responsible for the world we all live in and enjoy today! Christianity SHAPED THE WESTERN WORLD! We owe this fairy tale a lot of credit. I think we should teach the Bible in our public schools! How many atheists do you know have said that before? Now remember when you flame me I did say teach and not preach.

theres alot of bullshit in the holy bible that simply doesnt need to be read by anybody on this planet, especially impressionable children.