ive grown several strains of autoflowers

howdy ive grown several strains of lowryders for ne one who has any questions i may b able to answer the main problem ive had is getting my seeds to germinate ive only tried twice with no success that is seeds ive made myself with 2 autos male and female of course i wait until there literally tiger striped and still no luck with ne of them like 60 seeds ne suggestions please

and yes i mean i grew them and seeded a female on 2 diff occasions with no luck on the seeds they produced and i gave half away with no luck either must b doing something wrong

smitty420420 said:

and yes i mean i grew them and seeded a female on 2 diff occasions with no luck on the seeds they produced and i gave half away with no luck either must b doing something wrong

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I had issues with 'lowryders' when I first started breeding them also. Im at about the 800ish mark now... but I think I might know your problem

The original and LR2 strains I found always had a problem with 'stillborn' seeds, and I tried just about every way to conceive them, but the issue seems to lay in the ruderalis strain.

The ruderalis on it's own has very good success with natural pollination , but becomes weak when crossed with a more vigorous (smoking) strain.

As you create a strain that holds more characteristics of its THC based parent, success becomes higher once again, but you begin to lose the traits that make lowryder popular (height & life cycle)

I actually breed from pure ruderalis stains now and the most successful way is to 'bag and shake' the matured males for pollen and store in the freezer until your females are just starting to develop their flowers.

Apply with a small fine makeup brush (blush brush) and in a soft poking motion push the pollen deep into the lower parts of the flower.

This, in my experience, gives them a very strong and robust seed... and most importantly... virile.

Good luck

good ideas how do u get the straight ruderalis seeds and ive tried cracking them with no luck either i think its the whole stillborn thing but will try the bag and shake then applying the pollen have only let them do there own thing but thanks for the advice. ne new strains uve made that ur really impressed with? later

by breading a female auto with a ruderalis, won't the genetics of the seeds be all messed up? something like 1/2 ruderalis which is a very weak thc producer then 1\2 will have charictaristics of the auto strain but only half of them would be female? I think thats right haha, i'm new here. But if I were you I would force some fems to male to create pollen and save it for your next round. do so buy keeping them under light for an extra week or 2 after harvest or chemically induce them. smitty I guess your my critic on this one, I my have understood you way wrong, sorry if so

what chemicals will induce this, and keep the plants under the lights for 2 more weeks after they should b harvested b/c last summer i left them out till they were popping almost out of the plant and the weed was way past peak harvest like all red hairs and still no luck the seeds were tiger striped and i used a male and female of the same strain (short stuffs)

what I meant was keep them out passed harvest until they produce male pollens, all female plants are capable of producing male organs, the most natural way is to keep them out passed harvest for a couple weeks then save the pollen for the next crop. If you use feminized plants to do this your seeds will be some where around 95% female.....I believe. and those chemicals you were asking about. Colloidal silver, and Gibbererllic acid are the 2 types commonly used, check out a forum on it. You might want to find someone who has actually used them on autoflowers though since the time you will use them will be diffrent then a regular indica or sativa, but the (overflower) method should still work the same.

well I know the boughten lowlife strain was hard to germ, I ended up with 5 out of ten making it, one of the five it too drarfed and mutated I dont think it will make it, another one, is locked in the first round leaves, for about a week now, it might go farther, and then three doing fine. So I'm hoping theres a male and female. and was also hoping for good seeds. This is the lowelife ak47xdesiel strain. If anyone has any experiance with that.
Also, what would happen if you pollenated a auto flower male with a regular bagseed sativa/indica mix female. Could a person genorate his own auto flower strain?

yep, from what I've read you can do this, but it is difficult to do. First off you would want to start with a stable auto, such as lowrider 2, more stable the better. Then cross the pollen from a bagseed or other bread. Out of the seeds created there should be 5-10% that have the auto charicteristics. so grow a bunch of ur seeds to find them. Once you've picked the ones you like and you have a male and female with the auto chars, you can breed them to make seeds, do the same process over again, and again and again if you want. Also I believe you can go back and cross your plants with the original auto parent. It takes a long time to make this short. there are some forums on this topic also

thanx 4 the info lemonhead and ive had a shitty time with sagarmatha autos germing

autolemonhead said:

yep, from what I've read you can do this, but it is difficult to do. First off you would want to start with a stable auto, such as lowrider 2, more stable the better. Then cross the pollen from a bagseed or other bread. Out of the seeds created there should be 5-10% that have the auto characteristics. so grow a bunch of your seeds to find them. Once you've picked the ones you like and you have a male and female with the auto chars, you can breed them to make seeds, do the same process over again, and again and again if you want. Also I believe you can go back and cross your plants with the original auto parent. It takes a long time to make this short. there are some forums on this topic also

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For those of you wanting to create or simply breed autos, it is very similar to crossing any normal strain. But whereas you would normally try to stabilize strains, say indica x sativa to retain heights, buzz, flowering times etc.... with autos you need to account for THC level in your plants as it seems to stabilize, stabilize, stabilize and then without warning drop the THC level from a generation.

Ive created measures to insure this doesn't create setbacks in breeding... but Im still trying to work it out further

Overall the auto males tend to work better for me in stability until about the 5th or 6th generation before breeding one of the original female THC based strains back through it for for another 2-3 generations after that to pump the THC back up.... but requires at least 5 initial generations to be around 85 - 95% stable in height & flowering times.

It is easier to do auto breeding for the shorter growth periods, but a little harder to tweak for stability.

IMO... 90% of the markets autos are not stable due to time constraints and market for seed breeders.

They will always be seen as a novelty

Thanks jimmy, most stable strains? I know they worked on lowryer 2 for a while so i'm guessing thats one for sure.

Also I just checked out a pretty nice organic grow with some monster ak-autos

damn wish i could swap some double buble berry or somethin i got for some lowryder 2 s thought they sounded to shitty to order

ne one lookn for a trade pm me

autolemonhead said:

Thanks jimmy, most stable strains? I know they worked on lowryer 2 for a while so i'm guessing that's one for sure.

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Lowryder #1 was stable and successful, it just didn't have the punch.
Lowryder #2 was just as stable, but had a nice smell and hit. It was well developed and a respected creation.

Problem was people complained of yield and potency, so heavier potency strains were created giving larger yields, higher potency within the same kind of biological timer as Ruderalis (or LR2)

When you create an autoflower, you are either wanting to use the biological timer (10 weeks from seed) or the height (dwarf) as these are the 2 mostly desired traits. You just need to keep this in mind when buying a strain that suits your purpose

Yes it is possible to create an auto that grows 12 inches tall, flowers in 10 weeks and yields an ounce of equal potency bud from it's THC parent... but it just takes time and very selective breeding like any strain.

Breeders just don't have the time (years) to be bothered stabilizing an auto when the market still favors non-autos by a mile which doesn't make their efforts financially optimal

Good point dude, but there is still a need for them. People can grow outdoors where they never could before, i think thats a huge step, I don't think they should be restricted to only certain strains. I don't think it exists anymore but have you heard of the strain that started it all, mighty might? I remember reading about it like 10 years ago.