Jacks vs Bottle nutrients grow comparison. DWC

Skittlez12

Skittlez12

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Does anyone have pictures and/or side by side comparison pictures of grows with Jacks vs any bottle nutrient companies. I see a lot of positive feedback on Jacks.

What are the benefits? I'm eager to hear from others on their personal, hands on experience they've had with this product. Not too interested in what I can read and research personally. Would just like to see the "proof in the pudding" per se.

Looking for bud structure, overall bag appeal, thc content / %, all around yeilds, the steadiness in ph/ec throughout the grow given conditions are optimal, any additional info would be appreciated.
 
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twentyeight.threefive

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Skittlez12 said:
Does anyone have pictures and/or side by side comparison pictures of grows with Jacks vs any bottle nutrient companies. I see a lot of positive feedback on Jacks.

What are the benefits? I'm eager to hear from others on their personal, hands on experience they've had with this product. Not too interested in what I can read and research personally. Would just like to see the "proof in the pudding" per se.

Looking for bud structure, overall bag appeal, thc content / %, all around yeilds, the steadiness in ph/ec throughout the grow given conditions are optimal, any additional info would be appreciated.
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Jack's is a low cost and effective line of nutrients.

Benefits? Low cost, completely water soluble (clear final solution with no precipitates to clog drip/feed systems), and effective.

All the things you are looking for in the final paragraph are going to be strain dependant, except for the last.

My pH drifts up every day my Jack's solution sits while being aerated.
 
Skittlez12

Skittlez12

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Rurumo said:
OP, just search for the main Jack's thread, it has everything you ever wanted to know about it, including people's results. A lot of the top growers here use Jack's (megacrop a/b is nearly identical.)
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I didn't know there was a section. I'll check it out!
 
.Smoke

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Rurumo said:
OP, just search for the main Jack's thread, it has everything you ever wanted to know about it, including people's results. A lot of the top growers here use Jack's (megacrop a/b is nearly identical.)
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3 days on jack's 5-12-26 and the plants are loving it! Bye bye General Hydroponics forever

I took the plunge 3 days ago and transitioned my entire garden over to jack's 5-12-26 from GH's maxi grow / bloom, and all of the plants look fantastic at 647-675PPM! That's pretty incredible to me, and explains why my jack's grown flowers taste and burn better. I have to feed GH's maxi grow /...
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Skittlez12

Skittlez12

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Damn, from what I've read so far I don't want my bud tasting burnt, or chemi like! This is going to be my personal stash. I'm basically running a somewhat base line nutrient ratio right now minus some beneficial bacteria and the bud xl I bought H&G's. But I've got their top booster and top shooter for when they're ready for it. I'm trying to use as little as possible in the end.
 
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Markshomegrown

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I don't know about Jacks vs Bottle nutrients but I get great results with very basic plant food from my local garden center, I use the cheap compost and reuse the soil a couple of times, don't use a ph meter or EC meter, don't really understand why so many growers spend so much money on there crops

my plant 3 1/2 weeks in flower.

 

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twentyeight.threefive

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Skittlez12 said:
Damn, from what I've read so far I don't want my bud tasting burnt, or chemi like! This is going to be my personal stash. I'm basically running a somewhat base line nutrient ratio right now minus some beneficial bacteria and the bud xl I bought H&G's. But I've got their top booster and top shooter for when they're ready for it. I'm trying to use as little as possible in the end.
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Why would your bud taste burnt or chemical like?
 
Skittlez12

Skittlez12

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First page on the link that @.Smoke posted. This guys theory, he was saying his ppms (980-1000) were running high with the GH line and his bud came out tasting bad, from his experience the JR's was able to run a little less in EC/PPM without showing deficiencies. For example with my House & Garden Aqua A+B Flakes 45ml plus multi zen and root excel, and beneficial bacteria Miicrobial mass, I'm seeing 1100-1300ppm. 2.1-2.5 EC's and my plants are happy. I'd love to run as little nutes as possible like he was saying, at like 600-800. Just enough to keep them thriving.
 
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Markshomegrown

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I haven't grown in hydro for years but too much light when ripening off the buds is never a good thing, plant can't use it and it cooks the buds(drys them out) you want the plant to run out of food before you chop them or your going to be smoking the nutes and its going to be a hash smoke.
(curing the bud does help).
Just before harvest I want to see lots of pale yellow leaves(lower canopy), not crisp burn leaves.
 
Skittlez12

Skittlez12

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Markshomegrown said:
I haven't grown in hydro for years but too much light when ripening off the buds is never a good thing, plant can't use it and it cooks the buds(drys them out) you want the plant to run out of food before you chop them or your going to be smoking the nutes and its going to be a hash smoke.
(curing the bud does help).
Just before harvest I want to see lots of pale yellow leaves(lower canopy), not crisp burn leaves.
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I will keep all of that in mind, thank you.

"Too much light" As in too much heat, correct? Or cooking it like you say bc of too many ppfd, too high of a par reading on specific cola sites? The HID cooled hood seems to run my temps up to about 78-80 degrees with my dehumidifier introduced in the room, going to be running duct work today on the exhaust of the dehu. to the outside of the room to hopefully bring temps back down to 73-76°.
 
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Markshomegrown

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Skittlez12 said:
I will keep all of that in mind, thank you.

"Too much light" As in too much heat, correct? Or cooking it like you say bc of too many ppfd, too high of a par reading on specific cola sites? The HID cooled hood seems to run my temps up to about 78-80 degrees with my dehumidifier introduced in the room, going to be running duct work today on the exhaust of the dehu. to the outside of the room to hopefully bring temps back down to 73-76°.
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Early flower I hang the my 600w hps about 20"(40 -50,000 lux)above the canopy, as the plants still if veg (first week)
week 2-6 (my plants take 7-8 weeks in flower) I drop the light 18" above the canopy (50-60,000) lux
last 7-10 days in flower is the ripening stage, the plants starts to shed lots of fan leaves and the plants coming to the end of its life.
There no point blasting the buds with light at this stage, reducing the light(lifting the hood a few inches) and reducing the temps really helps.
 
bk78

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Markshomegrown said:
Early flower I hang the my 600w hps about 20"(40 -50,000 lux)above the canopy, as the plants still if veg (first week)
week 2-6 (my plants take 7-8 weeks in flower) I drop the light 18" above the canopy (50-60,000) lux
last 7-10 days in flower is the ripening stage, the plants starts to shed lots of fan leaves and the plants coming to the end of its life.
There no point blasting the buds with light at this stage, reducing the light(lifting the hood a few inches) and reducing the temps really helps.
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If your plants are ”shedding lots of fan leaves“ it sounds like a you issue?
 
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Markshomegrown

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bk78 said:
If your plants are ”shedding lots of fan leaves“ it sounds like a you issue?
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Come harvest, I don't want my buds full of Nitrogren, maybe you do?
you remove most the fan leaves in late veg/ early flower, I reduce the food in late flower(5th week) so the plants get rid of the unneeded fan leaves.
The results more or less the same, no body wants a full canopy of leaves a week before harvest, could cause high humidity in the canopy and this could cause bud rot, also this will reduce the light getting to the lower bud sites and ripening them, resulting in airy buds.
 
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