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yktind

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It's gunna be close, dude! I hate having to race against the clock when it comes to growing. We did that the last time my lease was up. Luckily we stayed for another year because I would have had to move all of the girls with 2 weeks of flower left. Which would have been bad. I under estimated how long the flower time was.
 

Jad3

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WoW !
Looks great !
What did you use to capture those pics ?
Thank you man! Means alot!
I use a Canon EOS 7D camera with a 50mm lens on the end of a few macro extension tubes. Makes for awesome micro pics.
I love photography and moviemaking even more. Too bad my main subject is a beautiful illegal plant... I wish I could blog or monetize my camera work somehow...

Anyway, today I took these in a rush, so they're definitely not my best work. I'll take better macro shots on harvest day for sure =)

It's gunna be close, dude! I hate having to race against the clock when it comes to growing. We did that the last time my lease was up. Luckily we stayed for another year because I would have had to move all of the girls with 2 weeks of flower left. Which would have been bad. I under estimated how long the flower time was.
Yeah, I'm quite concerned they won't come out perfect. But I'm sure they'll be okay, in the least.
But there's no way they are staying in the tent all alone for 2 weeks over the christmas holidays... So... Chop date is the law.
 

simisimis

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Lol wrote you PM and went to see your thread. And you mention your cam on your last post :))) somehow riu was not showing any alerts about your thread.. not the first time..

Btw, purple is in genetics, but you bring it out best when your temps in flowering at night drops bellow 60F.

Love sugar dripping resin glands you got there, Still looks like you will be smoking some early harvest ;)
 

Yekke

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Sorry for not reading the whole thing but from the first pictures I would really advise you to keep all the electricity above ground level. You are running a HUGE risk once you handle waterings.
I use zip ties and tie the splitters to the tents side rod or upper support rods.
 

Jad3

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Lol wrote you PM and went to see your thread. And you mention your cam on your last post :))) somehow riu was not showing any alerts about your thread.. not the first time..

Btw, purple is in genetics, but you bring it out best when your temps in flowering at night drops bellow 60F.

Love sugar dripping resin glands you got there, Still looks like you will be smoking some early harvest ;)
Yeah man, I'm bummed about the early harvest. But this time, it is what it is. It'll be alright, I prefer milky trichomes to amber ones anyway. Makes for a higher high, as opposed to a stoney body.

Check your PM, I left you some links. :bigjoint:
 

Jad3

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Sorry for not reading the whole thing but from the first pictures I would really advise you to keep all the electricity above ground level. You are running a HUGE risk once you handle waterings.
I use zip ties and tie the splitters to the tents side rod or upper support rods.
Thank you for your concern. The electric extensions are on elevated platforms. And my watering drips into a dripping tray. So I've got all the precautions going on.

I'm safe. Thank you for caring and worrying. =)
 

simisimis

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I'm on the same boat man, I really dislike body stone and that's why I'm growing uplifting energetic euphoric sativas. Or sat dom hybrids. Here's a link to high times article from Mel Frank.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/2nd-grow-c99-and-super-lemon-haze-feminized.626355/page-6#post-9117940

At first I was all going for clear trichs, not even milky. As I went deeper into the study I see now that this is a vague thing. Yes for most sativa dom plants you are looking for clear trichs over milky, amber, peak potency over degraded THC, but there is so much more to it.

When the plant is at it's peak potency is a combination of things that differ per strain genetics, your dialed in environment and bud formation etc etc.
I am now looking for these things:
swollen calyxes
they tell a lot about when plant is finished.
receding pistils
that is a usual indication, but some plant pistils die off and some plants are still shooting new pistils even when they are finished.
capitate stalked swollen resin glands.
the shape of it and the quantity of that.
they should look swollen, but keep nice shape. You can get a feel of it by the size of it's mushroom head, if it's not yet mushroom head, then it's too early, if it starts loosing shape then it's too late.
and last but I'd say second most important factor after swollen calyxes is color.
bare in mind that amber can be eithed degraded THC(CBN)
BUT there is early transcluent amber which is not degraded thc. I's where top potency is located. Not all genetics have it. But if you have the right genetics, you dial in your environment, you provide lots of sulfur, give UVB you will see some nicely looking transparent amber heads between your clear headed capitate stalked resin glands even before resin will start going milky and you will KNOW that this will be some mega smoke ;)

So as you see there is so much more than a simple clear, milky, amber.

also degrading thc will not give you stone, but sleepy mellow effect, less energetic. Indica dom cannabinoid profile gives body stone over head high. Either way, I doubt you are looking for any of them.

There is a lot of thing to take into consideration here and all will come with experience. I'd say you have to grow same plant couple of times, play with harvest windows and other factors, observe and only then come to conclusion. And not even from seed, but clones from same mother, cause even same C99 can be different in so many ways. From simple clear head euphoric racy 'meh' high to the same but with positive, trippy additive that gives you lot of laugh and boosts sex exp.

From your pics I think you still have 3-4 weeks to go but I understand that this is a no no for ya, so just writing for your future grows.
And If I were you I would already go and chop little sample and start drying and then curing. As I said you need to experiment to get to the place where you're heading ;)

Sorry for the ramble. Hope you did not fall asleep in the middle of post haha.


And thank you man for detailed PM reply, now I know exactly what I'm looking for! I knew you're the one to ask and not only from pic quality, but the other details in it like font selection, perspective etc etc.
Rock on!
 

Yekke

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I still rather keep them up. You don't want an accidental water splash fucking your whole electrical system, let alone the safety hazards.
Also it is MUCH easier for me to reach the outlets when the splitter is on the side bars rather than on the floor.

Edit: a 250W light going on 12 hours a day would cost you, at a rate of 26 euro cents per kW (check your current rate for the exact number, this is the approximate price in Germany), 23.4 euro per month. With all the gear beside it should go up to about 28 euro per month.
My computer takes 450W, and that is normal for a student to operate 24/7.
I don't think a 250W will create any suspicious peak in consumption.

I don't think (some do, most never show proof) that LED gives higher yields than HID lights IN THE SAME WATTAGE. They produce much smaller lower buds. Also they cost a fortune for the ones that actually work.

If you don't like the body high (unlike me, I like a good head high WITH a good body high) and looking for strictly head high you should look into specific heady strains, like Lemon Skunk (DNA genetics), Jack the Ripper (TGA genetics) or Sweetest Cindy (Dutchgrown) and chop earlier. When the heads become amber some THC degrade to CBD, CBN etc. which in synergy with THC give the body high.
This also means low temp. for curing and quicker cure time (4 days in my minimum even if just for humidity control)


My 2 cents...
-Yekke
 
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Jad3

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Thanks guys, I love reading long posts! :D

You're both right, and I took a few pointers from both :cool:

As for LED lighting, I'm probably getting a 200w panel soon. COB LEDs, which should kick this light's balls with no problem at all.

And yeah, I love a good head high, BUT I also enjoy a comforting body high once in a while. And it's definitely cool when you get a balanced smoke that leaves you daydreaming/tripping while holding you softly to a nice couch. haha
It's just that this time I'm forced to get an early harvest, and that'll result in a headier high for sure. Specially the Purple Haze... should be a freakin treat! :weed:

I'll post some pics tomorow.

And now that you talk about it, I might harvest all the lower popcorn buds right now. Not only will I get a nice tester (and a slight refil to my ever emptying jars) but also that'll concentrate the growth and maturing on the tops... I guess...

But would that not also make for a slight stress and slow down development on my already tight schedule??
 

Yekke

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When you harvest early you also decrease your yields, potency and taste pretty dramatically.

Take a few popcorn buds, dry them and try them. If you like it - chop the rest.
 

Jad3

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I'll finish 'em for you Jad3

bongsmilie
If only that was a possibility! haha
I'd totally leave my babies to your care.

And then wee'd make tha mega burn voyage through space and time, from the harvest.

Actually I wish I could toke n' chill with a few of our buddies from RIU...
 

Jad3

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Photo update.

Started flushing 2 days ago. Hoping the water comes out completely clear by tomorrow. then it's 4 more days till the chop.

Hairs are getting brown now. Slowly. Still lots of white horny pistils everywhere, but the resin glands are starting to turn milky, so I'm a happy guy nonetheless.

Anyway, here they are...

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Quite a lot of foxtailing going on with the Purple Haze.
The NL is the one with the least trichome production which I'm a little bummed about. I'm really hoping it turns out as some nice smoke...
The Purple TW is the less dense because it's a week younger than the others, so I'm a little sad it won't get it's full potential, even though it's looking nice, and it's the one with the most brown pistils.

But yeah. We've finally come to the final sprint of this season's grow.

4 more days. (and if I could, I'd go for 3 more weeks) :P

I hate to say it, but this time, "It is, what it is."

Have a great week guys!

Expect harvest pics next time.

allthebest :weed:

Jad3
 

simisimis

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What's the humidity in your grow area and temp at canopy level? Those curly edges of leaves look like either caused by that or you overferted them. Foxtailing could have happened due stress from above mentioned or it's just a strain thing.
yeah those tops could still be filled in quite a lot, but it is what it is. I'm not worrying about the quantity, i'm more worrying that it might lack of characteristics of high.
You might just have racy up high with lot's of munchies
but then again you might also have the best harvest you ever had so time will tell ;)
 

Jad3

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The temperature can be anything from 25ºC to 29ºC, really depends on how hot the day gets.
Humidity these last days has been around the 60% mark. Which I wish I could lower a bit.

I'm really on high hopes here though.

And yeah, the boating leafs where my fault, before the flush I gave them a strong last dose, and on some of the buds it's showing the nute pain. But they are already relaxing a lot more since I've started the flush, so I don't think I did too much damage.

About bud fullness, you're very right. That's why I'd like to leave them going from 3 more weeks. But I really can't. I can imagine that in three weeks they would go through quite some packing.

But, I'm already really impressed by now. I mean, just by grabbing them ever so slightly I can already tell these are the densest nugs I've ever created so far! They are solid.
All my others have been fluffy and almost sponge like (It's an exaggeration, but you get it).

On with the show. And it'll be even better next time.

I hope! haha :bigjoint:
 

vitamin_green_inc

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Jade, just wanted to chime in and tell you great job! the foxtaiing is more than likely just genetics and I wish ya could go longer but I inderstamd the early harvest. If you want though, many people do what's called staggered harvests, where you take the upper growth first and give the lower more time to mature. I have done it before and it actually works, not overly amazing, but makes those lower popcorn a much better high!
 

yktind

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Well you can always make extract if the smoke doesn't come out up to par. Sucks man, they look super early.
 
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