subwax
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No - he's an American - do try to keep up!
January 6th, 2021
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zeddd
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I fort you wuz Brit-ish
DIY-HP-LED
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There are many legal experts who will argue with him about semantics, but if you want to be technical it was an autocoup. It's still against the law though and various charges can and should be brought against those involved, the DOJ has a menu of options for prosecution.Alan Dershowitz to Newsmax: Jan. 6 'Stress Test for Democracy'; 'We Passed'
Throwing around the term "insurrection" to describe the events of Jan. 6, 2021, is not just overblown, but dangerous and might ultimately boomerang back on Democrats, according to legal expert Alan Dershowitz on Newsmax.
"We've watered down real insurrections, which we obviously have to prevent, and second we allow the weaponization for one party," Dershowitz told Thursday's "Spicer & Co."
"You can't throw those words around — 'insurrection' — because they'll be thrown back at you. Next time there's a protest by the Democrats, the Republicans will take out this statement and say, 'ah-ha!'"
Dershowitz warned Republicans are already talking about retribution against President Joe Biden after former President Donald Trump was impeached twice by the Democrat-led House only to be acquitted in the Senate, including one trial that included the testimony of Dershowitz himself on behalf of Trump, a president he had not voted for.
"There's a movement to impeach President Biden, and Republicans are saying, 'We don't think he really committed impeachable conduct, but because the Democrats impeached Trump, we're gonna impeach Biden,'" Dershowitz said.
Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and other Republicans have talked about impeaching Biden for "dereliction of duty" surrounding the deadly U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, but Dershowitz told co-hosts Sean Spicer and Lyndsay Keith that Republicans are suggesting "two wrongs make a right."
"No, no, two constitutional wrongs are worse than one constitutional wrong, and they certainly don't make a right," Dershowitz said.
The storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, was a "stress test for democracy," according to Dershowitz.
"It's not an insurrection," he continued. "This is a protest that became violent, a stress test of democracy, and we passed the test. The American public overwhelmingly rejected the use of violence."
Seeking to weaponize Jan. 6 to keep Trump from running for president in 2024 is an unconstitutional abuse of the 14th Amendment, which codifies equal protection under the law and delves into "insurrection" under Section 3.
"There are people who should know better," Dershowitz said. "Professor Laurence Tribe and others are partisan zealots, not constitutional scholars, weaponizing the Constitution for one party rather than the other.
"No, this was not the kind of insurrection that the 14th Amendment had in mind. This is much closer to what [former President Abraham] Lincoln said [in his second] inaugural address: 'With malice to none and charity for all, let's get back to doing business.'"
Dershowitz called for America to "calibrate" the events of Jan. 6 as a protest that turned violent, like many in American history before from both parties.
"If you had people who got up and said, 'Look, we know — we know — that Biden won the election fair and square but nonetheless we're going to overthrow Biden,' that would be one thing," Dershowitz said of the Jan. 6 rioters. "These are people who wrongheadedly believed, some of them at least, that the election was unfair. That's not an insurrection."
Dershowitz hearkened back to the 2000 election between then-Vice President Al Gore and ultimately elected President George W. Bush and his book, "Supreme Injustice: How the High Court Hijacked Election 2000," saying Gore won that election.
"I attacked the Supreme Court for giving the election over to the Republicans," Dershowitz said. "That was my constitutional right. And so we have to understand the difference between protests, even protests that turned violent, and insurrections.
"The First Amendment, the right to assemble peaceably and to petition the government for a redress of grievances, is critically important. And to start calling that an insurrection is to violate both intent of the framers and the words of the First Amendment."
Alan Dershowitz to Newsmax: Jan. 6 'Stress Test for Democracy'; 'We Passed'
Throwing around the term "insurrection" to describe the events of Jan. 6, 2021 is not just overblown, but dangerous and might ultimately boomerang back on Democrats, according to legal expert Alan Dershowitz on Newsmax.www.newsmax.com
Sadly overlooking the purpose of the events of the day. To stop the peaceful transfer of power. In doing so the Republicans wanted the slate of electors thrown out and the House pick the winner, with the Republicans the majority for only a few more days.
zeddd
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Yeah but he’s a dirty nonce
DIY-HP-LED
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Oh I'm sure he's in Ghislaine's black book, funny none of the others involved in the scandal were mentioned, except for a certain prince. There were lot's of rich and powerful men visiting fantasy island, but there were adult (barely) women there too I suppose.
printer
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He is using hisdirection. He is saying the people that stormed the capital were protestors and not part of an insurrection. He is framing the narrative, saying these were poor delusional people. Which they were. He had not said a word about the real insurrection plans to throw out the votes of the contested states electors and have the Republican lead house vote Trump into power.
DIY-HP-LED
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He's been discredited among his peers and nobody is taking him seriously, he seems headed down Rudy's road. Besides he is under a cloud because of his association with Epstein and his bizarre defense of Trump. I wouldn't be surprised if Harvard fired him one day, tenure or not.
CatHedral
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He’d sue them so fast for 1A
DIY-HP-LED
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He might have a morals clause in his contract and if a young lady were to sue him, or other information came to light that could bring the institution into disrepute...
CatHedral
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My grasp of law is poor. I don’t know who has what on whom.
DIY-HP-LED
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You never know what might popup, Jeffrey might have video taped his guests for blackmail and leverage purposes and those videos might exist, stashed somewhere, other records might exist too. Did he help Maxwell with her legal problems, say as an advisor? There are plane logs and people might write more books as people talk more, there are things like plane logs around and other records. Just being there proves nothing illegal, he had adult girls there too and being a pervert is not against the law, if adults are involved. If Alan needs to be flogged in a chicken suit to get his rocks off, it's his business.
Herb & Suds
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Lordy I hope there are no tapes of that
DIY-HP-LED
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A video of Alan getting flogged in a chicken suit wouldn't get him fired, Harvard is a liberal institution!
CatHedral
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If no laws are being broken, he can let his freak flag fly.
CatHedral
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The LBJ sex reels kept shattering projector lenses.Lordy I hope there are no tapes of that
Herb & Suds
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What about video
Do we have to look ?
zeddd
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Black book, scandal! These people are sick child molesters. What’s your point about the adult women?
DIY-HP-LED
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Legal ain't quite the same as moral though and certain behaviors might do the trick.
CatHedral
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Which legally permitted behaviors would those be?
DIY-HP-LED
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Legality