Javadog's Next Adventure

Javadog

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Dang....the Blue Fin is showing balls....that is the second of five beans too,
as the first damped off on me.

From the finder:

Moscaseeds - Blue Fin
Mosca has taken the famous Old Time Moonshine (OTM) from DJ Short and crossed her with his well proven Cinderella 99 male. The OTM is an extremely high producing hash strain with wonderfully complex raw resin, Blueberry aromas. Mosca Seeds combined Cinderella 99 in this cultivar in order add the strong haze uplifting high Cinderella 99 is known for. The calyxes are huge producing large amounts of resin and when pollinated some of the largest seeds Mosca has ever produced.

I liked the idea of working with an Old Moonshine cross.

I will be popping another, but may wait a bit. I will flower the male for pollen.

JD
 

bassman999

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Dang....the Blue Fin is showing balls....that is the second of five beans too,
as the first damped off on me.

From the finder:

Moscaseeds - Blue Fin
Mosca has taken the famous Old Time Moonshine (OTM) from DJ Short and crossed her with his well proven Cinderella 99 male. The OTM is an extremely high producing hash strain with wonderfully complex raw resin, Blueberry aromas. Mosca Seeds combined Cinderella 99 in this cultivar in order add the strong haze uplifting high Cinderella 99 is known for. The calyxes are huge producing large amounts of resin and when pollinated some of the largest seeds Mosca has ever produced.

I liked the idea of working with an Old Moonshine cross.

I will be popping another, but may wait a bit. I will flower the male for pollen.

JD
I remember you mentioning these seeds like 4-5 months ago I believe.
I loved the DJ Shorts Grape Krush, but thats the only thing of his I grew
 

Javadog

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Hey Folks,

I bought two more of the cup racks and now have only baskets
under the clone table.

I rerigged the shop light and the space used in the man-cave
increased again. :0)

IMG_5869.JPG

The extra space in the last rack will be veggies, to be put down later today,
as I am off to watch some Football at my old bros place.

I wanted to share that I am fighting back against a shocked plant.
This was Blue Balz....I zapped when it was really young somehow
and it was just creeping along. So I rinsed its roots off and repotted it
into a small pot of hempy formula.

IMG_5863.JPG

(You can see that there was a lot of distress from that last bug spraying. I went off on them
and hit them a tad hard)

I will report if/when it revives.

Take care,

JD
 

green217

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Hey Folks,

I bought two more of the cup racks and now have only baskets
under the clone table.

I rerigged the shop light and the space used in the man-cave
increased again. :0)

View attachment 3882356

The extra space in the last rack will be veggies, to be put down later today,
as I am off to watch some Football at my old bros place.

I wanted to share that I am fighting back against a shocked plant.
This was Blue Balz....I zapped when it was really young somehow
and it was just creeping along. So I rinsed its roots off and repotted it
into a small pot of hempy formula.

View attachment 3882360

(You can see that there was a lot of distress from that last bug spraying. I went off on them
and hit them a tad hard)

I will report if/when it revives.

Take care,

JD
Are those T5 light fixtures in that last picture? How long do you run the plant under those? If they are t5. I asked because I got a 200 W T5 and a 100 w t5. I never use the 200 W T5 it's A four footer. I use the 2' x 2' 100 W T5 for seedlings and rooting clones. And onto a 600 W H ID light for veg, the on to the 1000 W HID for flower. I'm asking all this because I'm wondering if I could get by with vegging my plants under the 200 watt T5 for a little bit. How far are those lights from your plants?
 

Javadog

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I use 4 X T8s under that board slung in the closet you see, making 128W

I use 2 X HOT5 under the clone table, making 108W there.

That light slung across the gap now is a 26W LED shop light that Home Depot
was dumping for a very reasonable price not that long ago.

So, I am basically using 100W of T5 under my clone table and is probably the
best lit of the three areas. :0)

JD
 

green217

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I use 4 X T8s under that board slung in the closet you see, making 128W

I use 2 X HOT5 under the clone table, making 108W there.

That light slung across the gap now is a 26W LED shop light that Home Depot
was dumping for a very reasonable price not that long ago.

So, I am basically using 100W of T5 under my clone table and is probably the
best lit of the three areas. :0)

JD
So you're not using any of those fluorescent lights for any type of significant vegging, huh?
 

Javadog

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No, I am patient. I find that I pay up from with a longer veg time,
but I work a lot of plants and so as they start to get ready I have a
steady stream of starts to work with.

4 X 4' long T-8s Veg a decent plant, structure and density-wise at least,
if not in speed, and that is what counts to me.

JD
 

green217

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No, I am patient. I find that I pay up from with a longer veg time,
but I work a lot of plants and so as they start to get ready I have a
steady stream of starts to work with.

4 X 4' long T-8s Veg a decent plant, structure and density-wise at least,
if not in speed, and that is what counts to me.

JD
Yeah that's what I got a 4 bulb 4 foot 200 watt T5 fixture. So how far off the plant keep it right on top of them right? And how tall do you veg your plants with that light? Sorry for all the questions I'm just trying to figure out if I can utilize it and save 400 watt of electricity vs running my 600 when they're still Wee Little Things.
 

bassman999

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Yeah that's what I got a 4 bulb 4 foot 200 watt T5 fixture. So how far off the plant keep it right on top of them right? And how tall do you veg your plants with that light? Sorry for all the questions I'm just trying to figure out if I can utilize it and save 400 watt of electricity vs running my 600 when they're still Wee Little Things.
I ran T5 almost on top of them without burn.
 

green217

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how tall you can grow your plant under one during veg. And still get decent note spacing. So I can know the limit.
 

Javadog

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OK, I figure that my 4 T8s and my 2 HOT5s both light what is under
them similarly.....and I used to Veg out 5 Gallon containers with some
success....so, let me wander back in this thread for an old post....BRB
 

Javadog

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Here is a 132W T8 setup:


Those look nice and have a good node distances....

Oh, and Bass is correct, the height of these sorts of bulbs is controlled
more by the footprint that you need than any other consideration.
i.e. I will lift them up to see that their light reaches more plants...but not
typically for heat/burn issues.

JD

P.S. Just found this Somango....yeah...heheheh....no lack of verdance here:


LOL, a embarrassment of riches.
 

Javadog

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From what I read T8s have very long lives....and I have not seen any degradation
that I might have noticed, but I have learned that there are newer, more efficient,
T8s being made these days (inc an Ushio ;0) and I am thinking about replacing them.
 

bassman999

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From what I read T8s have very long lives....and I have not seen any degradation
that I might have noticed, but I have learned that there are newer, more efficient,
T8s being made these days (inc an Ushio ;0) and I am thinking about replacing them.
Why were the CFL bulbs that were so hyped a decade ago so crappy? I mean T8s were lasting yrs and yrs, but a cfl last months to a yr if lucky.
 

green217

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Why were the CFL bulbs that were so hyped a decade ago so crappy? I mean T8s were lasting yrs and yrs, but a cfl last months to a yr if lucky.
$ i guess? I wire homes for a living and they were all the rage 8-10 years ago. They never lived up to there claims as far as bulb life. They do suck, LED will take over I believe. They to are supposed to last many years, and the amount of lumens they put out per watt also destroys everything else out there to my knowledge. I want to build a light bar or 6 one of these days, but I'm going to wait till I either have a grand laying around, or the prices drop on them.
 

Javadog

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Green is right....note the hype at that time...should have been seen as
a warning. LOL

Hey,

I just got out of the shower after harvesting the pollen from three males that
I took out of their tent a couple of weeks ago.

Optimus Blue, Chaka Khan, and Skull and Bones

This was the first time, and my process is already improving, with less plant
material taken along with the pollen itself.

....but I was unable to separate the pollen all that well.

===> I am going to have to get a pollen screen

I am thinking about something very crude, like this (click to see closer):




Here they are:
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The plant material was not perfectly dry and so I am using
a paper lid for a week or two before I finally sift this material:
IMG_5871.JPG

So, lets hear what your thoughts are on sifting pollen. Thanks folks!

JD
 
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