jiff fire cracker really not work?

So I've looked it up and found nothing. Some people say it works some say it doesn't. Yesterday I used jiff with 1-2 g and a lil veg oil and felt nothing and it tasted gross. Today I tried again at 310 at 35 min instead of 330 degrees for 22 min. And once again nothing. Also I don't have a scale I'm putting as much as I can fit in blunt plus a lil extra
 
Yea I read that after but what I don't get is how its working for others that don't do that process. Just like people saying they make it in the microwave just fine.
 

fumble

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how much do you have to work with material wise. You could just decarb it and make medicated peanut butter.

Not really sure why it's not working for you if it's not the decarb
 

skepler

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That way says 293 for 7 min would be the best if I'm reading correctly
Yes if you want quick. But notice how fast it degrades after the peak. If you are trying to decarb leaves/plant material, it is hard to do it evenly.
If you make canna butter or QWISO/BHO and mix the latter with some oil, you can watch the decarbing take place. By the time it gets to 240° there is obvious out-gassing that goes on for 25 minutes or less depending on how old the material is. From what I have gathered, it appears the THCA starts converting when the material is dry, and will be decarbed in about 3 months at ambient temperature. The problem with the really fast and really slow decarbing processes is the degrading of the THC after the THCA decarbs. The THC converts to CBN, sleepy stuff, really fast at 293° and slowly over time, but if you are waiting 3 months for decarbing one would probably lose 30-40% of the THC. I've been baking with cannabis for 40+ years. Extraction and decarbing seems like the most efficient and effective way to go that I have found.
 

Dogenzengi

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I Decarb my herbs at 220 for 15 to 20 minutes. I know by smell, my Budder and coconut oil cookies are pretty strong.
2 ounce of trim and fluff in crock pot with a measuring cup in a water bath.
I use either a 1lb of butter or the equivilant in Coconut oil for 12 hours at a low temp I use 180-200 as a range.
I make sugar cookies it is a really simple from scratch recipe, my cookies are Green.
I have the dose down, 23 -25 grams per cookie.
1 cookie, pain relief and appetite enhancer, still want to smoke.
2 cookies, make you feel Good for 3-4 hours Great for going out, at 2 cookies you don't need to smoke for 3 hours easy.
3 cookies will have you giggling probably laughing to much for smoking or being out and about.
4 is borderline mushroom type buzz depending on your tolerance if you like that Buzz you know what to do.

I like eating 3 no wish to smoke for Hours.
Empty stomach with a cup of hot coffee or tea.
Bless,
DZ
 

skepler

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Dogenzengi, Do you really mean 23-25 grams per cookie? I use 2.5 grams, and I haven't tried more than one, maybe one and a half. If you get 3/4 lb back from the 1 lb of butter that was started with, that would be 341 grams, and would be 14 cookies from 2 oz of trim?
 

Dogenzengi

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23-25 grams "cookie weight".
The recipe uses one cup of "oil" so I try and use two zips of trim and Fluff.
1 ounce of Bud instead of trim will be the same or slightly stronger.
I get 24 cookies I think, I have always eaten a bunch w my GF and buddy's after baking.
They are pretty Solid Cookies or Dense as Dark Matter as I describe them, they are not hard or tough.

I have made capsules with my Cocnut oil, 4 = tsp,
4 caps, pain relief and u can go to work, take every 4 hours.
12 caps is were a decent buzz comes in, I made the caps for my friend with throat cancer.
I also made green dragon, turns out the GD has a pain relieving numbing effect to his throat so it helps his pain.
Bless,
DZ
I have a fresh Bottle of Green Dragon and a batch of cookies for him.
I have to make some QWISO for a vape pen for him next.
I drive him to chemo and Radiation Wednesday thru Friday so I stay over a few days.
Bless,
DZ
 

Dogenzengi

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1 cup = 8 ounces when measuring oil so 227 grams of oil split among 30 cookies = 7.56 grams of oil each.
227 grams of oil was treated with 56 grams of trim and fluff
That is the way I figure out my cookies, the buzz speaks for itself.
Bless,
DZ
 

Dogenzengi

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Do rice crispy treats, very simple and uses a smaller amount of butter.
1/4 cup butter is required so I make a 1/2 cup to allow for loss during creation.
so add at least a 1/2- 1 ounce of Decarbed trim and fluff to the oil cook, strain, clean and wash butter than make rice crispy treats.
Bless,
DZ
 

Dogenzengi

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I really believe the OP was using the wrong temp to Decarb.
I don't think fire crackers are Any good, never worked for me.
Now Decarb some Kief and you can swallow it and get high just make a ball and swallow then have a hot drink to help it break Dow, but Don't eat the weed.
Just make oil even if you only have a few grams of bud.
Say an 1/8 of bud, Decarb 220 not higher and be sure you are accurate.
I use a point and read thermometer.
Use a stick of butter and cook low and slow till glossy and black. At least 3 hours again not over 220 I go 180-200/ 12 hours.
Strain with a stocking squeeze the piss out of it and wear gloves.
Now make dinner and desert, garlic bread with dinner use your oil, make popcorn for desert and use some butter on it.
eat it all up in an hour you will be buzzed.
 

skepler

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Dogenzengi, Thanks for clearing that up and your other input. When you start with a pound of butter and two zips of trim, what is the weight of the canna butter/oil you end up with?
 

Dogenzengi

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I would say you lose about a 1/4 of the weight, but I get it back.
I throw the oil soaked bud in a pot of hot water, let steep for 30 minutes, pour into mugs add some honey and serve.
Warm and fuzzy
Bless,
DZ
 
Holy crap lol way more to it than one thought (and one use to think one knew something about something) but here's the thing my (buddy) lives in a state that hasn't legalized it yet so all that is available is crap bud and more expensive slightly less crappy bud as dro. And that's really it so that's why buddy wanted to try the fire cracker.
 
Well you guys seem to know a lot so here's why all this started. One day buddy realized hey smokeing helps with Buddy's extreme anxiety, insomnia, anger, a lot of over stress and worry, and pain. Buddy hates the way pills feel taste and make u feel. So smoking was OK but now buddy has gone from less than half a skinny blunt a day to more than 5 blunts rolled as fat as buddy can and that's just way to expensive. So one turned to a firecracker but if you guys know a better way to use the meds for what buddy need plus still feel the effects plz enlighten me
 

Dogenzengi

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He is better off smoking it if it's swchag.
Otherwise try a recipe don't like mine? Google it.
Have a nice day.
DZ
 
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