JigFresh's Grow #2 : Vertical Scrog - closet diy dwc - 650w - Headband + Casey Jones

excellent work, and super updates with the pics n'all. Many thanks. Luv the use of the bungie cords for stabilizing. looking forward to the continued forward progress. great work man!

Thanks guys. I really appreciate the supportive words... they mean a lot.

The plants are here. However I don't know if they will get comfy tonight. I'm beat. Sad day. My mom's cat... who I found for her... passed away this morning. While any cat passing is sad, this guy was really something special. He was only 4 years old... too young. He was sick his whole life so it was not a shock... however it is still hard to not have him around. It probably sounds silly to everyone, but he was the only little brother I've ever had (i'm an only child). Little buddies name was 'Otis'. I'm going to miss him a lot. I included a pic.

Also in the not so good day catagory... we heard from a dear friend who told us he and his girlfriend of 2.5 years broke up. And not even just a break up, but a dramatic movie scene break up with the restaurant and throwing plates and screaming and hitting. The highlight (i think) was when she stood and yelled to the entire restaraunt that she had just wasted the past 2 years of her life... ouch. I won't bore you with the details (too late), but she's tripping. He's a good guys and she's just nuts.

My wife also lost her cell phone tonight.

And I'm sick from the dinner we got out.

BUT.... WE GOT PLANTS.

1 - Casey Jones (trainwreck x sour diesel)

1 - Sour Grape (purple elephant x sour diesel)

Sorry to hear bro. Maybe the phase of the moon has something to do with it,, almost full moon. Sorry about the cat. Hope things get better,, they will

Rest In Peace, Otis.

Perhaps you should name your favorite phenotype after him.

I know how you feel Jig, well, certainly to a large degree. Its strange how closely we bond with our animals, given that we are such a highly social species and yet cannot truly communicate with our pets.

Or maybe we can communicate with them even more clearly, animal to animal, without all of our pretentious human bullshit to get in the way...

Well, this one is for Otis brother!

"It probably sounds silly to everyone, but he was the only little brother I've ever had (i'm an only child). Little buddies name was 'Otis'. I'm going to miss him a lot. I included a pic."

There ain't nuthin silly about feeling for your pet and friend. Its real to you/those araound you and that's all that matters. Sorry to hear of your loss. Sounds like Otis had some great caregivers in his life! Walk On!!~~~~~

Not exactly what I thought I would find when I checked in with you. My condolences to you and your family.

Glad to see you're still on the cutting edge with your green thumb! Subscribed and I'm taking notes!

DG

jigs, i'm sorry to hear about the loss.

on a brighter note, closet looks great and congrats on the new plants.

Thank you guys so much. I know I say thanks a lot.... and that I appreciate things. Well I always mean it, but this time you guys have really touched me. I don't have many people I talk to in Real life (not a complaint), but it's hard during times like these not to be able to talk to people. But I have my all my brothers on Rollitup. I've met a couple of you (rollitup members) and I'm going to meet quite a few more of you in the coming months. It is so awesome that we all can have a place like this that not only nurtures our love (growing), but nurtures our souls with love, support, and comradarie. And all of that comes from the members. Rollitup provides the location, but all you guys make it the place to be.

So again (broken record)... it means the world to hear what you guys said and to know that you care a little bit (if not a lot).

Thank you.

From here on in we will try to avoid tragedy and turmoil.

LET'S GET GROWING

(shout out to hulk)

I gave the two little girls their first feeding in their new big wonderful home. They had been getting a little nutes at the shop... don't know how much, but I'm not too worried about it.

I haven't hooked up my ph/ppm meter yet... oops.

I added the nutes anyways. I was aiming for 700 - 800 ppm. We'll see how they like what I give them and adjust from there. It will be nice to be able to feed the different strains differently. And it isn't too much of a pain to do the nutes twice. It would be tough to have 6 diff strains with 6 diff nute preferences.

I took a few pics of what I am using at the moment.

Dutch Master - Advance Grow A + B
DM - Max Grow
DM - Silica
DM - Zone
Botanicare - Cal-Mag Plus

Oh... according to the Dutch Master website I've been mixing the nutrients wrong since I started growing. I have always added them in the order they list on the nutrient calculator... but I was pretty much backwards. Oh well... I can't imagine my plants growing even better... that would be great.

The girls have only had about 30w of flouros on them... I've been scared to run the 400 mh. They look so fragile and that light is seriously amazingly brigt. Honestly I cannot imagine for anything what a 1000w mh would look like. This 400 looks like my last 400 when you have sunglasses on. It's a freak bulb. I don't know, I just dont want to give the girls a sunburn.

I'll probably start them on the light tomorrow when I can watch them to make sure they are ok.

This grow is gonna be fun.

Allright!! Let the fun begin!

wow. this looks like a really fun grow to watch. subscribed!

Thanks for the tribute, my wonderful son jig-fresh. Otis loved his big brother almost as much as he loved his adoptive mom (!). And thanks to all you rollitup members out there. Your words mean a lot as I attempt to move on without my four-legged little buddy.
May he rest in peace. And may your next grow be all you desire and deserve.

jigfresh said:

The girls have only had about 30w of flouros on them... I've been scared to run the 400 mh.

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My clones go under the 400 watt MH as soon as they root.

EDIT: In fact, I have ROOTED all my clones about 8" from an aircooled (glass in place) hood. With 100% success, nonetheless! So if they can ROOT under it, then your's are ready to
EDIT OVER.

They were anywhere from 2-8.5" long...

Substantially less established vegetatively then your plants, and I have seen no adverse affects!

If you wanna wait, it won't hurt...if you don't, it won't either

Glad you got the girls goin Jig!

bigjesse1922 said:

My clones go under the 400 watt MH as soon as they root.

EDIT: In fact, I have ROOTED all my clones about 8" from an aircooled (glass in place) hood. With 100% success, nonetheless! So if they can ROOT under it, then your's are ready to
EDIT OVER.

They were anywhere from 2-8.5" long...

Substantially less established vegetatively then your plants, and I have seen no adverse affects!

If you wanna wait, it won't hurt...if you don't, it won't either

Glad you got the girls goin Jig!

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The last grow I read of yours was amazing..one of the best I have seen on this site. Just wanted to say good luck on this grow I'm sure it will be a success, and sorry about Otis.

Grow it On!!~~~~~ looking like things be shaping up swell .... no pun intended ... LOL! Walk on!!~~~~

Everything is coming together. I lit my 400 for a few hours last night. They seemed to like it just fine. So funny... I feel like a first timer again, with the new set up and all. I keep thinking, "I hope I don't kill the plants." Once they start growing a little I'll feel better. I think the biggest thing they have against them now is the shock from having roots cut (when I buy them they are in rock wool cubes with about 12 other clones... so you have to cut them up, cutting roots. It really killed me too, becuase the girl at the shop just totally cut through these rather major roots you could totally see along the side of the RW... oh well.

Another interesting thing is the plants/ strains. I'm slightly more excited about the Sour Grape strain... for no apparent reason... but I really like the Casey Jones plant, she is a beauty.

I'm also really excited to try sativa dominant plants. I was looking into genetics for fun.

Sour Diesel - 90/10 (s/i) - ~11 weeks
Trainwreck - 90/10 (s/i) - ~ 9 weeks
Purple Elephant - ? - ~9 weeks

Some sites are silly. Printing stuff that is obviously wrong about different seeds. Talk about shady companies... many of these seed banks look like the biggest rip offs to me. I'm not saying I know everything about breeding and seeds, but I can smell bull crap when it's right in front of me.

Also... what is the deal with $500 for 10 seeds of Elephant Purple. Is BC seeds smoking something that doesn't grow?

Let's hope the girls get over their root trauma and strat growing today.

You got any H2O2 goin Jig?

bigjesse1922 said:

You got any H2O2 goin Jig?

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To keep the tank nice and clean I use Dutch Master Zone.

Now... I fear getting flamed with this post... but word from my nutrient company (i know i know... they are just trying to sell something) said this about H2o2:

In answer to your enquiry I would not use Dutch Master products with Peroxide, in fact I would not be using Peroxide at all, or with any
products, whilst you are growing your plants. H2O2( or more commonly Hydrogen Peroxide ) breaks down into hydrogen and water when you add it
to your system. What is not told however is that the oxygen released is a free radical oxygen! This free radical oxygen is what give Hydrogen
Peroxide its killing power. However it doesn't just attack pathogens - it attacks everything! Your plants roots, your nutrients are all affected in a negative way with Hydrogen Peroxide. You are better to use a gentle root zone optimizers like Zone whilst you are growing your plants and use Hydrogen Peroxide as an in between crop sanitizer. Recent research conducted by the University of Switzerland showed that using Hydrogen Peroxide as part of a nutrient solution caused oxidative damage to plant roots. I hope this helps!


Also on the DM website it says this:

Hydrogen Peroxide
Commonly known as H2O2, is intended for cleaning equipment and treating well water only. Often, it is sold on the premises as “extra oxygen” for roots. H2O2 is a highly reactive molecule. It is an oxidizing agent that is unstable in solution and tends to rip away electrons from other sources such as living matter (including root cells, bacteria and your skin!!) and chelating agents as well as reacting with other organic matter. This is what makes it an effective “cleaning” agent. However, for this reason it is not recommended in root zones or nutrient solutions. Adding too much H2O2 can kill your plants by damaging the roots, and render ‘Hydroponic Nutrient Solutions’ less effective by breaking down chelating agents.

It is recommended that you follow label instructions on dilution rates and treat water beforehand with H2O2 and allow at least 24 - 36 hours for most of it to react and become water and oxygen. Then use this “sterilized” and oxygenated water for your nutrient solution. Remember to keep the nutrient temperatures between 60 - 70 F / 16 – 22 C to keep the oxygen dissolved in the water.

So... no, I'm not using H2o2. Thanks for asking though.

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Research is one thing, especially when it comes from companies who want to sell you a product to replace the one they are attacking...

I'm no expert....but all the ones I do know, who grow in water, use h2o2...

Food for thought...

bigjesse1922 said:

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Research is one thing, especially when it comes from companies who want to sell you a product to replace the one they are attacking...

I'm no expert....but all the ones I do know, who grow in water, use h2o2...

Food for thought...

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Thanks man... most of them also don't do vertical screens. Not saying one has to do with the other, but just because everyone else does it doesn't mean much to me. I've known h2o2 my whole life as a sterilizer. Sterilization means to kill everything. Sterilization is something I would want to do to a kitchen counter, or a lab table, but not to my living plants. I have seen many others use it with great results. I'm happy for them.

Also, on the DM website it does give you instruction on how to use the h202 more effectively... so you can't blame them of shutting out the option:

"treat (nutrient) water beforehand with H2O2 and allow at least 24 - 36 hours for most of it to react and become water and oxygen. Then use this “sterilized” and oxygenated water for your nutrient solution. Remember to keep the nutrient temperatures between 60 - 70 F / 16 – 22 C to keep the oxygen dissolved in the water."