"Just add water soil" problem

Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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PadawanWarrior said:
My parents got me one. Then I set up a BBS and my parents got sick of the phone line always busy so they got a separate line for me. People would send me games while I was at school. My favorite was probably Racing Destruction Set. You could build your own tracks, add weapons, and change gravity. Kids today are spoiled, :bigjoint:

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So am I. I'm playing warzone on a series x right now. Lol
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Jimi O'Connor said:
Such as? I was thinking maybe if i could get something to feed them like immediately. If the leaves are lime green thats a nitrogen def?
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Alaska Fish Fertilizer is at most hardware stores. Neptune's Harvest is good too. You could always give salts for an immediate fix, but you want to do organics.
 
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Hydro Hippie

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Jimi O'Connor said:
2 and a half days ago, and there still lime green, wtf.
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Waiting for organics to be mineralized can be frustrating. Especially when you're trying to fix a problem immediately. This is exactly why I use the hybrid method I layed out earlier. My advice is use some salt fertilizers (available to the plant to utilize immediately)to get things green again.

I know you want to stay loyal to the soil with an all organic grow. I promise you; using salts in moderation will not hurt your soil. I formulate microbial biostimulants for a living and have a good understanding of soil health. I would not lead you a stray.

Salts can cause issues in the rhizosphere when used repetitively over time. To help alleviate any harm the use of salts my do to my soil I brew and apply compost tea weekly. This replicates and feeds the microbes and the microbes feed the plant.

If you want to say 100% organic then you will need be patient waiting for the microbes to break down the organic matter making it available for the plant to use.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Hydro Hippie said:
Waiting for organics to be mineralized can be frustrating. Especially when you're trying to fix a problem immediately. This is exactly why I use the hybrid method I layed out earlier. My advice is use some salt fertilizers (available to the plant to utilize immediately)to get things green again.

I know you want to stay loyal to the soil with an all organic grow. I promise you; using salts in moderation will not hurt your soil. I formulate microbial biostimulants for a living and have a good understanding of soil health. I would not lead you a stray.

Salts can cause issues in the rhizosphere when used repetitively over time. To help alleviate any harm the use of salts my do to my soil I brew and apply compost tea weekly. This replicates and feeds the microbes and the microbes feed the plant.

If you want to say 100% organic then you will need be patient waiting for the microbes to break down the organic matter making it available for the plant to use.
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You're name is an oxymoron. Hippies don't grow hydro.

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Jimi O'Connor

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Hydro Hippie said:
Waiting for organics to be mineralized can be frustrating. Especially when you're trying to fix a problem immediately. This is exactly why I use the hybrid method I layed out earlier. My advice is use some salt fertilizers (available to the plant to utilize immediately)to get things green again.

I know you want to stay loyal to the soil with an all organic grow. I promise you; using salts in moderation will not hurt your soil. I formulate microbial biostimulants for a living and have a good understanding of soil health. I would not lead you a stray.

Salts can cause issues in the rhizosphere when used repetitively over time. To help alleviate any harm the use of salts my do to my soil I brew and apply compost tea weekly. This replicates and feeds the microbes and the microbes feed the plant.

If you want to say 100% organic then you will need be patient waiting for the microbes to break down the organic matter making it available for the plant to use.
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Yea that sounds like a plan....i have foxfarm big bloom which is a instant plant food, its worm castings and bat guano. Will that help with whats going on? I thought the plant needed nitrogen when the leaves are loosing there color?
Also if i already put the gaia green in can i still add this foxfarm big bloom without causing any more problems?
 
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Hydro Hippie

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Hydro Hippie said:
Thats hilarious! Thank god I'm just a touch too old to be a Millennial...not by much.
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Jimi O'Connor said:
Yea that sounds like a plan....i have foxfarm big bloom which is a instant plant food, its worm castings and bat guano. Will that help with whats going on? I thought the plant needed nitrogen when the leaves are loosing there color?
Also if i already put the gaia green in can i still add this foxfarm big bloom without causing any more problems?
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You are correct, the Fox Farm Big Bloom is an organic fertilizer that is available to the plant immediately. When you look at the label on a fertilizer there will be three numbers telling you the ratios of macro nutrients Nitrogen-Phosphorus-Potassium (N-P-K) In this case they are (0-.5-.7)
This means that it contains 0% Nitrogen, .5% Phosphorus and .7% Potassium.

Since this is an organic fertilizers the amount of actual NPK by volume is very low. You are pretty much paying for water. If we look at a powdered salt like Jack's RO which the base ferilizer I use; the numbers are 12-4-16. I would suggest you find a salt fertilizers similar ratios and use that.

If your plants were in front of me this is how I would proceed. First, flush the soil with water with a pH of 6 using a volume of water until you get a good about of run off. Then I would test the pH and nutrient content of the run off. This will tell us how much nutrition is left in the soil and alert us of a pH issues if one exists.

If the pH is normal and the ppm of nutrients in the runoff is not excessive I would then feed with a full stretch of a salt fertilizer of your choice. Generally this process will produce visual results in 24 hrs or less.
 
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Jimi O'Connor

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Hydro Hippie said:
You are correct, the Fox Farm Big Bloom is an organic fertilizer that is available to the plant immediately. When you look at the label on a fertilizer there will be three numbers telling you the ratios of macro nutrients Nitrogen-Phosphorus-Potassium (N-P-K) In this case they are (0-.5-.7)
This means that it contains 0% Nitrogen, .5% Phosphorus and .7% Potassium.

Since this is an organic fertilizers the amount of actual NPK by volume is very low. You are pretty much paying for water. If we look at a powdered salt like Jack's RO which the base ferilizer I use; the numbers are 12-4-16. I would suggest you find a salt fertilizers similar ratios and use that.

If your plants were in front of me this is how I would proceed. First, flush the soil with water with a pH of 6 using a volume of water until you get a good about of run off. Then I would test the pH and nutrient content of the run off. This will tell us how much nutrition is left in the soil and alert us of a pH issues if one exists.

If the pH is normal and the ppm of nutrients in the runoff is not excessive I would then feed with a full stretch of a salt fertilizer of your choice. Generally this process will produce visual results in 24 hrs or less.
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So just to be clear the lime green is because of nitrogen specifically? Or just plant "food" in general
 
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Hydro Hippie

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I would guess you have multiple issues going on. I think your plants were overly wet for an extended amount of time, that's one issue. They were never watered to run off so things may have accumulated in the soil.

The plants look deficent as well. I'm not sure if that is because the pH is off or they are out of nutrients. You should reseach nutrient lock out due to pH. You can have all the right nutrients in the soil but if the pH is off the plant is unable to process them as food. If you water to run off as instructed above and measure the pH and ppm I could be more helpful.

I'm guessing that the solution to your issue may not be a simple as add nitrogen. Follow my previous instructions; flush your soil and measure the runoff and well go from there.
 
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Jimi O'Connor

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Ppm? Idk what that is, i obviously know ph i have been ph my water to 6.0-6.3, a grower on YouTube said that was a good place to keep the ph "between 6 and 6.4. I figured thats about in the middle of the 5.5 to 6.5.

Im not sure what ppm is, idk if i should be embarrassed by that or not lol I guess you can let me know

Also how long does gaia green take to work?
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Jimi O'Connor said:
Ppm? Idk what that is, i obviously know ph i have been ph my water to 6.0-6.3, a grower on YouTube said that was a good place to keep the ph "between 6 and 6.4. I figured thats about in the middle of the 5.5 to 6.5.

Im not sure what ppm is, idk if i should be embarrassed by that or not lol I guess you can let me know

Also how long does gaia green take to work?
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A grower on YouTube said, :lol:
 
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