Just another poor Cali connection review :(

MichiganMedGrower said:

I pissed him off. But it seems he is still interested in what I am trying to explain.

How you doing man?

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Doing really well. Managed to not get stressed this year for xmas
Been doing more reading than posting.
Have to catch up on what was posted above later.
I remember a post you created recently about nutrient toxicities possibly causing stress and causing balls to appear.
Wanted to get your opinion on nutrient deficiencies as a stress factor causing male parts or hermies. Not sure what they are correctly called now lol.
I'm having a feeling in healthy but calcium deficient soil, it increases the chance of getting balls. Of course this is just a feeling that could easily change next grow lol.
Did you have an increase of hermies or male balls show up when you had the Ca deficiency last grow?

Buba Blend said:

Doing really well. Managed to not get stressed this year for xmas
Been doing more reading than posting.
Have to catch up on what was posted above later.
I remember a post you created recently about nutrient toxicities possibly causing stress and causing balls to appear.
Wanted to get your opinion on nutrient deficiencies as a stress factor causing male parts or hermies. Not sure what they are correctly called now lol.
I'm having a feeling in healthy but calcium deficient soil, it increases the chance of getting balls. Of course this is just a feeling that could easily change next grow lol.
Did you have an increase of hermies or male balls show up when you had the Ca deficiency last grow?

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Yes I had some balls during the worst of it. And I haven’t seen those in years. When I corrected the problem. Balls went away for the rest of the Grow. I had just picked them off as they appeared.

genuity said:

Sure,it happens..

These plants are not that sensitive,as most make them out to be...

Did he say if it was "low ball herms" or "nanners in the bud herms"?

It's a big difference.

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He said in another thread earlier that he didn’t see anything until it was too late and the lowers were seeded.

MichiganMedGrower said:

Yes I had some balls during the worst of it. And I haven’t seen those in years. When I corrected the problem. Balls went away for the rest of the Grow. I had just picked them off as they appeared.

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Interesting.
I have seeds that I have ran several times now. My own seeds all created on the same branch of a plant. Still have some left.
With no deficiencies they did not hermie.

This grow I have plants, all the same seeds from that branch, in new ffof with 10% added perlite and in my own soil mix that has gypsum added and was cooked. Those plants are showing no balls and have not had a calcium deficiency.

The 2nd group's soil is unique. I harvested very small plants in 3 gallon pots and ran them as a no-till to see how it would go.
Sorry if this is long but it reads better if I fill in the details.
It was a unique opportunity. I had plants under 12/12 from the start then they flowered much sooner than I expected. Had to transplant 1 week into flowering into 3 gallon pots. They never developed a root system and so I decided to try the no-till.

Cut out the center and added a seedling then top dressed with Bio Live, Castings and some of my freshly cooked soil.
Big mistake was I never added gypsum until about 10 days ago. Don't know why I did not add some early, just dropped the ball on that.

Many of the no-till have had calcium deficiencies, I have also been fighting some nitrogen deficiencies in some of them. Mag def showed up but has been contained pretty well.
Anyway the no till pots have some excellent crystal so far but 5 out of 8 developed balls.
I usually am an under fertilizer. I was pissed I forgot the gypsum and gave them all a healthy dose 10 days ago.

I'm 6 weeks in and haven't seen any new balls develop. Only one plant the largest of the topped plants has shown a few late nanners. It has the worst calcium deficiency. It is getting chopped early.

MichiganMedGrower said:

He said in another thread earlier that he didn’t see anything until it was too late and the lowers were seeded.

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So you ran a total of 2 CC stains? I ran 12 different CC strains. So I think I have a better idea of how the marjory of their strains perform. I saw their "Original Sour D" herm as soon as it went into flower and had to cut it down. The CC beans I had were a combination of problems. Some were hermies right off the bat and other appeared to be simply carrying male traits. Regardless, i didn't have any problems with feminized seeds on the TH seeds lineup, and my TH seeds were planted in the same climate with basically IDENTICAL CONDITIONS. I'm one of many describing this issue with Cali Connection, i've never had so many problems with any other seed bank.

TrumpOG said:

So you ran a total of 2 CC stains? I ran 12 different CC strains. So I think I have a better idea of how the marjory of their strains perform. I saw their "Original Sour D" herm as soon as it went into flower and had to cut it down. The CC beans I had were a combination of problems. Some were hermies right off the bat and other appeared to be simply carrying male traits. Regardless, i didn't have any problems with feminized seeds on the TH seeds lineup, and my TH seeds were planted in the same climate with basically IDENTICAL CONDITIONS. I'm one of many describing this issue with Cali Connection, i've never had so many problems with any other seed bank.

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Your story is changing.

And we are all aware you are blaming the Seeds.

Maybe if you yell louder more people will listen?

The grower who gifted me the Seeds runs them all the time. He would not have had me try them if they were problematic.

Diesels and og’s tend to reverse easily. It’s the chem in them. Chem came from bagseed in the first place. All the best strains are difficult to grow.

And every Grow is different. But you already know that from experience right?

Dude your theory is nothing more than "your theory". If you want to go through and try explain how CC is legit on the hundreds of bad reviews I won't try to stop you. You're assuming they just reversed when its very possible for a feminized seed to carry male traits if it were pollinated by a herm. Go ahead and defend CC all you want what I'm making clear is that I'll be avoiding that seedbank like the plague. I know you think you have a lifetime of experience with your 600w light but i'm sorry IMO it doesn't make you an expert. Swerve has ripped thousands of ppl off and we're not happy. There are countless reports of seeded units because of CC beans. How do you explain that, they just happen to consistently reverse and doesn't happen with any other seed bank??? Give me a break, I've grown plenty of OG's and Sours for years and have never had this problem.

TrumpOG said:

Dude your theory is nothing more than "your theory". If you want to go through and try explain how CC is legit on the hundreds of bad reviews I won't try to stop you. You're assuming they just reversed when its very possible for a feminized seed to carry male traits if it were pollinated by a herm. Go ahead and defend CC all you want what I'm making clear is that I'll be avoiding that seedbank like the plague. I know you think you have a lifetime of experience with your 600w light but i'm sorry IMO it doesn't make you an expert. Many people have agreed with me and liked my posts, you on the other hand appear to be a party of ONE when it comes to defending CC. Swerve has ripped thousands of ppl off and we're not happy. There are countless reports of seeded units because of CC beans. How do you explain that, they just happen to consistently reverse and doesn't happen with any other seed bank??? Give me a break, I've grown plenty of OG's and Sours for years and have never had this problem.

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It is pretty obvious you are lying about growing them for years. You don’t have basic knowledge about this.

I’m not defending Cali connection or swerve. I am saying you have no idea what you are talking about and don’t know what you did wrong.

All marijuana plants can reverse. There are easier plants to grow than elite clone crosses.

And you didn’t even quote my experience right even though I bothered to answer your ride post to my profile right here. But I bet even 1 of my 600’s will outproduce your Grows this year.

Read Marijuana Botany by Clark. Learn something from your mistakes. That’s how you get to be a great grower.

Oh. And fuck off!

Lol didn't mean to strike a nerve there...go ahead and order a bunch of CC beans and then get back to me in a few months. Be honest about how much salvageable herb you end up with. It can't be seeded.

I'm not saying you can't get lucky and get a good bean from them. Honestly their Grape Kush is legit but that is literally the only strain I would recommend out of the 12 I tried. To me, that's just outrageous.

80s during the day 60s at night is a big temp drop that could stress out the plants I believe

Doubtful, it was never a problem before. I wouldn't consider that to be a very big temp drop. I'm in California, typically it's pretty easy to grow outdoors as long you're not in the desert or right near the ocean. From the 90's to the 50's would be more of a dramatic temp drop IMO and that does happen in desert cities like Bakersfield or Barstow.

MichiganMedGrower said:

It is pretty obvious you are lying about growing them for years. You don’t have basic knowledge about this.

Read Marijuana Botany by Clark. Learn something from your mistakes. That’s how you get to be a great grower.

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The big mistake was choosing Cali Connection. Believe me I learned from my mistake, I'll be avoiding them from here on out. Also I see no need for calling me a liar, name calling isn't what these forums are here for. I never said you were a straight up liar. I just think you're wrong to just make a bunch of assumptions and then treat them like facts.

I don't think reading one book from the 80's is going to automatically make anyone a great grower but I'll check it out.

meanwhile, the neighbor next door was having great success with his pollen chucking project.

Lol perhaps he did set up a catapult or some type of circus themed pollen cannon that I'm unaware of. I'll have to give him a call

if someone was flowering a male nearby, its not completely crazy to think your plants could have become pollinated from it. Just can't rule it out as a possibility. Nature always finds a way.

TrumpOG said:

I have say you sure are going out of your way to defend CC when there are a colossal amount of bad reviews. Unfortunately companies like High Times & Leafly are promoting CC for some reason. That's why I think they're still in business. Also the endless herm reviews are more of a recent thing. I'm not going to give you a vivid description of my environment or post and pics for safety reasons. (Not everyone prefers to lay out their entire life here). What I will tell you is that it was ran outdoors in a good environment where it doesn't get too hot or cold. 80's in the day 60's at night. I've had long time great results with reputable clones in this environment. Seeded units are very common for growers that ran CC. Just search "Cali connection" here on RIU you will see & hopefully understand why i titled it "Just Another". I've got over 10 yrs exp under my belt, please i ask you nicely to not assume I'm newbie a grower just because I'm new here.

And honestly I mean this respectively but if you believe that blanket statement that a legit hermie is rare you're the one lacking knowledge/experience. I've seen plenty of real life Hermie's in person. It's actually quite common when popping large numbers of feminized seeds. Roughly 5% of femmed beans will often herm or end up being a male. If you ever planted more than a few of them you would know this from hands on experience. I've been in the field long enough to know this. Unfortunately CC seems to be up way over 5% when it comes to their femmed beans herming. Thanks to them herms are the opposite of rare.

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No. 5% of fem beans will not herm.

Pics or it didn't happen. If you had that many do it then you did something wrong. Its that simple and if you have seen that many herms either you are making a lot of mistakes or the other people growing them are.

MichiganMedGrower said:

He said in another thread earlier that he didn’t see anything until it was too late and the lowers were seeded.

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Exactly.

Anyone that chops their plants and goes "oh shit, these buds are full of seeds" didn't pay attention to the plants.

So many untruths in this thread...

Like he said,what he did wrong was order Cali con... that simple people.

Everybody wants to be right...

whitebb2727 said:

No. 5% of fem beans will not herm.

Anyone that chops their plants and goes "oh shit, these buds are full of seeds" didn't pay attention to the plants.

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Ever think that maybe someone had a lot of patients and needed a lot of plants, making it impossible to baby sit all of them all time? That's quite a blanket statement. Not everyone here has a handful of plants that get attention 24/7

What makes you so sure about feminized seeds can never be hermaphrodites? Care to elaborate on this?

genuity said:

So many untruths in this thread...

Like he said,what he did wrong was order Cali con... that simple people.

Everybody wants to be right...

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Thanks for the input. Much appreciated

TrumpOG said:

I have say you sure are going out of your way to defend CC when there are a colossal amount of bad reviews. Unfortunately companies like High Times & Leafly are promoting CC for some reason. That's why I think they're still in business. Also the endless herm reviews are more of a recent thing. I'm not going to give you a vivid description of my environment or post and pics for safety reasons. (Not everyone prefers to lay out their entire life here). What I will tell you is that it was ran outdoors in a good environment where it doesn't get too hot or cold. 80's in the day 60's at night. I've had long time great results with reputable clones in this environment. Seeded units are very common for growers that ran CC. Just search "Cali connection" here on RIU you will see & hopefully understand why i titled it "Just Another". I've got over 10 yrs exp under my belt, please i ask you nicely to not assume I'm newbie a grower just because I'm new here.

And honestly I mean this respectively but if you believe that blanket statement that a legit hermie is rare you're the one lacking knowledge/experience. I've seen plenty of real life Hermie's in person. It's actually quite common when popping large numbers of feminized seeds. Roughly 5% of femmed beans will often herm or end up being a male. If you ever planted more than a few of them you would know this from hands on experience. I've been in the field long enough to know this. Unfortunately CC seems to be up way over 5% when it comes to their femmed beans herming. Thanks to them herms are the opposite of rare.

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my question is why did you even buy the seeds if you read so many bad reviews?

genuity said:

So many untruths in this thread...

Like he said,what he did wrong was order Cali con... that simple people.

Everybody wants to be right...

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llnknth said:

my question is why did you even buy the seeds if you read so many bad reviews?

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My brain works properly I read the bad reviews AFTER I got the seeds and had bad results. I understand there are huge stoners here though so no worries lol They had many strains I was after, unfortunately i didn't look into their recent reviews enough to realize what I had gotten myself into.