Just in case you thought Israel was a nice country, just misunderstood

bravedave · Apr 25, 2016

kelly4 said:
Yes.

Yeah, the people of South Vietnam would hate to have the freedom and prosparity that South Korea enjoys.
Not surprising that Democrats, who started the war and then lost the war, would now say it was unnecessary. You know, after over a million dead.

NLXSK1 · Apr 25, 2016

ttystikk said:
A TWELVE YEAR OLD 'ADMITTED' TO A CRIME UNDER DURESS IN AN ADULT PRISON.

Please don't tell me you believe the authorities over her family.

In which case can the Israeli's be believed? When there is blood on the floor? When a bomb has gone off? Never?

Now, I agree there is a good chance that confession was under duress and may be total bullshit.

However, neither you nor I will ever know the exact truth of the situation, nor the intent of all of those involved.

What seems to be clear is that a 12 year old was carrying a prohibited weapon.

ttystikk · Apr 25, 2016

vostok said:
Anyone else noticed Obama's left the jews along of late, kinda neat letting a country 'Be a Country'

That's because Mr Obama really dislikes Mr Netanyahu. I don't blame him at all.

ttystikk · Apr 25, 2016

limonene said:
just in case you thought america was a nice country
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/18/life-as-a-drone-pilot-creech-air-force-base-nevada

Preach, brother.

NLXSK1 · Apr 25, 2016

ttystikk said:
Preach, brother.

Who picks the targets that get blown up?

Chunky Stool · Apr 25, 2016

ttystikk said:
I respectfully but strenuously disagree. LOTS of people read these threads, read the arguments on all sides, then come away with a broader perspective than before.

Some of these people just don't have much in the way of real knowledge about the situation in the Middle East in general, or of the Western Power's deep and long standing involvement in the creation of the Jewish State.

Therefore we are educating people, as well.

The bigoted schmucks we argue with are perfect foils for us to present the truth. We can't force people to accept truth, but it is our responsibility to present it in the best way we know how.

That is scary. RIU members aren't always credible... (putting it mildly)

Chunky Stool · Apr 25, 2016

The Israel situation is complicated.
Everything is complicated.
People who seek simple solutions to complex problems might as well be looking for unicorns & leprechauns. Good luck mother fucker; it ain't gonna happen.

NLXSK1 · Apr 25, 2016

Chunky Stool said:
The Israel situation is complicated.
Everything is complicated.
People who seek simple solutions to complex problems might as well be looking for unicorns & leprechauns. Good luck mother fucker; it ain't gonna happen.

I can agree with this. I can also agree that 99.9% of the people that post here are not well informed about the truth. I cant say what the truth is although it exists.

So, why is it our business if Israel wants to nuke Iran for security?

Chunky Stool · Apr 25, 2016

NLXSK1 said:
I can agree with this. I can also agree that 99.9% of the people that post here are not well informed about the truth. I cant say what the truth is although it exists.

So, why is it our business if Israel wants to nuke Iran for security?

Because we are allies with Israel??? Because we would be obligated to get involved if it boiled over and other countries got involved???
Yep. That's definitely why it's our business...

UncleBuck · Apr 25, 2016

ttystikk said:
You have badly mischaracterized my words. I have nothing at all against Jewish people themselves. I have many Jewish friends. I said so above.

However, the State of Israel is NOT an official arm of the Jewish religion, and the Jewish State (they call themselves that) is engaged in genocidal activities specifically outlawed under accepted international law.

You are confused. Not me.

what genocide?

the palestinian population keeps growing and growing.

not sure why they are the only people ever to have multi-generational refugees either. seems kinda fucked to me.

UncleBuck · Apr 25, 2016

NLXSK1 said:
99.9% of the people that post here are not well informed about the truth.

it's much less than that, but no worries. you are safely within that number.

potroastV2 · Apr 25, 2016

bravedave said:
Lol. Where you been? You share one uninformed post in a childish attempt to degrade and I call you on it and you disappear only to come back and project your own butthurt and meltdown. Funny stuff.

You would have more credibility if you came back and rebutted my retort. I can only assume then that you agree... Democrats in the 70's snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

I'm the one who is uninformed? It was you who said that we won the Vietnam War, which is wrong.

You replied that the Paris Peace Accord was somehow relevant, which it is not. You said that Vietnam participated in that because we were winning. Wrong again.

That was signed in 1973, and the war continued for the rest of that year, and 1974, and right up until April 1975 when the NVA took control of Saigon.

Then we retreated. If you call that winning, you're very wrong.

From what I've seen from you, you're completely wrong on most everything. That's why I don't have the time to correct all of your delusional ideas.

:mrgreen:

ttystikk · Apr 25, 2016

UncleBuck said:
what genocide?

the palestinian population keeps growing and growing.

not sure why they are the only people ever to have multi-generational refugees either. seems kinda fucked to me.

Maybe because their lands were systematically stolen from them and no one responsible has given them any alternatives? ...responsible parties to include the USA, which was intimately involved in creating the mess in the first place?

kelly4 · Apr 25, 2016

bravedave said:
Yeah, the people of South Vietnam would hate to have the freedom and prosparity that South Korea enjoys.
Not surprising that Democrats, who started the war and then lost the war, would now say it was unnecessary. You know, after over a million dead.

1.) We were not there so that the South Vietnamese people could have "freedomz".

2.) I am not a Democrat. Ask anyone here who's been paying attention.

3.) You spelled prospErity wrong.

4.) You are stupid, dickheaddave.

Elwood Diggler · Apr 25, 2016

bravedave said:
Thank you for your service. We won the Vietnam war, until the Dems fucked it up. Much like they have now done in Iraq.

nixon?

what did we win in iraq other than paying china back $4 trillion with interest? makes fucking sense to impose democracy on a people who believe democracy is blasphemous

Bud Assasin · Apr 25, 2016

Jimdamick said:
Maybe you should have read the piece and learned a little. Truman's stance on the creation of Israel is a well know FACT, as is the letter signed by the US Senators to any country that accepted aid is a FACT What, do you think I'm making this shit up? Why don't you show me something, seeing that all the evidence that I have presented to you seems to be useless. Oh, and maybe you should put down that bong for a while, seeing that you get some weird thoughts when high (Vaginatron?)

I just want to point out a very important fact first before I point out a few more, you did not present any facts, you merely typed some information into your computer and it appeared on a weed site. I can see you have no experience with real facts because you don't site any other literature. You get frustrated when people don't take your information serious. So try not to take it so personally and frustrate yourself, unless your intention is to make me smile which you have, kind of like watching a fat kid struggle to tie his shoes.

Soo... If the US blackmailed all the other countries with a carrot and the other countries wanted the carrot so they sided with the United states, wouldn't that also mean that all those other UN countries chose the AID over what was the right choice to begin with. So concluding that the countries wanted the AID more than the right thing wouldn't that make them all just as bad as the US? also these other countries are part of the UN, so anyway you slice it it is and was a collective UN decision no matter what anyone thinks. Is it right? nope... does it mean your wrong? maybe, in the end all that is needed is the UN approval and that's what happened, you can spin it anyway you want but those countries who changed there tune based on the US with holding aid are just as bad if not worse.

Bud Assasin · Apr 25, 2016

Jimdamick said:
all the evidence that I have presented to you seems to be useless.

I will have to admit I could not agree more with this.

Jimdamick said:
you get some weird thoughts when high (Vaginatron?)

Yes I always have weird thoughts when I am high, I suppose when you get high you just log onto the internet and attempt to argue with other stoners about politics and then shatter your glass house by accusing high people of having weird thoughts? You can't be serious.... LMAO!!!

Bud Assasin · Apr 25, 2016

ttystikk said:
I have nothing at all against Jewish people themselves.

This is funny because.

ttystikk said:
caught by Israeli forces, you'd be abused in jail, held for months or years without trial, tried without a defense, and then imprisoned for years or decades. And that's IF you weren't simply shot on the spot.

Saying a lot about the Jewish people here!

Bud Assasin · Apr 25, 2016

ttystikk said:
LOTS of people read these threads, read the arguments on all sides, then come away with a broader perspective than before.

I think your deluding yourself, people will see what a complete and utter nut bar you are and just look for all the funny shit you say and laugh at you for it and then come away thinking they hope to see more threads so they can show there friends and have a good time.

ttystikk said:
I respectfully but strenuously disagree.

Be careful you don't want to strain yourself disagreeing LMAO!!! That

ttystikk said:
Some of these people just don't have much in the way of real knowledge about the situation in the Middle East

is the funniest thing you have said so far. I can't wait to here your next president say things like this LMAO!!!

Yourself included BAW HA HA HA HA HA !!!!

ttystikk said:
Therefore we are educating people, as well.

Whats this wee shit... Your not educating your on a fucking weed site, your entertaining everyone BAW HA HA HA !!

ttystikk said:
We can't force people to accept truth, but it is our responsibility to present it in the best way we know how.

There you go speaking for everyone else again, your a hoot, I think it should be your responsibility to never change and to keep posting the best way you know how.

Holy Fuck your Awesome!!!

WeedFreak78 · Apr 25, 2016

Chunky Stool said:
The Israel situation is complicated.
Everything is complicated.
People who seek simple solutions to complex problems might as well be looking for unicorns & leprechauns. Good luck mother fucker; it ain't gonna happen.

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