Justice Department announces crackdown on mmj
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MurshDawg
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I will answer your questions.
1) yes most definitely. It's legal for me to make my own beer, mead, whine, and fuel. I can also grow my own fruits, vegetables, and we can still grow our own tobacco.
2) nothing is wrong with making money however usury charges, restrictive supplies and ever increasing demands do not warrant the amount of money "compassion clubs" charge.
3) Come on, man! that's some tired ass old hippie point... might as well bitch about "the man" seeding all the clouds and fucking with the weather. (meaning everyone has heard it before and it's a non issue)
unclebobbyb
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I like this opinion. Act like a small pharmacy, quiet and safe, know what your selling is not good for small children and generally just have a little more class.
Ill let you slide on 1 bcause I am not going to debate you knowing a ton of compassion clubs which charge fair market value prices, but if you walk in there like a shmuck they are going to wax you for your meds.
On #2 as far as your statement "restrictive supplies and ever increasing demands do not warrant the amount of money compassion clubs charge" - you must never have taken an economics course because supply and demand is what makes a market.. but its actually harvest time, bud being a seasonal outdoor plant like any other, meaning certain times of the year pricing and supply is better than others.. but price really all depends on the quality one is looking for.
#3 though makes you sound ridiculous. I say if "the man" is looking to pick a fight anywhere, might as well start in order with most harmful at tobacco instead of writing it off as a "non-issue" like you, because it has been acknowledged but not acted upon. Instead of continuing to fight the least harmful drug of all as a schedule 1 drug.. continuing to call it a gateway drug, although heroin and cocaine are schedule 2, less harmful with more medicinal value according to the US Government and Department Health Services, they should go after even Alcohol which is attributed to the majority of violent crimes, and is both physically and mentally addicting, as to where marijuana is mentally addicting at most.
The war on drugs is based on stats such as 50% of crime is drug related, neglecting to mention it's because drugs are considered a crime that this statistic is so high.
Alcohol prohibition didn't work and neither is marijuana prohibition and as an American who is supposedly free. I feel I should be able to ingest something which I feel benefits my quality of life instead of having to revert so a substance which I feel intoxicates me MORE than cannabis, such as alcohol, and effects me mentally in more negative manor as well. BECAUSE AFTER ALL.. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Cannabis helps my quality of life, ensuring I can live free, independently, and happy.
MurshDawg
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Uhhhhhh, I have taken econ; both basic and macroeconomics. Supply and demand do make the market and dictate price but when you have the ability to control supply; you have the ability to control the price. This is what the current version of prop 203 will allow; manipulation of price by control of the supply. If you think that a COMPANY that is making this much off of patients have any incentive to lower their prices given the current legislation; then I want you to come on down to Yuma, son, i got some beach front property to sell you. As far as this seasonal stuff goes; I have paid the same amount for the same weight for a LONG time. The only thing that changed with season was quality.
Honestly, I could care less if the gubment made it all legal and gave the go ahead to big pharma as long as the junk they sell has a warning label and an 800 number for rehab. Obviously, my "the man" comment was lost in translation somewhere. I was meaning that everyone already knows how bad alcohol and tobacco is. We have decades of statistics and scientific evidence to back up those claims. So, to state that is to state the obvious, savvy? The war on drugs will soon be over; give it another 5-10 years. We'll either go bankrupt or regain our senses. The thing about the declaration of independence is that it ain't the constitution. So, don't go and think you have all those crazy rights, now lol jk
bob harris
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There is a difference between making a reasonable profit and profiteering. Most of the trouble comes from these people that want to have 5 patients and 60 plants..then give each patient 1oz per month..that leaves the care giver with literally pounds of meds that they want to sell in an un taxed and unregulated manner. The work involved in managing 60 plants isn't a 40 hr a week job, and cost to grow isn't that high.
The overages from 60 plants yields far more than "reasonable profit". It yields un godly amounts of money.
BeaverHuntr
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I have taken quite a few economic classes at ASU and graduated with a degree in engineering. You are right " Supply and Demand make a market", however when the market is supposed to be Not for Profit how are low quality meds priced at 400.00 justifiable?? How does one charge the same price ( $400.00 a ounce) for Grand Daddy Purp - a mid grade .. Hmmm... doesnt seem too "not for profit " in my eyes. Seems like jumping through a lot of legal loop holes in benefit of the club/dispensary owner rather than for the good of the patient.
bob harris
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I agree..The vast majority of "care givers" grow mid grade fast maturing Indica's..because they can make more money than growing 14 week Sativas. In most place Top grade meds never become available to the masses..they get consumed by the few.
MurshDawg
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is that why there are 15 different 'kushes' and no real hazes?
BeaverHuntr
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Kush's just finish fast as opposed to Sativa dominant strains and their 80 day finishing times.. Kush's are just a big hit in Cali and they pretty much set the trend for MMJ in the USA, there are a lot of OG strains out now too.
MurshDawg
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i can see gettin down on some real OG chronic not the generalized term. I remember when ATF was the shit too but come to think of it those are indicas. I think I prefer sativas. I was on world of seed kinda thought about gettin some columbian gold, a couple more thais, or that south african shit.
do you or have you ever grown 60 plants? do you know what it takes to run an operation that big? do you grow any plants?