420weedman
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nice dude .. good luck ! i might be joining you soon ... i just took a cutting and stuck it in soil 2 nite... really thinking about what type of hydro set up i want to do
K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)
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boricuaboi
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dude your gonna be fucking happy as hell i switch on wensday oooo i can wait!!!
-=4:20=-Guy
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No I am following the Fox farms Directions in the per galon amounts to the T and every time I do the PPMs come in about 300ppm shy of the corisponding PPM listing.
So follow the chart to the T and you should be all good.
Gmoney17FL
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Nice thread. I like it.
GypsyBush
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K1Ng5p4d3 said:K1Ng5p4d3 said:
Nice man...
You'll love it...!!!
K1Ng5p4d3 said:
Cool, let's see some pics...
K1Ng5p4d3 said:
Good start... I am not sure what grow big is.. but be careful not to feed it a toxic soup too soon...lol...
K1Ng5p4d3 said:
Cool... start weak and up it as they grow...
K1Ng5p4d3 said:
What kind of rubber did you use...?
It's not foam huh...?!? you sure like to change people's directions.. hahaha I'm just joking.. I am sure you did what you could with what you had...lol..
K1Ng5p4d3 said:
I can't wait to see what is going to happen...
K1Ng5p4d3 said:
Cool, I wanna see it...
K1Ng5p4d3 said:
No... you don't NEEEEED one, but it sure helps getting maximum yields, but being able to feed the plant well, without nute burning it...
Glad to hear... I am very happy with this hydro shit...lol...
Simple is best....
Good Luck...
WOW!!!! everyone is switching... cool...
Good Luck Man...
I agree that you can do it, just not as effectively as if you were measuring... if you don't burn it... you will prob be underfeeding it...
Cheers everyone...
Best of Luck K1NG..!!!
Gypsy...
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
Im not gonna go without the ppm meter, i just cant pick one up for another week.Thats another reason why im only doin a 1/4 of the recommended dosage of growbig(fox farms veg nutes - specifically for hydro). I also had to add some of my ph buffer to up the ph. The distilled that i used had a ph of 5.5, n then i added nutes, and it dropped the ph down to somethin like 4, so i used my ph up, and now the water is at a perfect 5.8 ph. Im lovin hydro already man, its so easy to fix any problems with the ph, or hell even the nutrient solution man - all i gotta do is dump the water and add new shit, and im set, no flushing, no dumbass bullshit. thats also gonna be a HUGE benefit when i get closer to harvest, cuz i wont have to flush the last 2 weeks, ill just have to run all water through the system. Its pretty effin cool man. I have officially impressed myself 
, lol.
So now i just need to deal with my temps man. I dont have any windows or vents that i can exhaust to without raising some typa suspicion, so basically i have my exhaust ducting just hooked up to where im not blowin hot air back into the closet my tent is in, its blowing the air out into the larger room, n i have the windows open to provide cold air into the room, which works cuz the rooms temps itself is like 60-65 degrees. But INSIDE the tent man, it gets fuckin HOT still. it runs right around 85-sometimes 90 degrees, with LOW humidity. I dont have my oscilating tower fan in there yet, so i know that will cool shit off a little ass bit, plus its got a built in ionizer too, so i wont have to worry about smell when the time comes. But i think that my babies are gonna have to adapt to thrive in a dry hot climate, lol, cuz i dont have a whole lotta room in there, and keepin the overall temp down below 85 is gonna be hard. Might as well invest in a c02 system or DIY one before flowering so it helps with them being able to handle the heat.
Either way ill figure it out. their thriving as it is except the one in hydro, and even that one is lookin better now that ive switched it out. Ill take pics in a couple hours man, im just wakin up, but i checked on everything ,and with lights OFF temps drop to about 73 degrees, which i guess is a good thing, they have 4 hours a day where they can cool off n take a break, lol. N i checked on my two week old in the dro setup too, and shes really lookin great. absolutely no complaints here man. OOOOO yeah, lol, i forgot to tell you guys, hehe. Excuse the babbling, but
Last night when i decided to setup one plant in hydro, i fuckin made everything, sterilized it all, hooked it all up, and then i transplanted my plant. Once everything was transplanted, and the roots were in bubbles, i fuckin look in the tent, and the fuckin seedling that i wanted to transplant was still sittin there in soil, starin up at me. I look over and i accidentally transplanted the bluecheese that was doin the best. Felt fuckin STUPID man,lol. So i put THAT plant back into soil (so i transplanted the one plant from soil to dro, and then back to soil), and i took the correct plant, took it out of the soil, manually spread the roots apart, and sprayed them until i got off all of the dirt that i possibly could, n threw that bitch into my dro bucket. N shes lookin nice man.
anyways, ill hook up some pics here in a little bit.
-K1
, lol.So now i just need to deal with my temps man. I dont have any windows or vents that i can exhaust to without raising some typa suspicion, so basically i have my exhaust ducting just hooked up to where im not blowin hot air back into the closet my tent is in, its blowing the air out into the larger room, n i have the windows open to provide cold air into the room, which works cuz the rooms temps itself is like 60-65 degrees. But INSIDE the tent man, it gets fuckin HOT still. it runs right around 85-sometimes 90 degrees, with LOW humidity. I dont have my oscilating tower fan in there yet, so i know that will cool shit off a little ass bit, plus its got a built in ionizer too, so i wont have to worry about smell when the time comes. But i think that my babies are gonna have to adapt to thrive in a dry hot climate, lol, cuz i dont have a whole lotta room in there, and keepin the overall temp down below 85 is gonna be hard. Might as well invest in a c02 system or DIY one before flowering so it helps with them being able to handle the heat.
Either way ill figure it out. their thriving as it is except the one in hydro, and even that one is lookin better now that ive switched it out. Ill take pics in a couple hours man, im just wakin up, but i checked on everything ,and with lights OFF temps drop to about 73 degrees, which i guess is a good thing, they have 4 hours a day where they can cool off n take a break, lol. N i checked on my two week old in the dro setup too, and shes really lookin great. absolutely no complaints here man. OOOOO yeah, lol, i forgot to tell you guys, hehe. Excuse the babbling, but
Last night when i decided to setup one plant in hydro, i fuckin made everything, sterilized it all, hooked it all up, and then i transplanted my plant. Once everything was transplanted, and the roots were in bubbles, i fuckin look in the tent, and the fuckin seedling that i wanted to transplant was still sittin there in soil, starin up at me. I look over and i accidentally transplanted the bluecheese that was doin the best. Felt fuckin STUPID man,lol. So i put THAT plant back into soil (so i transplanted the one plant from soil to dro, and then back to soil), and i took the correct plant, took it out of the soil, manually spread the roots apart, and sprayed them until i got off all of the dirt that i possibly could, n threw that bitch into my dro bucket. N shes lookin nice man.
anyways, ill hook up some pics here in a little bit.
-K1
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
ok, so im gonna post all my pics here, and then for journal purposes im gonna post just the new plants pics up on my other journal, so no need to visit both really if your checkin shit out here.
So i got my shit setup last night, transplanting one of my babies into a homemade hydro setup. I have a 2 valve airpump workin the one tub right now, with a 12" airstone in there, which is givin off a nice amount of bubbles - i was thinkin about puttin in the other 6" stone that i have too, but i dont know if there is such a thing as too much oxygen in my water, so i went with just the 12". I actually got off about 99% of the dirt off of my root system before i put it into the water, n the bubbles washed off the rest. It was actually pretty easy man. She doesnt look any better yet (obviously i know its gonna take a couple days for me to start seeing a difference in her health), but shes not lookin any worse either, so my mind is put to ease now, n im a little more confident with the whole switching to hydro deal.
So without further ado, heres some pics of the new box, along with a few other pics too - n i have my HPS in the tent right now, because im basically doin the HPS for half the day, and then for the evening i finish up with the MH for about 6 hours before lights out, so they can get both spectrums, and maybe stretch out a little bit. So if anything looks off colored, its the lighting in the tent - just ask if u need a pic without the orange light burnin n ill hook it up a little later on. Enjoy!
heres my box - ill explain the foam on top in a second
I didnt have any neoprene handy, and since this is an experiment, i took an old flip flop, washed it off, cut the heel in half, n sliced it in half widthwise, and then slit the middle and cut a tiny hole in the center
it ended up being too big of a hole in the middle of the plug, but thats ok because i want there to be room for growth in the stem. I do know that i cut too big of a hole in the lid of the box for me to put a regular neoprene collar in there, but im sure i can improvise and figure out a way to make it fit when i buy them. The foam strip on top is slit in the middle and placed under the plant, so that the plant isnt drooping to one side or so it doesnt slip any farther into my rez. Just a placeholder and nothin more.
Heres my pump
A look at the root system
A closer look
So that does it for the hydro setup - if you guys see anything that i should change up, please lemme know.
Now, for my other plants that ill be transplanting next week :
2wks old blue cheese #2
2 wks blue cheese #3
2 wks twilight#1
N now for the runts. I dont understand why their not taking off like the others did - theyre only like 4 days behind the other 4, so i dont know if something is deficient or what. I have a soil ph and npk testing kits, n it said originally that my N n K are good, but my P was pretty much non exsistent. So instead of adding my grow nutes cuz theyre just too small for that right now, i added in some bat guano (Rootz organics HP formula Bat guano Ph) very lightly to the soil when i watered them this morning. Hopefully thats why their growing so slowly, and will correct the problem n get shit movin right along. take a look :
Twilight #2(in soil 4 days after twilight #2 because the other seeds i germed at the same time as TL#1 died)
N heres Whitberry
N Northern Soul
So hopefully the Ph i put into my three runts will kick them bitches in the head n make them realize their plants not fuckin statues.
Now, on to Corky.
Corky is doin great now. Now that ive gotten control of its Mag Def ,its resumed its regular growing schedule. Its flowers are forming nicely, and coming together, n beefin up real nice. It just sucks though that the damage from the Mag Def aint gonna go away, because it just makes the damn thing look sick, even though its not. Fuckin stupid deficiencies.
- comin along nicely
So there you have it. Everything is coming along, although not completely smooth, its still manageable,and things are starting to pick up and take off. Cant wait for them to grow a few inches so i can top the shit out of them n get them all nice n primped n pampered for flowering man. Fuckin A.
Im gonna post somethin similar if not the same post in my other journal, so like i said, no need to visit that one too for this update, unless you wanna +rep me cuz im me n whatnot
Take it easy guys, n like i always say, any and all feedback is always appreciated
-K1
So i got my shit setup last night, transplanting one of my babies into a homemade hydro setup. I have a 2 valve airpump workin the one tub right now, with a 12" airstone in there, which is givin off a nice amount of bubbles - i was thinkin about puttin in the other 6" stone that i have too, but i dont know if there is such a thing as too much oxygen in my water, so i went with just the 12". I actually got off about 99% of the dirt off of my root system before i put it into the water, n the bubbles washed off the rest. It was actually pretty easy man. She doesnt look any better yet (obviously i know its gonna take a couple days for me to start seeing a difference in her health), but shes not lookin any worse either, so my mind is put to ease now, n im a little more confident with the whole switching to hydro deal.
So without further ado, heres some pics of the new box, along with a few other pics too - n i have my HPS in the tent right now, because im basically doin the HPS for half the day, and then for the evening i finish up with the MH for about 6 hours before lights out, so they can get both spectrums, and maybe stretch out a little bit. So if anything looks off colored, its the lighting in the tent - just ask if u need a pic without the orange light burnin n ill hook it up a little later on. Enjoy!
heres my box - ill explain the foam on top in a second
I didnt have any neoprene handy, and since this is an experiment, i took an old flip flop, washed it off, cut the heel in half, n sliced it in half widthwise, and then slit the middle and cut a tiny hole in the center
it ended up being too big of a hole in the middle of the plug, but thats ok because i want there to be room for growth in the stem. I do know that i cut too big of a hole in the lid of the box for me to put a regular neoprene collar in there, but im sure i can improvise and figure out a way to make it fit when i buy them. The foam strip on top is slit in the middle and placed under the plant, so that the plant isnt drooping to one side or so it doesnt slip any farther into my rez. Just a placeholder and nothin more.
Heres my pump
A look at the root system
A closer look
So that does it for the hydro setup - if you guys see anything that i should change up, please lemme know.
Now, for my other plants that ill be transplanting next week :
2wks old blue cheese #2
2 wks blue cheese #3
2 wks twilight#1
N now for the runts. I dont understand why their not taking off like the others did - theyre only like 4 days behind the other 4, so i dont know if something is deficient or what. I have a soil ph and npk testing kits, n it said originally that my N n K are good, but my P was pretty much non exsistent. So instead of adding my grow nutes cuz theyre just too small for that right now, i added in some bat guano (Rootz organics HP formula Bat guano Ph) very lightly to the soil when i watered them this morning. Hopefully thats why their growing so slowly, and will correct the problem n get shit movin right along. take a look :
Twilight #2(in soil 4 days after twilight #2 because the other seeds i germed at the same time as TL#1 died)
N heres Whitberry
N Northern Soul
So hopefully the Ph i put into my three runts will kick them bitches in the head n make them realize their plants not fuckin statues.
Now, on to Corky.
Corky is doin great now. Now that ive gotten control of its Mag Def ,its resumed its regular growing schedule. Its flowers are forming nicely, and coming together, n beefin up real nice. It just sucks though that the damage from the Mag Def aint gonna go away, because it just makes the damn thing look sick, even though its not. Fuckin stupid deficiencies.
- comin along nicely
So there you have it. Everything is coming along, although not completely smooth, its still manageable,and things are starting to pick up and take off. Cant wait for them to grow a few inches so i can top the shit out of them n get them all nice n primped n pampered for flowering man. Fuckin A.
Im gonna post somethin similar if not the same post in my other journal, so like i said, no need to visit that one too for this update, unless you wanna +rep me cuz im me n whatnot
Take it easy guys, n like i always say, any and all feedback is always appreciated
-K1
AsbestosToast
Well-Known Member
Shit king, you've come a hell of a long way from a ghetto cardboard closet grow. (no offense haha). I hope that hydro works out for you, looks pretty good. I might humbly add that you make sure your res is 100% light proof, I remember reading somewhere that even a little bit of light can sour it up, and isn't good for the roots.
Budda_Luva
Well-Known Member
damn king u werenpt playin when u said u fuk things up pretty easy huh hahaha n damn man nice shit u got goin now i agree with abestos u moved pretty quick right up the ladder of bud growin im thinkin bout doin the same imma probably get a HPS but still use soil but the way u put dro makes me feel like going dro yo i unno guess i got sum thinkin to do n daaaaamn man now u got 2 journals.... wat thaaa fuuuk man thats not cool keep it to this one so i dont have to go back n forth ahahah but naw.... shits lookin good man u fukkin greenthumb ganja farmer keep this shit up
GypsyBush
Well-Known Member
Budda_Luva said:
The way he puts it? It's all 100% Zen style...lol....
Wish you could have seen the pms...hahahaha... sorry K1ng, had to give you shit...lol....Budda_Luva said:
Fucking A man... Shit does look good ...
What did you use for the foam? you said rubber?????
Good luck man.... looks perfect from here....
Cheers...
PASS...
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
nice fuckin chillum u got thereGypsy, hope it smokes as good as it looks - im savin up for a hurricane bong man - them things just look fuckin titties in my book. Either that or a nice SNOB piece with a shitload of diffusers. Either way its gonna run me like 3-350 bucks, lol.
N thanks everyone. The only place that light could get into the box is through the bottom, but the bottom has floor covering it, so i think im good, leasti should be anyways.
N YEAH YEAH, I was hittin Gypsy up for advice true n00bstyle, n the styleof dro bucket thats bein used is taken from a page in WolfMan Zens growbook, but im doin it just a little bit different. Im not doin a micro grow, and instead of usin each bucket for 2-3 plants, im just usin 1 plant per bucket. 3 gallons should be plenty for each plant to reach their full potential. I know that people say that 5 gallons is perfect for hydro, but im lookin in there, and im lookin at alot of peoples root systems in their journals, and im thinkin that my shit is gona be able to pull it off here. theres plenty of room for my bitches to stretch their legs in there. i MIGHT get the rest of my boxes like 1 inch taller than this one (cuz i cant find any more of these ones - ive had it for years), but no more than 1 - or 2 inches cuz i want them all to grow the same size if container size is gonna come into play here.Ive bought 7 12" stones and 4 6" stones, along with two more of those double valve pumps, along with one more single valve pump, so ill have everything covered as far as that goes, so all i need to do now is wait for my WB, NS, n TL plants to get their shit together and fuckin develop a nice built up root system so i can transplant them without worrying about them fuckin bitches dying on me.
N yeah, im callin my plants bitches right now. Theyre harsh picky little snotnosed shits that wont make up their fuckinmind about what they wanna do. hence the name, lol.
-K1.
*edit* n gypsy, once again man, the nug is beautiful dude. wish i COULD share it with you, but your all the way out there in Northern Exposure mode, doin it up true guy-from-the-bounty paper towels- wrapper, roughneck style, LMAO. but i think if i put my nose in the air....wait.....nnnnn yep, i think i can smell your buds from all the way over here man. They make me wanna cry their so nice
N thanks everyone. The only place that light could get into the box is through the bottom, but the bottom has floor covering it, so i think im good, leasti should be anyways.
N YEAH YEAH, I was hittin Gypsy up for advice true n00bstyle, n the styleof dro bucket thats bein used is taken from a page in WolfMan Zens growbook, but im doin it just a little bit different. Im not doin a micro grow, and instead of usin each bucket for 2-3 plants, im just usin 1 plant per bucket. 3 gallons should be plenty for each plant to reach their full potential. I know that people say that 5 gallons is perfect for hydro, but im lookin in there, and im lookin at alot of peoples root systems in their journals, and im thinkin that my shit is gona be able to pull it off here. theres plenty of room for my bitches to stretch their legs in there. i MIGHT get the rest of my boxes like 1 inch taller than this one (cuz i cant find any more of these ones - ive had it for years), but no more than 1 - or 2 inches cuz i want them all to grow the same size if container size is gonna come into play here.Ive bought 7 12" stones and 4 6" stones, along with two more of those double valve pumps, along with one more single valve pump, so ill have everything covered as far as that goes, so all i need to do now is wait for my WB, NS, n TL plants to get their shit together and fuckin develop a nice built up root system so i can transplant them without worrying about them fuckin bitches dying on me.
N yeah, im callin my plants bitches right now. Theyre harsh picky little snotnosed shits that wont make up their fuckinmind about what they wanna do. hence the name, lol.
-K1.
*edit* n gypsy, once again man, the nug is beautiful dude. wish i COULD share it with you, but your all the way out there in Northern Exposure mode, doin it up true guy-from-the-bounty paper towels- wrapper, roughneck style, LMAO. but i think if i put my nose in the air....wait.....nnnnn yep, i think i can smell your buds from all the way over here man. They make me wanna cry their so nice
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
O yeah, and i think it might be neoprene (my flipflop), im not completely sure. I know it wasnt as light as one of those neoprene collars are, but its doin the job. I was gonna use straight up styrofoam man - but at the last minute i found my old flip flops man. n to be honest, i might even use those to make the rest of my collars, only with smaller holes in the bucket. Im tryin not to make so many frequent trips to the dro shop anymore. The less trips i take over there, the less suspicious ill be that someone is writing down my plate n turnin my ass in, lol. I went to walmart for the pumps n stones, n goin back for the totes.
sweet jake
Active Member
hi i have one plant that is about 3 inches tall, i have 1 150 watt cfl, 2 50 watt cfl and 1 120 watt cfl, is that too much light, and if so how much should i use?
AsbestosToast
Well-Known Member
Take a peek at Newbie Central man, pretty much any question you will have is answered there. Research, research, research!
Budda_Luva
Well-Known Member
well when i hit a chillium i juss pack n hit... dont matter wich way u hold it
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
yeah pretty much the same as any other pipe man, as long as your not smokin some dirty ass dry crumby shwiggity, the bowll will stay packed no matter how ya hit it. You dont gotta take the crackpipe stance to take a rip LOL. They got a shitload of nice inside out chillums online if your lookin into buyin a nice little piece to keep handy - its a hell of alot better then them metal one hitters that we used to use back in the day that looked like ciggarrettes - and the bowlpiece is usually full size too. I got me a couple sidecar bubblers and a sherlock as far as glass goes, but im savin up for the binger. Used to have a fatty Graffix piece, but they fell off the earth a while ago - i cant find a graffix bong online to save my life man. So im either gettin a Hurricane, a Tsunami(which is fuckin EXPENSIVE AS SHIT but its worth the money - probably the best glass bong your gonna find on the market), or a nice ROOR or SNOB piece with diffusers in it. Ill probably end up gettin it for xmas from the wifey, but im savin up just in case she decides to get me a fuckin dvd rack or some other dumb shit, lol.
420weedman
Well-Known Member
where you buy your pipes from ?
K1Ng5p4d3
Junior Creatologist
from either my local headshop or a friend of my pops blows glass every now n then. Hes pretty good at it too - i mean, not like PROFFESSSISSISISISIONAL or anything like that, but hes gettin pretty good with color changers. just spoons n shit like that, nothin advanced like a bubbler.
For more intricate pieces i go to a headshop thats like a mile down the road from me. But im orderin my bong from the net. Either ME or the Wifey is gonna order that shit in december, a few weeks before i harvest my diggity.
For more intricate pieces i go to a headshop thats like a mile down the road from me. But im orderin my bong from the net. Either ME or the Wifey is gonna order that shit in december, a few weeks before i harvest my diggity.