K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

Now, even if i were just growin out the indicas you would say 2-3 weeks more vegging?? thatd be 6-7 weeks total veg, now is that typical? cuz i got everyone tellin me that 4 weeks is pretty much standard veg time. Obviously i want my grow as big as i can get it, so the longer the veg the better, but if i were to have thrown them into flower now, theyd only turn out to be what, like 2 feet tall huh. lol i guess its a good thing that i picked up them widows then cuz i woulda probably already have been flowering by now

- But then, does that mean that the WW are gonna be little runted fuckers because im only lettin THEM veg for 2-3 weeks?? the strain review said thats all indoor growers should be doin when it comes to them, because they stretch like a motherfucker under that hps...

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Ya thats why I wanted pics. The thing to look at is the new nodes that appear on main stalks right above the Fan Leafs. You dont want those to get more than a couple inches if that before you go into flower or they will try to start new stalks instead of adding to the cola. If they are at that point now I would just throw the WW up in the cab for a few weeks.

yo k1ng, how those buds from corky .. you curing? .. smoking at all ?
i dont think i saw a smoke report ...
lemme know

[/quote]-man, i dont know what it is, but since ive started doin this shit, ive spent more money on stuff or my grow n just shit to do with weed in general, than i have in the last 13 years of smokin, lol. Its like heroin for potheads man lol.[/quote]


Dude King you crack me up bro. You do spend a shit ton of money on stuff man. You prolly could have moved twice for the amount you have dropped in the last 3 months, lol.

420weedman said:

yo k1ng, how those buds from corky .. you curing? .. smoking at all ?
i dont think i saw a smoke report ...
lemme know

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yeah ibeen puffin on corky for a little bit now, n i dont know what it is, but shes still smellin like dead bark or somethin man, its fuckin pissin me off. I must suck at curing or somethin lol. I need to either get some different jars or somethin man. But then again, both of the plants i managed to flower in my 1st grow, neither of them smelled like bud at all, unless you seriously rubbed on the top of the colas, it was wierd. When i chopped Dlylah, she didnt smell like bud at all, n when i let her cure out she still smelled like fuckin dead god damn grass. N now with Corky, the smell is more like ganja, but its not - know what i mean?? its got that smell that really bad commercial has sometimes, just smells like poop, lol. Maybe i need to give it a little bit longer for the cure, but the consistency of the buds are perfect, not wet, not completely dry, smokes perfect. But that god damn smell man, just makes me angry,lol.

N as far as the smoke itself goes, she got a really nice head on her man. A decent cerebral high, followed by a heavy body stone(well, heavy as far as mersh or mids go,lol). I guess its pretty good as far as middies go, but i musta mixed my seeds up back when i was savin them for no reason, cuz i thought it was a completely different typa chronic than what it actually turned out to be. Id have to say that the seeds would have had to have been some good mersh, n ended up bein some decent middies after i got done with the grow. All in all, id say 5 pipes outta 10.

[quote Thundercat]-man, i dont know what it is, but since ive started doin this shit, ive spent more money on stuff or my grow n just shit to do with weed in general, than i have in the last 13 years of smokin, lol. Its like heroin for potheads man lol.[/quote]


Dude King you crack me up bro. You do spend a shit ton of money on stuff man. You prolly could have moved twice for the amount you have dropped in the last 3 months, lol.[/quote]


yeah dude, this is true, lol. But its cool, im good at stackin my cash i guess man. But basically the reason we havent moved yet, is cuz were waitin until we have enough to just be able to throw a few grand at the landlord n be like "heres 6 months rent bitch, thanks n were movin in next week", lol. N plus i think were gonna move into a good neighborhood in the suburbs or somethin, not only because i want my son to grow up in a good neighborhood, but also because nobody suspects you of doin bad shit if bad shit dont ever happen around where you live, u know what i mean?? if you live in the same hood as a bunch of old ass people, or "wealthier" people, they aint concerned with what the fuck your doin in your own house. As long as your not tryin to turn their neighborhood into the ghetto, they dont give a fuck

So hopefully thats whatll happen. well see whats on the market in a couple months here...

I just walked over to my tent 420, to take a look at what you were talkin about as far as the branches in the inner nodes being longer than just a couple inches, and im lookin right now, n some are like 2-3 inches long, n some are only like an inch long, so i said fuckit, threw the widows into the top cab, and are under 24 hours of light for the next 2 weeks. The tent is now blazin bright ass orange, and ive set the timers for off at 8pm n on at 8am. Its flowerin time, lets make magic baby

Ill still throw down some pics a little later on when i got some time to snap some off, i just gotta wait for biddie to get home n take the lil monster off my hands so i can get into the tent n get involved. i dont like to start takin shit out with him around cuz hes just a lil guy, n who knows what hell try to rip or tear off when i aint lookin, lol. Im gonna teach him to grow one day, but it aint today thats for damn sure

SO, i guess stay tuned for the magic part guys!!! its a little earlier than what i expected to do it, but fuck it, lol. My widows will work out just fine im sure, maybe ill let them go an extra week or somethin, since now im in no hurry to flower them cuz theyre in a totally seperate box now. Watering tonight, but i guess i should do that shit way earlier now cuz of the flower mode n everything. I wanna water, n then give the soil a chance to warm up again, before the cool night air hits the tent with no way to warm it back up. I was originally considering flowering with a dark photoperiod during the DAY while it was semi warm outside, but i said fuck that shit cuz then i would never be able to fuck with my girls. PLUS, it would look kinda wierd lookin into that rooms window from outside the apartment complex at night man - a bright ass orange glow comin from the one room, n all the other rooms have normal lights, lol. It would look like im doin some typa diabolical radiation experiments or somethin, lol.

Hey King, do you think maybe you messed up on the drying/curing process? Do you think that's why it smells like that? I've never heard dead bark, I've heard hay. Here's one of many links to Drying and Curing which I think is broken down pretty well - https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/120624-want-bag-appeal-curing-matters.html Not that I'm doubting you or anything, I just thought maybe it could help.

believe me, i DEFINITELY think its me dude, lol. I mean, i dont know what it could be though, i leave the buds hangin on a wire, not touchin each other, in a relatively cool, dry dark place for 1-2 days, until the stem snaps, but doesnt break all the way off. From there i put them in a paper bag for a day, to sweat them just a little bit. From there, on to the mason jars, where i burp them every 4 hours for 4-5 days, n then on i just do it twice a day at my discrescion. I really dont see what i could be doin wrong, although i do concede that something GOTTA be wrong there. Maybe its the bud though. I mean, after the first couple days have passed, the dead grass smell sets in. after about a week, it smells like dead hay/bark/whatever you wanna call it. Its been almost 2 weeks now since the Corky chop, n it doesnt smell like nugs at all. so maybe it was just a horrible shit strain of bud, lol. Either way its the smoke i wanned to get out of it, which aint too bad at all, including the taste to be honest. so whatever is wrong here, believe im gonna be doin all the research in th world ,n buying the best glass i can get within the next 8 weeks before harvest man. I aint fuckin up another batch, ESPECIALLY When its gonna be the dank, n ESPECIALLY when ive invested this much time, effort, n fuckin LOVE into this grow man. These buds are gonna turn out perfect, if i gotta ffuckin break my own back in the process of doin it man. theyre gonna be perfectly harvested, perfectly manicured, n perfectly dried, so they can be perfectly smoked, n perfectly enjoyed

thanks for that link too brother, i appreciate that. Ill give it a mull over today after i take myself a nice relaxing shit LOL

-K1

im tryin out that water cure on a couple buds in a pill jar. supposably it only takes 7 days wet 2 to dry. ill let ya know mang...

You might be right King. It might be the strain or something. I wouldn't beat yourself up too much until your next batch is ready, then if you get the same results I'd worry. For now just relax and enjoy.

King, From what you said you are curing just fine. I really think it was just the plants, what ever strains they were in the first place. Mersh, or middies never has alot of smell IMO. I know I've gotten bags of mersh that just smell kinda like cardboard. Have faith man, these plants you have now are gonna be MUCH better!!

Thats sweet you started flowering today man, and on the plus side if you wait another week or 2 on the widow, then it will space out your grow cycles a bit, and you will be able to harvest them a couple weeks after you harvest the rest. You can even start your next seedlings (for your mothers right, thats the plan?) in your box while the widow finishes in the tent. Then take your mothers with you on the move.

TC dude, you read my mind, lol. Itll gimme a harvest 3 weeks after i harvest this batch, which is fuckin awesome in my book lol. n yeah, once i throw the Widows into the tent, i do plant on starting a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong veg with all of my other plants that im turnin into mothers. im just gonna keep toppin n toppin n toppin until it wont let me do it anymore, that way ill have a shitload of clones available to me by the time im ready to make them in my new pad. Ill prolly start out with a Widow mom, a BlueCheese mom, a Red Diesel mommy, n i might do either a Northern soul or a WhiteBerry mom, depending on which one i like better from this harvest

I love plant biology man, its fuckin awesome. Shoulda taken Botany in college instead of computer networking n programming lol. Another thing i may do, since i dont have any regular seeds except for 1 strain, and my freebies, is take that Power skunk, and grow out a male, n then pollenate one of my favorite strains. Even though theyre freebies, its still fuckin Skunk no.1 as a base strain man, n who can fuckin argue that it wouldnt be worth while?? not a god damn body, thats who, lol. I cant wait to start playin around with shit like that man. gonna be fun fuckin around with nature. Cheesey Diesel anyone??

cheesey diesel lol do it!! do it now!! i havent even thought about breeding and shit at all. not even cloning either haha. i def need to once i get down to the last of this skywalker tho. no way ima let that one go and yeah no one like harvesting a shit lot of plants all at once, that shit gets tiring as fuck lol. took me 4hrs just to do my ONE plant last time. so i started all mine a week or so apart this time, that way i should be harvesting about every weekend in december... merry x-mas to me!!

K1Ng5p4d3 said:

yeah ibeen puffin on corky for a little bit now, n i dont know what it is, but shes still smellin like dead bark or somethin man, its fuckin pissin me off. I must suck at curing or somethin lol. I need to either get some different jars or somethin man. But then again, both of the plants i managed to flower in my 1st grow, neither of them smelled like bud at all, unless you seriously rubbed on the top of the colas, it was wierd. When i chopped Dlylah, she didnt smell like bud at all, n when i let her cure out she still smelled like fuckin dead god damn grass. N now with Corky, the smell is more like ganja, but its not - know what i mean?? its got that smell that really bad commercial has sometimes, just smells like poop, lol. Maybe i need to give it a little bit longer for the cure, but the consistency of the buds are perfect, not wet, not completely dry, smokes perfect. But that god damn smell man, just makes me angry,lol.

N as far as the smoke itself goes, she got a really nice head on her man. A decent cerebral high, followed by a heavy body stone(well, heavy as far as mersh or mids go,lol). I guess its pretty good as far as middies go, but i musta mixed my seeds up back when i was savin them for no reason, cuz i thought it was a completely different typa chronic than what it actually turned out to be. Id have to say that the seeds would have had to have been some good mersh, n ended up bein some decent middies after i got done with the grow. All in all, id say 5 pipes outta 10.

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sounds good man, as far as the smell goes i got some shit like that right now... but with all the nugs in a jar together it smells more like weed
its some pretty good shit .
heres my first attempt at bubblecone'n for ya

love this grow man been following it for a while and jtoth check out this thread before you water cure https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/84937-great-riu-conquistador-grow-08-a-69.html just ctl-f water-cured

bubbleconing?? or bubble cloning?? either way ive never heard of it bro - whats it supposed to do? im interested now, lol - bout to look that shit up
*edit* im a fuckin moron. Cloning in a bubbler. Yep. that about confirms how fuckin stupid a stoned grower can get man. Im gonna leave my previous statement up there, just so you guys can witness the stupidity */edit*

N yeah, The plan with the moms is gonna go off pretty well the way that things turned out i suppose. I just wanted shit to all fit into the tent, and be able to all get the proper amount of light each without taking away from any one plant, n while im still afraid thats whats gonna end up happenin with the WWs, im a little less worried about it now, because i can veg them for an extra week, n hopefully theyll end up growin out to be just a little bit taller than all the other plants, so i can put them up in the corner, n not disturb all the indies at the same time. Cant fuckin wait man. Even though the innernodes were starting to grow out to become their own branches, the plants were still relatively short - the shortest was about 8 inches, the talles was 11 inches, but then i remembered that these plants were all topped twice, and had they not been they would probably be around 13-18 inches tall each. So yeah, it was a good time to pull the trigger on these bitches. Even with the plants where the topped bits havent grown out to where they should be, theyll spring up n beef the fuck up during the 1st week or two of flowering, so not worried there either really. Every single one of my plants are bigger now than both Corky and Dlylah were at the end of their grows. Im fuckin stoked to see what theyre gonna be able to do uninhibited, untied, and fuckin beastin with nuggets fuckin a man, here comes the fun part AND the part thats a pain in the ass - cuz while its awesome watchin the plants bloom out n look all fuckin sick, its a bitch cuz when it gets down to the last 4 weeks of waitin, its gonna be hard as fuck to not wanna just lick one of the buds, or pluck one off n give it a quick dry n puff

I can do it though, i been waitin to do this grow for a while, its just alot of hard work n planning coming to fruition man. *pats myself on the back* LOL

I think you started the bloom at a pretty good time man. They are still gonna grow alot more, and I bet you'll be pretty happy with the size in about 2-3 weeks once they make that big jump.

yeah, but i think i made a mistake topping that second time this bein my first dank grow. I can more than likely say that they aint gonna get to no 4 ft, lol. But still, ill be gettin some nice phatty nuggets, n im sure itll be a respectable weight for the grow involved, so no worries. I could still potentially yield 8zs with 8 plants man, my last grow was shit weed compared to this, lstd out the asshole n i still got 3 quarters dry man.

lol yea bubble cloner, hopefully this will work ok ... ill give it a week before i decide if i have to make any changes ... second day now and they look perky.
let me tell ya .. i planted my blueberry ... then white widow then himalayan gold
HG got started maybe 4 days after BB & WW.
right now my BB & HG are twice as tall as the WW......3 weeks veg now..... i dont think your gonna have trouble with the height

lol right on man. Im pretty confident about the grow now, especially after seeing the results after last night.

First though, lemme just say that your bubblecloner is awesome, and i wouldnt worry about having troubles cloning with it, as bubble cloning IMO is the best way to clone period. all that other stuff is just bells n whistles, cloning in a dwc bubbler is the simplest way and most effective way to clone man. I bet youll have at least 90% success with your shit. What rooting agent are u using??

Now, as for my grow, i just gotta chuckle at myself for worrying about shit man. Theyve already started the stretch man, and are climbin n climbin. Theyre already up to about an average of 13" in height, up from an 11" average yesterday. Happy with the results. BUT, lol, there is a good side and a bad side to what im doin here. See, last night i was worried also about the temps in the tent with the light off, and the circulation system running. I turned off one of my intake fans, n had one 80cfm intake running, with my 480cfm carbon filter/scrubber setup. I was scared that the temps would drop too too low and fuck up my shit, So what i ended up doin after a couple hours was fucking with the timer that i had the fan hooked up to, so that the fan ran for 15 minutes every hour just to scrub out all the skunky air inside the tent. I woke up this mornin n it fuckin REEEEEEKED in that room man. I can now tell the difference between a musky, deep blueberry smell, and a straight up skunk smell, lol. I guess you get somethin good out of somethin bad more often than not eh?? lol.

Either way, im puttin back out my ona jars, and runnin the filter 24/7, n that should take care of that-- you would think that the plants would smell MORE when the light is ON, know what i mean?? I mean jesus christ, i couldnt even smell the god damn fart i busted this mornin right before i went into the room, n those things usually fuckin follow me around FOREVER lol.

Everything is good in da hood guys. Im now settling in for the long haul with this bitch

word man, my plants are stinkn too, not too bad .. but bad enough were i can smell it in a certain point upstairs that is directly above my room.
not a strong smell .. but i can tell what it is ... so i gotta play with my filter ... switch it so air is drawn through it instead of pushed out. and then im prolly gonna do one of those cheap air fresheners.
i got one of those automatic ones that they use in restrooms.... but im having some trouble finding the spray for it. .. i gotta get that hooked up and put it in my room, i think it sprays every hour... ever here of "ozium" ? that stuff was awesome for getting rid of the smell after i smoked in my room

i was eyein up my BB & HG last nite ... they are tempting me to clone them... maybe within a week or so... and the WW and DP im thinkin i should really wait 2 weeks.

those 4 big plants i got in veg now ... 3 are female .. so i took 4 clones each from 2 of em. i only planted (good bag seed) 4 and 3 are shown females ! makes up for my 3/13 ratio... i cant wait to through these in my flower room .... and wait for the time of a harvest every 3 weeks or so