K1Ng5p4d3's Cardboard Box Grow (hehe)

Here you go bro, this is a place in Niagara falls Canada. I went there and got my seeds for my last grow, my K.C. 36. The prices are not cheap, but he has DJ shorts. The guy was pretty cool too! http://www.ironseedsales.com/catalog.htm

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Here you go bro, this is a place in Niagara falls Canada. I went there and got my seeds for my last grow, my K.C. 36. The prices are not cheap, but he has DJ shorts. The guy was pretty cool too! http://www.ironseedsales.com/catalog.htm

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you sent them a money order or you physically went there ?
i dont like sites like theirs

I physically went there. It looked just like any other head shop, but I had been looking for the seedbank for 2 days up there. So finally I just asked the guy, and he was like dude your in the right spot. He pulled out a binder with tons of pages of different strains. He told me he was back ordered on the AK47, and I also found out what he charges for it, and I decided on the K.C. 36. I was pretty happy! Like I said the guy was real cool!

yo k1ng hows the widow doin ??

Still small man. Only a week old ,so They only got 2 sets of true leaves forming. No branches yet, but looking REALLY healthy so far. Everything is lookin good.

Babies are finally sexing. 3 of the 6 big girls have showed off their pistils, and The flower clock has officially started. 7-11 weeks from today, ill have a nice ass harvest. Ill bust an update a little later on tonight with some pics i took yesterday of a couple of the plants. Its a bitch taking them out one at a time n snapping shots now cuz theyre so fuckin heavy n bulky, lol, so i took out the biggest plants n snapped shots of them, n then did a tentshot. The plants all average a height of 18" now from topsoil to top leaf, so im guessing the transplant worked. -- Oh yeah, lol, i transplanted the day before yesterday. I took them out of the 3gallon growbags and put them into......3gallon growbags, lol.

I picked up some new bags. Basically the old bags were only filled up a little more than halfway to save on space, so i took the new bags, filled them up halfway, and then slid the old bags into the new ones, and sliced the old ones off. It was a pretty smooth transplant, and didnt result in any shock whatsoever. But as soon as i transplanted them, they began growing again in height. I dont want them to get too much taller this time around though, theyre big enough to where i should get 1-2 oz off of each girl. I can live with that, lol. IF i hadnt topped them theyd be like 3-4 feet tall right now for sure.

I got some excellofizz on the way in the mail, and im gonna be using the pucks over the next 3-4 weeks, like twice a week whenever the tent gets over 82 degrees, so hopefully thatll help with bud production like crazy. Ill be saving some puck action for when the Widows get nice n big too.

I also ordered a bottle of Gravity, to use 3 weeks before harvest. From what ive read Gravity packs on mad density and girth to the nugs before harvest -- if anyone has had experience using this stuff, let me know please, i wanna know how itll work in conjunction with using Molasses, Purple Maxx, Tiger Bloom, Big Bloom, and possibly BMO's Super Plant Tonic. I might take out the tonic from the mix, but im using molasses until final flush for sure. They really do seem to be reacting to the molasses really well, and even when i do my straight watering without the bloom nutes, i still use molasses. They couldnt be happier man.

It feels good to finally be doing this shit right, and actually know what im doing, rather than just shootin in the dark, hoping that im getting something right. I actually have SOME type of control over my babies and what they end up yielding, so im doing everything in my power to ensure that i get the maximum potential out of these bitches. For a second grow, id say that this is a pretty fuckin successful attempt man, and only confirms that growin dope is somethin that i shoulda started doin years ago, lol.

Like i said, ill hook up the pics here later on tonight for sure, so stay tuned.

Sounds good King, I'm glad the transplant went so smooth. Asside from the little mishap you told me about lol. Who knew plants liked to fly? Any ways lookin forward to the pics. How much did the excellofizz cost?

looking good kingspade >_<

yeah whered you find the excellofizz man? ima need some for my next grow and its not on ebay anymore the last i checked haha. you can try breakin them in half and using one every other day through flowering like i am. those pucks are fuckin big and recommended for like 12x12 area haha so thats why i only use half. that way i can use one every other day for 60 days.. how many did you get anyway? 15?

i got my pucks from bettergrowhydro -- www.bghydro.com i think the website was. a bucket of 15 pucks i think it was cost 50 bucks. Not too bad, im gonna break them in half and stretch them bitches out, lol. I figure since most of the time my tent is like 82 degrees, the co2 will work wonders for the grow, i hope.

N YEAH, lol - i fuckin forgot to say (TC u bastard, lol), that the first plant i tried to transplant the way that i did, i fuckin dropped, n popped half the root system, n dirt was just fuckin everywhere, lol. So yeah, that happened. BUT, its not in shock at all which fuckin amazes me, and its grown out a little bit even since the transplant AND is now showing pistils .


im bustin out the update right now. once again, sorry about the thumbnails, but its just easier to do it that way rather than uploading my pics onto botophucket. takes like 45 minutes to do a damn update, lol.

Ok, so heres whats up for my new update.

Transplanted plants. Fuckin A man. the shit works, lol. I filled up the growbags all the way (as opposed to half way when i started them out), and the plants are THRIVING. Originally, i planned on using less soil to start out with, and was gonna transplant once a little later into flowering, but as the grow went on, i started to think that the bags were just fine and i wasnt gonna need to do it. Then the plants stopped growin one day, and wouldnt start up again, lol, so i figured that they needed to stretch. Turns out that was the case man, n now the roots have a whole nother half a growbag to stretch their legs in, and shoot up a few more inches. Ill be happy if my girls end up being 2 feet tall from top soil to top leaf.

GIRLS!!!!! -- I GOT FUCKIN FOR SURE GIRLS!!!! -lol, i already knew they were gonna be girls 99%, but now it just feels good knowin it for a fact. 3 or 4 i think of my girls are now showing sex. Lookin sexy with just two sets of pistils per plant, but its just a sign that theyre gonna start blowin up soon, and be some beastin motherfuckers in just a matter of a couple weeks. This gives potential for a bigger yield right?? fast flowering is a sign of vigourous calyx growth, hence more nuggets, right?? Whatever, theyre bitches, n im happy


The ladies are getting nice n tall, and i can now give you guys an accurate plant by plant height, as i got off my lazy ass n made somethin happen, lol.

Blue Cheese #1 -- 18" roughly, right between 18 n 19. - Shes once again taken over the title of biggest plant. Shes got a bigger canopy than all the girls. Shes got fuller branches, HUGE thick stem, bright green, giving off a funky fuckin skunk ass smell that takes over the entire room when ventilation and odor control aint running. a Very impressive little chick if i do say so myself.

Northern Soul -- 17/18" - the top leaf bends a little bit, so its right in between there, lol. Shes fuckin huge man. Her canopy is thick, and lush, and shes just healthy as hell in general. She gets the odd occasioanall Yellow mini leaf at the very bottom of the plant near the main stem n the soil, but thats it. all the other signs of sickliness are from when i had the hydrohut material on the tent.

Twilight #1 -- 16" - was 15" yesterday, so shes still goin. Shes starting to wanna compete with the BB1 n NS for the most of my affection. Although, shes not really filling out like i wouldve liked her to, shes lookin just fine, with all kindsa purple branches all over the fuckin place. This is gonna be a purdy plant man, seriously.

WhiteBerry -- 16" - size aint gonna be everything with this one - i think this plant is gonna end up being my headdie stash, by the way shes lookin right now. Thick, leathery leaves, deep green, HUGE stem, thick branches, just lookin like a beast in general. Ive met some tough short motherfuckers in my lifetime, so i aint countin size as everything with this grow at all.

Twilight #2 -- 15" - shes actually not doin as good as all the rest. She LOOKS good - nice canopy, when you look from the top she looks nice as hell, but thin. When you look at the branch formation, you notice that all the branches are shooting straight up, not tree-ing out n getting wide, or any of that. The branches and everything else are really healthy, dont get me wrong, but the form shes takin on, lol, she looks like an anorexic plant. I decided to tie her down a little bit, just to pull the branches more out towards the lip of the bag, and not straight up -- like theyre so fuckin bunched up the canopy doesnt even go the width of the growbag, lol -- THATS how bunched up n fucked up lookin it is. I didnt take pics this time, but next update ill show you what i mean if it hasnt improved since this change. I tied her up today, and am gonna leave her like that for about a week, untill all the middle growth grows out alot.


Sorry i didnt take pics of every single plant, but when i took the pics yesterday, i was high as shit n i didnt wanna go through taking them all out one by one n snappin shots. Next update ill do like 30 pics for you guys n let you take a look at everything.

The last pic btw, is my babies all put together, to make one giant canopy. That shit is fuckin NOICE man. I almost cried, lol.

thanks for reading everyone, i hope you enjoy the updates. Ill hook up another one in a couple days when you can SEE the pistils everywhere. Shouldnt take long, now that were off n running with our first set. PLUS next update ill have been using the Excellofizz pucks, and Purple maxx for a week or so, so maybe well be able to notice a difference even by then because of the new additives!! i fuckin hope so, lol.

Bravo man, they are looking great! Really made a turn around, and now we know they're bitches!! woohoo!!

fuck yeah man, im stoked too. I woke up this mornin n pulled out Northern soul, n at first i thought that my vision was blurry so i busted out the magnifying glass. SMALL, FUCKIN SUPER SMALL pistils man, but pistils nontheless. Now every mornin when i wake up, the pistil count will double, n double again. I fuckin love this part man. Every morning you wake up to something different. thanks for the props TC - n hit me up later or somethin, i just gotta let you know somethin real quick .


N i FORGOT to tell you guys, lol. Twilight #1 is gonna be purple as fuck man, i can feel it. Im trusting my intuition on this one -- well, that and every single branch towards the top has DEEP purple stems IM FUCKIN STOKED!!! I ACTUALLY GET A PLANT THATS GONNA LOOK LIKE ITS NAME!!!! I mean, im sure that my buds on ALL my plants are gonna give off some amazing hues, but to have a DEEP DEEP purple strain growing in my garden just tickles my nuts in a special way

-- n just so im not countin my chickens before they hatch, the purple stems DOES mean that im gonna have a purple pheno, right?? i mean, its not deficient, its not burnt, and the temps arent being fucked with -- theyre the same conditions as they were when i started them out, if anything theyre more stable now. Fuckin SO SO happy about that shit man!

From the looks of them your prolly fine man. Even if it was a deficiency, it would be phosphate def I think, which I don't think causes major issues unless its real bad. Don't quote me on that, I think thats what I've read is all. Either way your girls look real healthy! Don't start sweatin again lol.

no way bro, not sweatin it a bit. N i thought it might be a def at first too, but ive been feeding it the EXACT same thing im feeding the other twilight, and that plant just looks straight healthy. Theyre getting the sametreatment man, so it can only lead me to believe that its a purple pheno. I mean, the Twilight is Supposed to turn purple, if you get that lucky pheno, n ive done a little research on this strain, n its somethin like 1 plant in every 20 germed has the purple phenotype when you plant straight breeders packs n no clones. So hopefully thats what this is man. For the first time im actually not sweating at all, im hella confident with the regimen i got goin on. now i just wanna perfect what im doin, so i can move on to more involved grows and techniques man.

N also, i dont know if im ever gonna grow hydroponically (ACTUAL hydroponics, as in DwC tubs, rez's n the whole deal). I think im gonna start moving towards the 100% organic growing technique. When you grow organically as opposed to hydro, the flavors all come out, and the buds actually reach their full potential. In alot of cases, you get just as much, if not more of a yield from an organically grown plant, as opposed to dro. Of course you can grow hydro-organically, N yeah i might try that down the road, but i wanna PERFECT the way im growing right now rather than starting a new technique before im ready to move on.

This whole adventure has really opened my eyes up to somethin completely new, and with all the reading ive done and will be doin, i really think i wanna try my hand at breeding and perfecting strains at some point in time down the line. Eventually i wanna be able to create my own strains. Its something to shoot for, ya know?? that way shit never gets stagnant. Always learning, always improving on what im doing. thats how i want shit to be for years and years to come man. This shit is fuckin fun, i dont want it to ever become routine, or boring in any way. By the time ill be able to call myself a "Master grower", i wanna be able to say ive tried growing every single way that you can grow, using every medium or method i can get my hands on. It aint like im in a rush or anything, i got the restof my life to do it, lol.

Things are looking good.

and ya; you defiantly need to learn how to do soil. Its like the staple of my grows cause I keep my mums in it, and I need them to stay healthy.

So since you got the one in 20 are you gonna try and make a clone?

Nah, no clone of Twilight. Shes already in flower, and im not really impressed with the way shes growin, purp or not. Thisll definitely be a one time appearance in my growroom for her. As for all the other strains im growin, nah still no clones this time around, but only cuz i still got seeds of those strains and ill be growing out moms come the end of December. Ill be growin moms of Red Diesel, Blue Cheese, White Widow, and probably do The Black, and maybe a Chemdog D mom, but i dont know about that yet. I might play with these strains for another grow or two, depending on how they turn out. Thats why i wanna wait so long for the moms. I wanna make sure that these are ladies that i wanna grow out in alternating batches in my perpetual grow when i move out. Variety is the spice of life, lol



UPDATE -- Since last night when i posted up the update, things have changed, lol. I went in to check on the babies this mornin, and theyve fuckin grown another couple inches, and theres pistils in every budsite now on 3 of the six plants ive checked so far. Ill be checkin the other ones in a minute, but two of the three didnt have pistils yesterday, and now theyre just like all the rest man. Im one happy fuckin camper - but at the same time im watchin out like a fuckin HAWK for balls ANYWHERE on my plants. Hermies are a nono man, not in this fuckin garden, lol.

You've got some beauties man!

cant wait to see how these turn out in the end. Subscribed and +rep indeed

Lol King that avatar is great, I gotta change mine,its gettin old, you guys can't even read it I'm sure! Thats sweet that they are filling in the pistils more! Also just my opinion, but I don't think I would mind getting a male, or 1 hermie. A male I think more, so I can collect the pollen and do as I please with it. But a hermie wouldn't be all bad,it would give me some fem seeds of that plant,not a bad thing to have around. Just a thought.


Happy Thanksgiving guys!!!!

yeah, it wouldnt be the end of the world cuz i got replacements, lol. But i would definitely collect some pollen to do with as i please for amusements sake, lol. Fuckin, honestly with this grow im not planning on doin anything out of the ordinary, so i just want my shit to nug up n then ill get that shit done, n work on my moms after giving my electricity a short 2 week break or so. This grow is purely for smoke, maybe a smidge of profit, and just to see if i can make it through a grow problem free in general.

the bottom leaves on the plants keep on yellowing up and gettin crispy (the small small leaves at the bottom), so im thinkin its either nitrogen def, phos def, or cal def -- get this -- so what did i do?? today was my feeding day on schedule for my girls. So i fed them a dose of Tiger bloom, Big bloom, Molasses, Roots Organix HP Guano phos forumula, Cal/mag, and i left out any other extra additives this time around -- except for lining the top of the soil with a little cottonseed meal to cover the nitrogen def, should that be the problem. I only added a little bit to each gallon, like a 1/4 of the recommended dose, but i went full strength with the Tiger bloom n Big bloom, n Molasses. I just wanted to go one watering without doin TOO TOO much to the plants, N then next time around i think i might flush once, and then resume the regular nutrient regimen. I dont know if im makin sense, im just taking precautionary measures so i dont see the fuckin tops n all the important parts of my girls fuckin get all fucked up lookin. I want a lush green grow from start to finish.


Ill be using Water the next time around, but after that ill be using Purple Maxx, added in with Tiger, Bigbloom, Molasses, n maybe a sploosh of Super Plant TOnic. I really dont know if im supposed to use that stuff throughout the entire grow or not, lol, but im usin it anyways i think.

Where you at King?