vortex and jack's cleaner2 are my fav's...I'd love to get ahold of the original j.c....I'd also like to do a male j.c.2 to a female lemon larry...that'd be a hyperbomb! the vortex males turned out to be king midas...BAM- gold! my nepali vortexes: 3 nepali smelling; one- tangerine comet? psychedelic citrus cleaner #5?...it smells like something you just can't put your finger on, but super intense- like requiring goggles and a respirator when trimming! of course that'll be a keeper(clone city).