Kaya Gold

Sorry, but I'm back using the piece of crap camera, my wife has her's with her.

I had to take a ladder out this morning to add some support to the main colas of the biggest plants, so per your request, pictures with a 6ft step ladder for scale.

I gave my little plant that started flowering in June a light feeding of super bloom yesterday, I think it will be it's last. I've been doing some reading, and I think it's about 2 weeks out from being finished. I read this thread from this guy fddk2 or something like that. He doesn't really use a microscope just bases it on the color of the pistils. Mine are starting to color, some browns, reds, and purples. Nirvana says the strain finishes in 7-9 weeks, so that would be about right. I"ve only found one thread on here from someone who has actually grown Kaya gold, and he said they were fast finishing.

Since it started flowering early I think because it got less sunlight, I think it will mostly be popcorn buds, they don't look as dense as one of the other plants that is further along than the other 4. It seems that all of the plants are kind of at different points in being finished, which is good since I will be able to harvest in stages.

There's not a whole lot of bud on most of the lower shoots, I just don't think they got enough sun. I think my grow space is a little tight for 5 plants.

Amazing work! My question is regarding location of the plants. I see there are trees around and how they had absorbed enough sun lights with these trees around to be so huge?

Yeah man you don't need a microscope to tell you when it's done. I read that same thread from fdd2blk a little while back. I think he says once the hairs start turning brown and pulling back into the buds is when it's ready. Although, I've picked early before and didn't really see much loss in potency. I'm assuming just a loss in yield,

looks like 10lbs of win to me!

marijuanabg said:

Amazing work! My question is regarding location of the plants. I see there are trees around and how they had absorbed enough sun lights with these trees around to be so huge?

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I'm amazed they got this big in 5 gallon buckets.

They get about 6 hours of direct sunlight, plus some indirect sunlight. I found a good spot. This is planted pine plantation, and for those of you who don't know much about timber, this track was logged about 10-12 years ago, and they planted pines back in rows. Now the spot I was at had a big stump from what was cut before, so the pines didn't really grow. I mostly had to thin out small gum saplings. But the opening is pretty narrow, maybe 15 ft wide or so, but it runs in a general east west direction, so the sun kind of tracks through.

It's not perfect, but believe me, no one will find them unless it's from the air, but I don't think that would happen either. It's just such a small spot.

I'm going to do a little more work this winter, there's a couple of good size gum trees that I'm thinking about taking out, but I'd need a chain saw. The work I did this spring was just with a machete.

The thing is, this timber is ready to be thinned, like I said it's about 10-12 years old. Generally speaking, pines this age, they would thin and sell for pulp, allowing the remaing trees to grow much larger. If they did it during my grow, that would be bad. But, if they were to go in there and thin this winter, man this spot would be awesome.

Pureblood89 said:

looks like 10lbs of win to me!

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I really don't think it will be that much, but I think I'll be happy.

Guy on here had a thread that got a pound from a plant in 5 gallon bucket. My goal was 1/4 lb per plant. The small plant isn't going to yield that much, I'm thinking a couple of ounces, but I think the rest will top 1/4lb, maybe a 1/3rd, maybe a little more. I'm not sure, but I think it will be good if nothing happens.

This is such a sick grow dude! Probably my favorite (other than mine of course ). I can't believe how big they got in 5 gallon buckets too. Just think how big they might have gotten if they were in bigger buckets or in the ground. Man, I was one click away from going with kaya gold. I'm starting to wish I did, haha.

You gotta plan for drying and curing? My little auto I picked back in early july was only like 1/8 and it stunk half my house up and it was in a closet. I could only imagine what 1 lb+ is going to smell like.

Looks like a sweet spot, definitely worth investing some time in during the offseason if you're gonna grow next year. I actually took a couple trees down at my one patch with a big ass bow saw. One was like 8" in diameter, so it's possible without a chainsaw, just takes forever.

sonar said:

This is such a sick grow dude! Probably my favorite (other than mine of course ). I can't believe how big they got in 5 gallon buckets too. Just think how big they might have gotten if they were in bigger buckets or in the ground. Man, I was one click away from going with kaya gold. I'm starting to wish I did, haha.

You gotta plan for drying and curing? My little auto I picked back in early july was only like 1/8 and it stunk half my house up and it was in a closet. I could only imagine what 1 lb+ is going to smell like.

Looks like a sweet spot, definitely worth investing some time in during the offseason if you're gonna grow next year. I actually took a couple trees down at my one patch with a big ass bow saw. One was like 8" in diameter, so it's possible without a chainsaw, just takes forever.

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I don't have a good plan for drying and curing. The good thing is it looks like they will finish at different times. I have a barn, which would be my best choice, but the humidity is too high right now. I have a gun safe in my closet that I keep locked and only I have the key. I may try the small one there to see how bad the smell is.

Ok, a little update.
First of all, I got a new camera, so I apologize for the number of pictures. Still trying to figure it out, but I am getting better shots.

I spent over an hour today, grooming and pruning my plants. They are flowering hard and have lost a lot of fan leaves. I wanted to get all of that dead growth off so it would not hold moisture.

I had posted that I thought the small plant that started flowering in June would be finished in two weeks. Two weeks is tomorrow. It's not ready. It has had some problems, so I had given consideration to chopping it anyway. If you remember, it had a problem at the base of the stalk, with a boring insect, or maybe rot. It has been ok, but there's a picture that shows, how the bottom branches have completely colapsed. They are still attached, and alive but they ain't looking too good. One that was laying on the ground I did cut today. It was getting a little moldy were it was on the ground. I also cut a couple of buds that looked like they were getting moldy. The guy who grew this before, said he did have a problem with mold.

I've also lost a couple of limbs at the top this past week. It just started looking bad, and it had a dead fan leaf that I pulled off, and the whole limb came with it. It looked like it was rotten were it attached to the stalk.

Good news on that though, is I have had some smoke. Nothing properly cured yet, but I have found that it will get you high. First I smoked a hit from a one hitter about 3 times, and I had a pretty good buzz. I took a few hits last night on top of about 5 Jim Beam's and I was fucked up.

The plan now is to let the small plant keep going. It doesn't have a whole lot of color to the pistils yet, maybe 35% have turned brown, so I figure a couple more weeks will help it a lot. I also noticed that it is getting more smell too it, all of them are so something good must be happening.

I do have one problem that I am very concerned about. On the main cola of the biggest plant, some bud leaves are starting to die. Now I've lost a lot of fan leaves, I'm not even concerned about that at this point, I think it's natural for a plant that's flowering. It's the only one, and they don't look good. The buds themselves are not close to being finished. There are some pictures in here, so if anyone has ever seen anything like this let me know what I can do. It's only that one plant.

In fact the 2nd biggest plant is the best looking one. She looks exactly like she's supposed too. Fullof nicely packed buds.

And then I have the plant that looks different than all of the others. These are supposed to be Sativa dominant, and that one looks more Indica. I don't know if it was a mistake, or just some weird thing hybrids do, throw off an odd ball. But, it has the strongest smell by far. When I was pruning today, If my face was within a foot of the plant I was smelling some skunk. The other four, you have to stick your nose right in to get the smell.

I got some pictures also of the limb and couple of buds I cut off today. Didn't do much trimming. Don't see a whole lot of reason to, not worried about presentation or anything. Besides, I had read a thread that you shouldn't trim Sativas too tight, a lot of thc in the bud leaves. I can say that they are pretty covered with resin. And before anyone says I cut off buds prematurely, these came from one of the limbs on the small plant that was laying on the ground and moldy on the bottom.

I definitely think I am going to be fighting a mold issue. The other guy who grew this strain lost some buds to mold.

It's been raining alot late afternoons, and then 90% humidity over night. I cut off a couple of buds today that had started molding.

I wonder if that is part of the problem with the bud leaves on the main cola of the big plant. It looks different, but I don't know.

I will try to post a picture of what a moldy bud looks like.

It rained this afternoon for about an hour, now the suns out and I just went and checked and it is steamy in the woods. I think I may have a problem.

I shook all of the plants to get the water off of them, but it don't look good, seemed worse.

I also noticed a couple of other plants were there were almost no brown pistils yesterday, and now it looks like about 35% have turned brown overnight.

I'm thinking about cutting off some fan leaves on the main colas just to take away surface that can hold water, and shade what's lower. I hope this doesn't turn into a disaster.

That sucks bro. I'm starting to worry about mold myself. It's not as humid up here as it is where you are, but I still have a feeling it's going to be an issue. The bug spray I have contains sulfur, which is suppose to help against mold, but the thing is it washes off when it rains, which is when you need it the most. Good luck buddy, lemme know how it turns out.

some monsters u got there! just for some advice i wouldnt be trimming anything when tree is in flower! the plant goes into concentrating on replacing them and not forming thc and denser budz! also if your fan leaves are dying off then that is a deficiency and u need to feed them u should aim to keep everything green !! they look great though +rep and subd! cant wait to see yeild

hey dude i am new to this and i am planning my first grow next april I live in the same region as you do i suppose. just wondering when you got your seeds from nirvana how discreet was the packaging

killakill63 said:

hey dude i am new to this and i am planning my first grow next april I live in the same region as you do i suppose. just wondering when you got your seeds from nirvana how discreet was the packaging

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It was cool, no problems.

rastadred22 said:

some monsters u got there! just for some advice i wouldnt be trimming anything when tree is in flower! the plant goes into concentrating on replacing them and not forming thc and denser budz! also if your fan leaves are dying off then that is a deficiency and u need to feed them u should aim to keep everything green !! they look great though +rep and subd! cant wait to see yeild

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I appreciate it, but I really disagree. I can take a lot of fan leaves off of those main colas, the plant isn't going to replace them at this point, everything is going into the buds. Fan leaves dying at this point is natural, the plant is absorbing the carbs. The problem is bud leaves turning brown and drying up. I've got a mold problem, every other considertion is irrelevant at this point, I'm trying to save what I've got.

sonar said:

That sucks bro. I'm starting to worry about mold myself. It's not as humid up here as it is where you are, but I still have a feeling it's going to be an issue. The bug spray I have contains sulfur, which is suppose to help against mold, but the thing is it washes off when it rains, which is when you need it the most. Good luck buddy, lemme know how it turns out.

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I got to tell you, I was really depressed this afternoon. I should have done a lot to avoid this. Simple thing, I went out this afternoon after it rained and just shook the plants to shake wate off of them. I should have already been doing this.

And the guy who had the journal on here, said he had a mold problem with this strain. I PM'd him a couple times, and he said that he was growing it again because it did so well, but that he was going to thin his foliage when they started flowering.

I really should have done some thinning a couple weeks ago. But, I did some thinning today. Tried to get enough off so that sun could get to the buds, but leave plenty to absorb sunlight.

I'm not panicking at this point though. Weather is going to be cooler this week. No rain in the forcast. I'm going to have to cut a lot off of the main cola of the big plant, but I can't do anything until this Sun. If I had to cut all of it now, I'd have over a pound of bud that is better than the commercial on the street.

I've just got to try to keep as much of it going for as long as it can. If it goes another week, it will be better. Two weeks, better than that. 3 weeks, and I'll be home free.

Well I hope everything turns out well for ya man, I'm rooting for ya. It seems like pruning is one of those never ending debates like organic vs non organic, soil vs hydro, coke vs pepsi...

I see where you're coming from. Right now preservation is the only thing that matter. You know your plants better than anyone. If trimming the bud leaves is gonna open it up to more light to help evaporate water and give it less area to collect then go for it. Even if they are right and pruning will decrease the yield, then so be it. It's better to lose an ounce of yield because you took off some fan leaves than lose 50% of the bud you worked so hard for. I'm guessing the main colas and denser sections are what's getting hit the hardest. Once those buds get thick there is a lot more space for moisture to collect and makes a great place for mold to hide. Wish I could be more help.

Hey, new camera! Sweet. I've been on vacation for a couple weeks. I'll read through the details soon, but from what I saw things are looking really ncie. Those sure are monsters. Mine don't seem to be growing all that much any more I'll have to bring out the tape measurer but they sure don't seem much taller. I always get jealous seeing how large yours got in those buckets. I blame the heat for my weak growth

Carolina Green Bud said:

I appreciate it, but I really disagree. I can take a lot of fan leaves off of those main colas, the plant isn't going to replace them at this point, everything is going into the buds. Fan leaves dying at this point is natural, the plant is absorbing the carbs. The problem is bud leaves turning brown and drying up. I've got a mold problem, every other considertion is irrelevant at this point, I'm trying to save what I've got.

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if u look through peoples journals such as riddleme they would tell u that a plant will take nutes from the leaves that it needs if it is not getting it from the roots...the idea is to 'keep it green' and giving thre plant what it needs to stay green which results in greater yeild and simply better bud...wasnt knocking u in anyway was trying to inform trying to help...those 'carbs' u are referring to that is 'natural' are being sucked up from the fan leaves simply becuase it isnt getting it from the medium...the roots arent able to feed the plant what it needs resulting in the plant taking these 'carbs' from the fan leaves...i understand that u have a mold problem...but that doesnt mean to reject anoter...