Keeping the good smell after harvest??????
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hawse
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I suspect that had a lot to do with it being under developed/heady etc... too. Reminds me of the stuff I grew first starting when I wasn't using enough light... Same strain grown by me today after almost three years experience is way better than grown by my newbie self. And to never stop learning is the key I think, and experimenting, trusting your own results over what you read online... (although this seems to be a pretty solid forum to some others I tried in terms of avoiding all the typical myths and marketing junk...)
Smitty42088
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I actually just Harvested two days ago and it was smelling super dank but as they dry they seem to be losing its smell little by little unless you handle them then the dankness comes.Im hoping the cure on jars help give it it's dankness back.I actually believe I was a little late for one plants the hairs are mostly red and doesn't smell as sweet as the other two!
mr. childs
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stems break cleanly ? jar it up with a hygrometer & watch if for 24 hours
Smitty42088
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It's looking pretty good man,I haven't finished jarring it all the lemon needed a little more dry time I feel so slowly trimmed my way through it Its laying out on the table in pieces ready to go in jars soon !!I I did a lil test weigh on some of it so far and I'm satisfied so far.I got 5.5 Oz's out of my gorilla glue alone and I put half my LA Chocolate in the last jar and it was 3 Oz's I predict the lemon Haze to get around 4 but we will see.Updates soon!!
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mr. childs
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if you have a ross, marshalls, tj maxx, or home goods near you go in there & pick up some fido clasp type glass jars. they seal more efficiently then the ones you currently have. 
the last two pics are 1.5 gallons jars that i picked up for $6. you can fill them 90% of jar & hang a hygrometer inside & store them away. but on the other hand the jars you have, since they dont seal completely they will slowly release gas, which helps with curing & drying. good job on your harvest enjoy those buds.
the last two pics are 1.5 gallons jars that i picked up for $6. you can fill them 90% of jar & hang a hygrometer inside & store them away. but on the other hand the jars you have, since they dont seal completely they will slowly release gas, which helps with curing & drying. good job on your harvest enjoy those buds.
Smitty42088
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Thank man and I know they are low quality jars I plan on getting some better ones once the burping is done...
LinguaPeel
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Your herb must suck yer boyfriends shitty dick!
Go buy some bell peppers, right now. The prices will be over a dollar a pop, and they will be hydroponic because they are out of season. They will smell like plastic, moth balls, or gasoline,depending on how fuct up your brain is from smoking unflushed herb, and what brand of nutes they used.
No literature because no one cares about quality. Published science is corporate science. People with brains are told quality is subjective or that it's something you can fake. Because people with brains are the minority. You'll never understand minorities, you placebo supremacists.
Hydroponic produce usea the very minimum npk for commercial crops, and brain-bearing real life fully functional humans can tell the different between a hydroponic tomatoe and a natural real tomatoes. Or bell pepper. Or Lettuce.
Hydroponic Cannabis growers use the maximum nutes, and their existence relies on hoping no Cannabis smokers are real authentic human beings with working brains. Sorry to tell you, that's not the case. I could tell what brand of bullshit salts you use just smelling the stuff. You refuse to stop feeding because latent npk has weight. Yo don't know what quality is. Especially if you think harvesting after a dark period and cold temps is a myth. Its the only way you can flush natural organic herb(by putting the rhizosphere into hibernation) without physically changing osmotic pressure at the rhizo to block uptake.
Lordhooha
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Lol your goofy ass is still alive.
Dr. Who
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I thought you would be dead by now...... Nobody else can live with their head so far up their ass!
Hell, you couldn't even grow the pepper to save your life....
ChiefRunningPhist
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It seems most people are siding one way or the other based on a snipet of science-talk to back-up their "gut" feeling. So I'll add too the misery lol
Let's be honest, if any one of us were actual PhD botinists the debate would be over by now. But most people find a rung in the ladder that they can explain a little bit further than the average Joe and then springboard off that saying something to the effect of, "well theres so much more, and it's so complex" yada yada yada...
I hear what one dude is saying about the plant canabalizing itself for fuel if none is present, thus it's the same thing as feeding till chop...
But tbh the flush method holds weight or seems plausible to me. If you're curing a bunch of chemical filled buds its going to taste and smoke different. If you put a white carnation in water with blue dye added to the water, the white carnation will turn blue. The chemical is in the flower, and it has been chopped.
If the plant is given time to utilize and transform the last bit of nutes into energy and only given water in return, it seems plausible that the plant will be filled with fresh water in its veins at chop instead of nutes in the veins (like the carnation)...
Photosynthesis happens by photons emitted by light, igniting a chemical chain reaction. I'm sure this reaction to create energy via canabalism is NOT the exact reverse.
Because theres no chemical in the vein and because the energy provided by canabalism and photosynthesis utilize different processes, it stands to reason that there is a difference in final chemical composition of a bud that is flushed vs non...
Lol go ahead tell me how stupid I am.. Just provide some data while you do it haha
I flush w plain water btw but you do you..
Let's be honest, if any one of us were actual PhD botinists the debate would be over by now. But most people find a rung in the ladder that they can explain a little bit further than the average Joe and then springboard off that saying something to the effect of, "well theres so much more, and it's so complex" yada yada yada...
I hear what one dude is saying about the plant canabalizing itself for fuel if none is present, thus it's the same thing as feeding till chop...
But tbh the flush method holds weight or seems plausible to me. If you're curing a bunch of chemical filled buds its going to taste and smoke different. If you put a white carnation in water with blue dye added to the water, the white carnation will turn blue. The chemical is in the flower, and it has been chopped.
If the plant is given time to utilize and transform the last bit of nutes into energy and only given water in return, it seems plausible that the plant will be filled with fresh water in its veins at chop instead of nutes in the veins (like the carnation)...
Photosynthesis happens by photons emitted by light, igniting a chemical chain reaction. I'm sure this reaction to create energy via canabalism is NOT the exact reverse.
Because theres no chemical in the vein and because the energy provided by canabalism and photosynthesis utilize different processes, it stands to reason that there is a difference in final chemical composition of a bud that is flushed vs non...
Lol go ahead tell me how stupid I am.. Just provide some data while you do it haha
60°f @ 55%rh for 2 weeks. Slowest speed oscillating fan (just air currents is what you want) on hanging bud as well as replenishing air in room via exhaust fan as needed per rh. Then cure to preference. I just smoke as is.
I flush w plain water btw but you do you..
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Saying chemical filled bud sounds like a scare tactic. You'll find the same chemicals in all plants that every animal on earth requires for survival. You eat plants or you eat animals that eat plants for your daily allowance of "chemicals" Plants aren't made of fertilizer. micros make up less than 0.02% of a plants dry matter, otherwise trees would be in sink holes.
Carnations aren't absorbing blue water through their roots. Try watering plants with kool aid and see if you can taste it or if it changes colors. Try foliar feeding leaves closest to the bud and see if that works.
When nutes become deficient the ones that can be moved are moved to the newest growth. That being the bud/flower that is responsible for reproduction. Doesn't It make sense that would be the last part being shorted food?
Finding "proof" isn't really possible because only people growing weed do it or think it functions different from other plants. Farmers aren't flushing acres of corn. This will cover some parts https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_nutrition
Another thing to consider is mobile/ immobile nutrients. Only half of the chemicals can be moved around the plant regardless if it's deficient or not.
https://nrcca.cals.cornell.edu/soilFertilityCA/CA1/CA1_print.html
Cannabis is also a hyperaccumulator able to absorb toxic levels of metals without toxicity symptoms ever showing.Those metals are immobile they're not leaving the plant once absorbed. Flushing gives people a green light to dump whatever new super sweet serum bud building blaster billy joe bob down at the hydro shop sold them thinking it can all just be flushed away. In reality its being consumed. Why not spread the truth and save peoples health and a few bucks.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4235884/
Pan the man
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Did your buds smell like fresh cut grass after hanging for 2 days?....man mine smells like grass after 2 days not sure if this is normal but smelled like fruit loops cereal while fresh but now smells grassy hope the jars takes care of the smell and taste..
Pan the man
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Did it smell good growing?....I have 3 plants that now smell of fresh cut grass that did smell really fruity but after 2 days of hanging turning into a grass smell..did u ever figure out the solution to this issue?I’m only on my second grow, but my first grow I did outside here in Michigan. Plant was 5 foot tall and flowered for like....80-90 days (multiple years ago). For sure a Sativa, I still feel like I chopped early even though some trichs were Amber. I remember drying the best I could, and I remember curing for a month. Never could get rid of the cut grass smell. It was disappointing. Smoked okay, but too heady (another sign of early harvest) for me. I literally gave away all of it. I wasn’t going to smoke it and would have felt guilty taking money for it (not that someone like myself would ever do such a thing)
ChiefRunningPhist
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Would you rather drink water or nute water? I'm guessing 1 will taste different than the other? We may utilize all the compounds in the nute water but it might still smell and taste different than pure water.
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Everything is a chemical. Idk what you want me to call it? Solution?
And yes plants can impart taste and smell based on what they are grown in. Look at vineyards.
I'm not disputing that nutes used to create and grow the plant are still residing in the plant. I'm no refuting that some elements are mobile and some or immobile. I'm also not saying you can flush the toxicity out of your plants.
I'm saying that nute water remaining in the veins of the plant at chop will have the water evaporate during drying and curing but the solutes in the nute solution are NOT evaporating and are left as a precipitate in the plant after the water that they were dissolved in evaporated during curing.
When I grew outdoor you couldn't control if the plant could feed or not because I didn't have total control over the root zone. My bud, no matter how long or slow I dried, would always have a grass smell when dried and would be harsh af. When I grow hydroponically and can flush before I chop, the grass smell isn't there when I dry. The harshness isn't there either. Maybe I'm getting lucky and my nute ratios are depleting evenly and thus there's not a nitrogen abundance at chop (non flushers reasoning), or maybe because my plant had to break down its stored sugars and starches to survive and the fact that there is no dissolved solids in the water and that the sugars are depleted means the smoke will be less harsh (flushers reasoning)??
Ime, the more you feed up until chop the more grass like its going to smell and harsh its going to be. The darker green a plant at chop usually means its going to be harsh and grassy smelling.
Thanks for the links. I've looked at the wiki before. I'm not trying to say you can detoxify a plant laden with heavy metals with a flush. I'm saying nute water tastes and smells different than plain water and that there is reason to believe that the elements in the nute water that remain behind after the water has evaporated will effect taste and smell???