Keeping thieves away

Garden Boss

Garden Boss

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UncleBuck said:
i went for the combo:



the dachshund/corgie mix barks at everything, and the dane/mastiff mix starts paying attention when she does.

next up: GEESE! the ultimate guard animal.
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Agreed. Geese are vicious watchers or the night. I grew up on a farm with a flock of a dozen, I walked around with a hockey stick to push them away. I've been laughed at a few times when I mention them as guard dogs but you can't sneak up on them and they're fucking mean at night.
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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I use several methods to slow down thieves. My next door neighbors grandidiots got into one of my greenhouses the year we built it. Got away with enough to trim out to five pounds. After viewing the evidence(dfead leaves in a path to their garage back door, which I could see from my yard,), I confronted the homeowner. She denied the theft. I informed her that I would kill any future thieves. I then installed several measures to deter theft. The following year, they tried, and discovered I had made stealth impossible. They called the police. Pretty soon we had a swat team around our home.(I was at work during the day, so my wife had to deal with half our police department.) She showed them our recommendations, and then gave them a tour of our grow. They approved my design and security measures and haven't returned. A year later, a picture they took of my nearly mature garden ended up on the cover of the city magazine. They were also interested in what we told them about our neighbor. They went over after, and suggested, for their own liberty to leave us alone.

My measures? Chain link topped with barbed wire around the greenhouse walls. The cage is a 16x8 foot chain link dog kennel. Covered with 6"x6" remesh. About August first I string lengths of barbed wire throughout the garden at various heights and angles, making it very difficult to even get to any of the grow areas. I have motion detectors throughout the garden, and keep the base unit on my desk. I NEVER leave home at night from September 1st until I've completed harvest in mid October. All my neighbors(except the one mentioned above) are retired LEOs. They're good neighbors and fully aware of what I do. I've considered buying cameras, but my wife is disabled so our house is almost never unoccupied. Everything is locked up when I'm not actually working in the garden.
I figure some idiot will give it another try, sooner or later. I have several items scattered around the yard in case the thief tries to confront me. The pitchfork stands next to my back door. An old axe, a couple old aluminum bats, and various other implements are hidden around the garden in unlikely spots. I also have a promise from the police that anyone caught in my garden WILL be prosecuted.

Hopefully this will give others a few ideas.
 
thump easy

thump easy

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AlecTheGardener said:
This is surveillance not security unfortunately. Cameras will do nothing to stop a ripper, nothing. It takes someone in close proximity to actually BE a form of security.

Cameras watch.

People can deter and intimidate.

So after my plants have been ripped and I have been held at gunpoint what good does DVR footage do for me?

Cannot turn it into LEO, useless. Now I would have a recording of myself getting jacked pissing my pants and being held at gunpoint.


The more remote the location the more useless. This idea is excellent for home medical gardens though. The garden is often just in the other room, quick reaction to an alert in this scenario is GREAT!
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thats rights its a shop camera and we are moments away... as for guns and robbers its hard the only time i ever been robbed was the cops came and took everthing twice no charges just kept it and droped the charges,
 
BWG707

BWG707

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veggiegardener said:
I use several methods to slow down thieves. My next door neighbors grandidiots got into one of my greenhouses the year we built it. Got away with enough to trim out to five pounds. After viewing the evidence(dfead leaves in a path to their garage back door, which I could see from my yard,), I confronted the homeowner. She denied the theft. I informed her that I would kill any future thieves. I then installed several measures to deter theft. The following year, they tried, and discovered I had made stealth impossible. They called the police. Pretty soon we had a swat team around our home.(I was at work during the day, so my wife had to deal with half our police department.) She showed them our recommendations, and then gave them a tour of our grow. They approved my design and security measures and haven't returned. A year later, a picture they took of my nearly mature garden ended up on the cover of the city magazine. They were also interested in what we told them about our neighbor. They went over after, and suggested, for their own liberty to leave us alone.

My measures? Chain link topped with barbed wire around the greenhouse walls. The cage is a 16x8 foot chain link dog kennel. Covered with 6"x6" remesh. About August first I string lengths of barbed wire throughout the garden at various heights and angles, making it very difficult to even get to any of the grow areas. I have motion detectors throughout the garden, and keep the base unit on my desk. I NEVER leave home at night from September 1st until I've completed harvest in mid October. All my neighbors(except the one mentioned above) are retired LEOs. They're good neighbors and fully aware of what I do. I've considered buying cameras, but my wife is disabled so our house is almost never unoccupied. Everything is locked up when I'm not actually working in the garden.
I figure some idiot will give it another try, sooner or later. I have several items scattered around the yard in case the thief tries to confront me. The pitchfork stands next to my back door. An old axe, a couple old aluminum bats, and various other implements are hidden around the garden in unlikely spots. I also have a promise from the police that anyone caught in my garden WILL be prosecuted.

Hopefully this will give others a few ideas.
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Your lucky to be living in community with a wise and understanding
police force. What state do you live in?
 
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Red1966

Red1966

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veggiegardener said:
I use several methods to slow down thieves. My next door neighbors grandidiots got into one of my greenhouses the year we built it. Got away with enough to trim out to five pounds. After viewing the evidence(dfead leaves in a path to their garage back door, which I could see from my yard,), I confronted the homeowner. She denied the theft. I informed her that I would kill any future thieves. I then installed several measures to deter theft. The following year, they tried, and discovered I had made stealth impossible. They called the police. Pretty soon we had a swat team around our home.(I was at work during the day, so my wife had to deal with half our police department.) She showed them our recommendations, and then gave them a tour of our grow. They approved my design and security measures and haven't returned. A year later, a picture they took of my nearly mature garden ended up on the cover of the city magazine. They were also interested in what we told them about our neighbor. They went over after, and suggested, for their own liberty to leave us alone.

My measures? Chain link topped with barbed wire around the greenhouse walls. The cage is a 16x8 foot chain link dog kennel. Covered with 6"x6" remesh. About August first I string lengths of barbed wire throughout the garden at various heights and angles, making it very difficult to even get to any of the grow areas. I have motion detectors throughout the garden, and keep the base unit on my desk. I NEVER leave home at night from September 1st until I've completed harvest in mid October. All my neighbors(except the one mentioned above) are retired LEOs. They're good neighbors and fully aware of what I do. I've considered buying cameras, but my wife is disabled so our house is almost never unoccupied. Everything is locked up when I'm not actually working in the garden.
I figure some idiot will give it another try, sooner or later. I have several items scattered around the yard in case the thief tries to confront me. The pitchfork stands next to my back door. An old axe, a couple old aluminum bats, and various other implements are hidden around the garden in unlikely spots. I also have a promise from the police that anyone caught in my garden WILL be prosecuted.

Hopefully this will give others a few ideas.
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Sadly, a promise from the police is worthless.
 
purplehays1

purplehays1

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8' fence and well trained dogs do wonders in this situation. People are scared shitless of a big shepherd or doberman. They will decide it really isn't worth the trouble and find some other schmuck with less secure premise. But as the above said, if people really want it, they will take it, and unless u are willing to use violence (not recommended) u cant really stop them. Its about deterrence, just making it so that stealing from you is harder for them than finding someone else to rob.

Also, a dog is a great warning system.
 
MonkeyGrinder

MonkeyGrinder

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UncleBuck said:
i went for the combo:

the dachshund/corgie mix barks at everything, and the dane/mastiff mix starts paying attention when she does.

next up: GEESE! the ultimate guard animal.
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That's not a dog that's a small horse!

Little dogs make great alarms though
 
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Extacie

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passthat2me said:
My boy just sits, stares & waits...no eating or sleeping..lol...always ready....

2nd pic he's teaching the ropes to the newest member of the security team...
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This may have been covered as I haven't read the whole thread, but is that window screen fenced around your plants? Was wondering how that helps with bugs/ppl not being able to see quite as well, your reason for using, etc? Great looking dog by the way!
 
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Extacie

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SenorBrownWater said:
Some people here sleep in tents during the end of flower...
Dogs and guns are not the correct answer.....
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This is what my buddy said to do.. Think it would look suspicious to neighbors camping in the back yard the last 1-2 months? Been debating whether to do it or not :/
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Extacie said:
This is what my buddy said to do.. Think it would look suspicious to neighbors camping in the back yard the last 1-2 months? Been debating whether to do it or not :/
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think of it as a service to your neighbors since you're keeping thieves not only out of your own backyard, but theirs as well.
 
Hydrotech364

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purplehays1 said:
8' fence and well trained dogs do wonders in this situation. People are scared shitless of a big shepherd or doberman. They will decide it really isn't worth the trouble and find some other schmuck with less secure premise. But as the above said, if people really want it, they will take it, and unless u are willing to use violence (not recommended) u cant really stop them. Its about deterrence, just making it so that stealing from you is harder for them than finding someone else to rob.

Also, a dog is a great warning system.
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That's Why I Have Sniper ;)

 
ruby fruit

ruby fruit

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AlecTheGardener said:
I do not disagree with your sentiment, not one bit. Americans are litigious in nature, I was just shedding light on that a little.

A reminder to anyone considering installing trespassing deterrents. They will ruin your year by dragging you to court where you will more then likely lose.

If your deterrent harms someone good luck if they decide to lawyer up.
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and this is where the world is fucked up....someone else might suffer pain by doing the wrong thing thieving.......then want to sue you that sort of stuff started in one place in the world and now is infectious everywhere
 
ruby fruit

ruby fruit

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I think people who are negative to people who want to protect their hard earned work are the ones who don't put as much effort in and maybe a little jealous?hope what I say makes sense bongsmilie
 
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