keysareme
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Flower time.
The big girl, can be seen how she was when I picked her up in the earlier entries at the link above.
The change to 12/12 is in the middle of her 10th week at 72 days.
Her taller sister was picked up about three weeks after.
For her the change will be at around 50 days.
The plants from seed are about a month old, and have been on 18/6 since germination.
Under LED is a massive vigorous healthy beauty. Roots have me filling the fabric pot as they eat and grow to the surface. Plant went from cup, 1 gallon, to current 3 gallon.
Two other ones, roots are outgrowing their homes and well.
I would like to make statement of clear fact, that a 1000w hps is more efficient than any combination of cfls. Quite possibly any combination of cfl/led as well.
A 400w hps is still four times more efficient than the 1000w cfl/led that was on for a month. 400w hps puts out nearly double the lumens and pulls only the 400 plus ballast.
While the light was welcomed and appreciated, the overall inefficiency for having over a kW/hr was enough.
To have an abundance of wisdom and insight about light and lumens/watt, all the way to where it shows on a piece on a piece of paper what the effect is.
I'd like to post the actual "cost" to run a 1000w cfl grow, and hopefully, though I could not caution all, I still may warn a few, don't burn your watts away..
I am a medical patient and cultivation is for me to have organic, and eventually vegan, medicine for my body, heart, mind and soul. I acquired my 'foundation' for a donation of 340, included; 5x2x4 tent, 4" outtake w/ carbon, (1) 65w & (1) 125w (w/ socket) cfl's, 90w led,
magnifying unit, info book, 8 buckets and a half bag of organic perlite.
125w - 35
(3) 105w - 60
200 & 250w (both w/ reflector sockets) - 40
That is 135. The two larger cfl's were a fortunate encounter. Other four were ordered.
We have 475 invested so far, and no nutrients, fabric pots, meters, soil/coco, water, circulation fans, seeds or clones.
That's cool though, cause I'm talking about light efficiency.
Put in another, 20 for both clones, seeds were, happily, found locally, 60 for ppm/ec and pH meters, 25 for nutrients I may not make the most use of, 12 for a timer, 7 for a scrog screen, 30 for the pH calibration(s) and indicator, 30 for 1, 3, 5 gallon fabric pots, 10 for drain trays and 20 for organic soil. That's 214.
Back to the lights, the accumulation 1000w cfl's put out around 50,000 lumens. About 38% of a premium 1000w hps, right?
Ill be happy to break down which cfl bulb has how many lumens just ask.
A premium 600w hps shines at 90000 lumens, still 45% more efficient than 1000w of cfl's, and running 40% less watts.
400w hps gives us 50000 lumens. Just as efficient in output, and more efficient at 60% less watts.
With all that, I had about 500w total, fan included, for a month, increase of 18 on electrical.
Running the full 1000w of cfl's plus fan and occasional computer (400w w/ monitor), for just a month, additional increase of 70.
Does that seem efficient to you? Now let's put all the figures together.
340 initial investment
135 more cfls
214 garden/nutrient(s)
18 month uno
70 month dos
777 for two months of cultivating. Two girls from clone, three seeds.
For any considering cfl's, look at what I did, and seek out what else is available, cause it can be done much more efficiently.
Even 150 for the tent, another 100-200 for hood, ballast, reflector and bulb, 100 for fan filter, and 100 for seed/clone garden/nutrient is more efficient. That's at most 550 with at least double efficiency in lumens.
I've chosen to reduce the lighting to 635w with hopes of also lowering the electrical. 80 a month is not worth it for what the cfl's emit in relation to a 1000, 600 or 400w hps.
Much Love and Good Vibes!
Happy Growing for Compassionate and Abundant Health
Flower time.
The big girl, can be seen how she was when I picked her up in the earlier entries at the link above.
The change to 12/12 is in the middle of her 10th week at 72 days.
Her taller sister was picked up about three weeks after.
For her the change will be at around 50 days.
The plants from seed are about a month old, and have been on 18/6 since germination.
Under LED is a massive vigorous healthy beauty. Roots have me filling the fabric pot as they eat and grow to the surface. Plant went from cup, 1 gallon, to current 3 gallon.
Two other ones, roots are outgrowing their homes and well.
I would like to make statement of clear fact, that a 1000w hps is more efficient than any combination of cfls. Quite possibly any combination of cfl/led as well.
A 400w hps is still four times more efficient than the 1000w cfl/led that was on for a month. 400w hps puts out nearly double the lumens and pulls only the 400 plus ballast.
While the light was welcomed and appreciated, the overall inefficiency for having over a kW/hr was enough.
To have an abundance of wisdom and insight about light and lumens/watt, all the way to where it shows on a piece on a piece of paper what the effect is.
I'd like to post the actual "cost" to run a 1000w cfl grow, and hopefully, though I could not caution all, I still may warn a few, don't burn your watts away..
I am a medical patient and cultivation is for me to have organic, and eventually vegan, medicine for my body, heart, mind and soul. I acquired my 'foundation' for a donation of 340, included; 5x2x4 tent, 4" outtake w/ carbon, (1) 65w & (1) 125w (w/ socket) cfl's, 90w led,
magnifying unit, info book, 8 buckets and a half bag of organic perlite.
125w - 35
(3) 105w - 60
200 & 250w (both w/ reflector sockets) - 40
That is 135. The two larger cfl's were a fortunate encounter. Other four were ordered.
We have 475 invested so far, and no nutrients, fabric pots, meters, soil/coco, water, circulation fans, seeds or clones.
That's cool though, cause I'm talking about light efficiency.
Put in another, 20 for both clones, seeds were, happily, found locally, 60 for ppm/ec and pH meters, 25 for nutrients I may not make the most use of, 12 for a timer, 7 for a scrog screen, 30 for the pH calibration(s) and indicator, 30 for 1, 3, 5 gallon fabric pots, 10 for drain trays and 20 for organic soil. That's 214.
Back to the lights, the accumulation 1000w cfl's put out around 50,000 lumens. About 38% of a premium 1000w hps, right?
Ill be happy to break down which cfl bulb has how many lumens just ask.
A premium 600w hps shines at 90000 lumens, still 45% more efficient than 1000w of cfl's, and running 40% less watts.
400w hps gives us 50000 lumens. Just as efficient in output, and more efficient at 60% less watts.
With all that, I had about 500w total, fan included, for a month, increase of 18 on electrical.
Running the full 1000w of cfl's plus fan and occasional computer (400w w/ monitor), for just a month, additional increase of 70.
Does that seem efficient to you? Now let's put all the figures together.
340 initial investment
135 more cfls
214 garden/nutrient(s)
18 month uno
70 month dos
777 for two months of cultivating. Two girls from clone, three seeds.
For any considering cfl's, look at what I did, and seek out what else is available, cause it can be done much more efficiently.
Even 150 for the tent, another 100-200 for hood, ballast, reflector and bulb, 100 for fan filter, and 100 for seed/clone garden/nutrient is more efficient. That's at most 550 with at least double efficiency in lumens.
I've chosen to reduce the lighting to 635w with hopes of also lowering the electrical. 80 a month is not worth it for what the cfl's emit in relation to a 1000, 600 or 400w hps.
Much Love and Good Vibes!
Happy Growing for Compassionate and Abundant Health
