Killakc's Blue Dream, Tang Haze, Sour Kush, Chem Dawg, 1000w 5x5 Soil

This morning before work, I flushed about gallon for gallon with 6.5 PH water, all the plants. Next time I can do 2 gallons per gallon of soil, only had 30 gallons ready today. Sent my girlfriend to get lime but the store she went to didn't have any. Gonna have to have her get it tomorrow since I'm working all day again.

I was thinking about taking the nutes that I have mixed and PH them and feed a couple plants. Or maybe even just one. I'm still not doubting at all that they're hungry, they essentially haven't been fed much (since I cut it so much last feeding) for almost a month probably.

Would there be any benefit to root pruning and then repot these things into bigger containers with lime already added?

Or should I just top dress lime on my soil?


Plants are definitely not getting better from what I saw this morning. Lights off when I got home, but I'm sure I won't see a change for a while. I'd say almost 50% of the leaves have some type of mark on them. What is the point of no return lol? I mean they still look healthy at first glance, but you can see something is up at a closer look.
 

Curiosity2

Active Member
I would stop flushing the soil; there is really no need for this. I think you’re doing this to fix the PH problem, if so it’s not necessary, just add water/fertilizer of 6.5 PH from now on, you will be fine. Calibrate the PH pen often.

If you want to transplant, don’t cut roots, there is no need for this either. Just use a bigger pot and add a little lime to the new soil that goes in the new pot, follow mixing instructions (amount of lime to use) with the new soil only, do not include the volume of the old soil. Transplanting is going to stop or at least slow the above ground growth for 7 days while the roots fill the new pot. Dolomite lime has lots of Magnesium in it, more so than other types of lime, if available get it, and this will help with the mag deficiency that you said you have. Regular lime is fine as well just use the Epson salts with every other couple of watering’s.

I think you said in your last post that you haven’t fed yet, yet meaning since I’ve known you or mabe even a month, well if this is true than of course there is no sign of improvement, there starving and you haven’t fed them yet and to top it off your flushing the soil. If this is true fed them ASAP, mix the ppms to 800 or so not counting the water ppms.
 
Things are looking up over here I'd say. I think the PH is under control now. And the girls put on so much growth the past couple weeks that I had to pull 7 of the 12 that were under the screen. So now we're working with the Blue Dream and 4 bagseed girls. All of them smell amazing. Especially when pruning growth under the screen, I think these are some goodies I got here.

I started taking cuts of the Blue Dream cuz that's gonna be the one I grow out next. She smells incredible. Definitely overpowering of all the others. Probably because she's so big, but I think I really like the strain. She's taken more abuse than any of them but still seems to be a very happy plant.

Here's some pictures.
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Today is day 6 of 12/12. Got a couple pictures, no bud porn yet. But the girl on the left put out some very nice looking pistils today. I'm thinking I'll tuck them all back under the screen tomorrow or the next day and then let them grow out from there. I'm hoping that'll leave me with lots of 6"-12" colas by the time they quit stretching. They must've all grown about 4" just today lol, it's crazy.
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strikinghigh55

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Nice looking ScrOG. Just read through and was glad to see that they pulled right through the bumpy patch in the road and are looking great again. You throwing your clones under the screen for the next grow?
 
Thank you guys for stopping in and the great feedback.

strikinghigh, I actually got rid of all the other 7 plants. Ended up getting cash and an AC which I'll definitely need with the heat coming. I took LOTS of BD clones tho and ended up with lots of good roots. And I got my other 1000w ballast, so sometime in the near future, I'll throw another light in the flower room and put all the Blue Dream clones in there sog-style.

I did so bad my first try at cloning that I way overcompensated the next time lol. And got more than I was thinking I would since I changed the method. If anyone in the Colorado Springs area would like a cut or two, let me know and you can have it.

Tried to ask in another thread, but has anyone ever tried running 2 1k's but switching power to each one hourly? Almost like a light mover. So light A comes on at 7am and off at 8am. B comes on at 8am off at 9am. A comes back on, etc. I would save on cooling 2 lights, save on a light mover, and my bulbs would last much longer. I feel like it would be the same effect as a light mover, but I can also see it not working well. I'm just gonna have to try it for myself probably lol

Gonna get some more pics up today to show off the girls and my DIY Portable AC
 
Wondering if I should just not tuck them anymore and let them grow for those fat colas. The node spacing right now is awesome on all these plants. They're not too stretchy above the screen, just tight node spacing
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Blue Dream being monstrous like she is. Almost every one of those main branches coming off of her is 2 ft or more. You can see how much I chopped her up lol, she was so much bushier.
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This AC isn't going to cool 3 lights very well without another fan. Right now, I'm splitting one fan to pull the hot air from back of AC and cool air through lights. Besides that, I've gotta rewire it so that it will power on when it gets plugged in. So it'll work with my EVC-2. Fun stuff here.
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NEEDMMASAP

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Thanks for telling me about this thread , man your doing good , Curiosity2 really knows his stuff , I have been growing plants for over 60 years and don’t know a fraction of what you guys do I was raised an Ohio farm boy and our rule of thumb was “ if your in doubt get the manure spreader out “ always worked for us . I can see growing MM is going to be a whole new learning process , its going to be fun . I liked it where you said you’ve changed things 100 times in the last month , sounds like the way I do things .Keep up the good work .
 
And then there were 4.... We had a hermie or a male on our hands. The guy told me it was feminized bagseed, maybe they were regular seeds though. That would be kind of a relief. Anyway, I pulled that him out and chopped him down real quick lol. The first 2 pics are the BD girl. God she's such a beast. And that's after I got about 100 clones from her haha.

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NEEDMMASAP, I don't know much about growing really, this is my first time lol. But thank you for the awesome feedback. It's definitely motivation.
 
Today is week 3 of 12/12 and 2 weeks since I saw pre-flowers.

Alright, no more scrog due to the first hermie. And good thing because another one started doing it too. Got the other 1000w set up and I just LST'd them all to allow light through the entire plants. That Blue Dream spread out about 4.5x4.5 and is getting light to 80%+ nodes. I took the other 2 and put them under the cooltube. Gonna fill in the sides with some smaller clones >10". And maybe I'll have some more to throw in in a few weeks :lol:

Things seem to be moving along very nicely. I'm really not too disappointed at the 2 hermies because it made me pull down the mold trap lol. I think I should've cut a lot more of the undergrowth on that screen. Maybe they hermied because they needed space?

Anyway, I managed to get an LA Confidential cut and will soon have Flo, Flav, and AK. I took cuts from the bagseed in case they're something good but funny enough, the two I didn't take cuts from were the hermies anyway. I really want to perfect the Blue Dream though because people seem to have a hard time with it around here.

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I started running the bloom nutes last week, gonna keep running the Grow-N at a low level because a couple of them seem like they could use it. Slightly lighter leaves and the only other thing I can see is a very slight cal def on one of the bagseed which I fed to correct today.

I'm curious as to what other kind of additives I should look into. Again, I'm using Soul Synthetics Player Pack, full line.

Thanks to everyone who has posted and given some feedback. I appreciate all the responses!
 

Curiosity2

Active Member
Bump, Bump How are the plants coming along. A lot of days have passed since your last update. I think you should be about halfway to harvest, day 35 or so, right? Sorry to hear about the hermies. That's the problem with growing Bag Seed or unknown seed, it's always a mystery. Bag Seed is most always going to suck because of a high percentage chance that the seeds came from a self-pollinated plant, which is a hermie itself. What has changed in the grow room this month? Keep us updated, thanks. Plants look great in your last update. Sending good vibes your way!!!
 

Curiosity2

Active Member
Tried to ask in another thread, but has anyone ever tried running 2 1k's but switching power to each one hourly? Almost like a light mover. So light A comes on at 7am and off at 8am. B comes on at 8am off at 9am. A comes back on, etc. I would save on cooling 2 lights, save on a light mover, and my bulbs would last much longer. I feel like it would be the same effect as a light mover, but I can also see it not working well. I'm just gonna have to try it for myself probably lol

Gonna get some more pics up today to show off the girls and my DIY Portable AC
I have never tried this and never will. It seems like a really bad idea and a good way to increase your chances of a hermie. I think it would be hard on the ballast's and bulb's life span. More watts from a second bulb is always going to be better but let’s just say your coverage target area doesn't really require the extra wattage of a second bulb burning all that electricity and you only really want to shed a little more light on the outer edge of the crop, then if that is the case I would go with a light mover, it will pay for itself in many ways.

For one, besides saving on electricity, the outer edges of the crop will have bigger and better buds and the buds growing slightly underneath the others taller buds will end up being bigger in the end as well, more weight is money saved. As the light moves over the canopy, the constantly changing angles of penetration will cast new light on buds sites as opposed to some buds always sitting in the shadows of the bigger taller buds and sugar leaves.

I feel I have the Cadillac of all light movers, although pricy, it is very well made and going to last for a very very long time (that’s two VERYs); light movers are inexpensive to add to your grow room when weighing the outcome.

http://www.lightrail3.com/light-rail-5-0-commercial-drive/

For shits and giggles, Mythbusters did a show about turning lights on and off and would it use more electricity than left on. It does use more electricity as a spike at first when first powering the bulb but the energy saving from the light being off out weight the former, this is more so the case from florescent and HID bulbs compared to incandescent.
 
Finally made it back to the site. Just to give an update, I ended up with 3 of the plants in the end. Blue D and 2 others. Half p from Blue Dream and 4 zips from the other 2 together. Really bad yielders, Blue D was alright for yield. The smoke was great, bubble hash was awesome. The end.
 
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