this was said over @icmag in the growing large plants thread by a really skilled grower (rootwise) and thought id share here:
As for pruning and training, I do little to none in regards to topping or tieing. I may top one or two apical meristem of an over-zealous shoot just so I don't have one hair outta place so to speak. Plants assume the globe shape on their own people. Tieing down-- as for the branch getting "strong".....NO. It gets woody. Then it puts out less and less soft, vigorous, vegetative growth. The MORE you manipulate your plants the more you SLOW them down. Sure, those techniques are fine for the gardens I am seeing that are limited in height or space due to location but......This is the BIG plants thread, not the general outdoor grower's thread. Do you want them big? Or are you content with 5 footers that put out 3-5 units per? Ready to bust into the 7 unit and up bracket? Want to hit 10+???? Then listen up. I started my attempts with plenty of misconceptions (including topping and tieing) but I swallowed my pride and listened. And CHANGED my approach. Then tweaked it again. Then started hitting real goals. All the info you need is in this thread if you go back and do your reading people. Trying to re-invent the wheel every 10 pages on this thread does nothing but derail people from learning, which is why we're here. Stop setting yourself and others back with poor advice. There are a few key principles that will get you your success, follow them and see.....
This is coming from a positive place, it is not personal. I'm not ranting out of anger, just a little frustrated and felt the need to help re-direct some info....so don't get all ass-hurt.
Peace