you'll find that many people have maybe not particularly on this forum but there are a couple of sites that have people explaining how they take it and for how long and what extracts and what not. i am picking some up from either kt botanicals or a place called sacred seed which is 45 min away from me. ANC a member on this forum if i do recall him saying that leaf is better. bali isnt the strongest either i believe there is a 50x sold on a few sites and then there are many from thai to malaysia types of extracts as well as red vein you just have to look. As for the experience i have yet to have one but when i do i will let you know all about it and if it was any good, the strength and where i got it from. ill keep you posted.