Langbeinite...Any alternatives?

waterproof808

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Got a reply back.from "kelp4less" to ship 10lbs of neem cake and 5lbs of fulvic acid it will cost $480 lol.
FWIW, the kelp4less neem cake is pretty inferior compared to ahimsa organics that buildasoil sells. I believe you could substitute neem cake with flax meal for the N.
 

prostheticninja

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I have never used it, but I have read banana peel ash has been used for centuries as a source of potassium in the days before synthetic fertilizers. Personally, I dry banana peels in the oven, smash them up, and then put them in as an ingredient in my tea. I'm not sure if that's the best way to go about that, but I feel like, and I will probably be corrected here, organics is a bit of a guessing game. You just gotta kinda go for it.

That being said, here is a PDF of an article on the presence of potassium in banana peel ashes.
 

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ShLUbY

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I have never used it, but I have read banana peel ash has been used for centuries as a source of potassium in the days before synthetic fertilizers. Personally, I dry banana peels in the oven, smash them up, and then put them in as an ingredient in my tea. I'm not sure if that's the best way to go about that, but I feel like, and I will probably be corrected here, organics is a bit of a guessing game. You just gotta kinda go for it.

That being said, here is a PDF of an article on the presence of potassium in banana peel ashes.
yeah, you'd be getting far more of the nutrients by topdressing them as a fertilizer than making a tea out of them. another option would be to ferment them and make a liquid fertilizer, but i much prefer the topdress method, waaaaaay easier :)

and by the way, your PDF is for the peels, not for the ashes of the peels! They ground them up into a meal after drying them out. which imo, the peels are better to use than the ashes. slower release of nutrients, and food for the microorganisms in the soil.
 

prostheticninja

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yeah, you'd be getting far more of the nutrients by topdressing them as a fertilizer than making a tea out of them. another option would be to ferment them and make a liquid fertilizer, but i much prefer the topdress method, waaaaaay easier :)
Good call. I was going to start topdressing with seabird guano once my organic girls get into flower, so that will fit right in. I always forget about the topdress, probably because my soil is hidden by about two inches of hydroton bongsmilie

Whoops! Good catch. I had it labled right, but something must have clouded my recollection. Hmmm :bigjoint:

Edit: I am nearly positive that I have heard that folks have been using banana peel ash for fertilizer though, but I am also pretty sure that it was a bit salty. I could be wrong though. Makes sense to me they would just burn it, in the days before being able to throw peels in the oven, then the food processor.

I agree about the break down, and the food for organisms too. I always throw the junk solids in with my soil, and they always got that white moldy looking stuff on it within a few days.

Bananas rule. I even have a couple hanging up in my flower room right now to release ethylene to try and stop this lady who wants to be a boy too. Not in my grow room :evil:
 
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t-bot

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almost forgot, this seems like it would work. you have P components in your soil mix with the fish meal so it won't really hurt anything. I checked out their website. this blend contains all macros and micros, and is all natural. nice find :)
As general/bloom fertilizer, would this be acceptable?

NPK is 5-7-7
 

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hillbill

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Hardwood ash will be helpful for quick potassium boost as well as micronutrients. About 0-0-6 by weight. I also feed my worms bananas!
 
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